Yes, They Were Guilty. But of What Exactly? [NYT FINALLY admits Rosenbergs were guilty!]

NY Times ^ | June 15, 2003 | SAM ROBERTS

[Pharmboy]

"The Soviets did win the propaganda war," said Robert J. Lamphere, an agent for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Not too difficult when essentially all of the media were on the Russkies' side.

This story is, however, a step forward for the Paper of a [terrible] Record...

[backhoe]

The Rosenberg Case- Spies, Scapegoats, or something inbetween?

-The Old Grey Info-Slut... the NYT/Jayson Blair Affair--

[UbIwerks]

This link explains the game of chicken the Rosenbergs played with the government. The Government would not back down. If Julius Rosenberg only confessed his part, he would've only served ten years because, as the link explains, that would be how the life sentence worked out. Retrying the Rosenbergs

[backhoe]

Thanks for that very informative link.

[Pharmboy]

Thanks for filling in with this encyclopedic source for the treasonous couple...

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

The Paper of [a terrible] Record

LOL! I cleaned up the punctuation, but--LOL!

[RJL]

This story is, however, a step forward for the Paper of a [terrible] Record...

Ouch... Well said, I will use this.

[Pharmboy]

Thanks for your edit...you are correct!

[backhoe]

I was a little boy when the Rosenbergs were electrocuted, and I will never forget what my Mom
( who ended up in Army Intelligence in WWII... yeah, I know the joke! )
answered to my "why did they have to kill them, Mom?"

"Because what they did could cause millions of Americans to die..."

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Reading what Ethel Rosenberg said ....I just see her as a Susan Sarandon type. Stubborn and trying to get the gov't into martyring her for the *cause*.

Both of them (J & E) seemed to have been so enamored of their political philosophy that they would not confess their crime. According to your link, if they did they would have served and been done with it. Eisenhower and the FBI did what they could (ie, the FBI had an open 24 hr a day phone line with them).

I see this as people who are dumbly hanging onto their political philosophy at all costs. They didn't have to die. They didn't have to have their children orphaned. But they knew they would become martyrs.

So many of the left today have this same idiotic philosophy, and dare I say the muslim suicide bombers have this same philosophy in their head.

It takes brainpower to get unbrainwashed.

[jshermn]

History will show the entire truth of the Rosenbergs when all information is allowed to be released. The government had complete and factual proof that could not be shown into evidence. It was in the country's best interest that the proof was not revealed. The judge was shown the proof and hence the death sentences.

[UbIwerks]

History will show the entire truth of the Rosenbergs when all information is allowed to be released. The government had complete and factual proof that could not be shown into evidence. It was in the country's best interest that the proof was not revealed. The judge was shown the proof and hence the death sentences.

Some of the [non judicial] evidence was mentioned much earlier. When Julius Rosenberg was imprisoned he tried to enlist someone in his spyring and Ethel Rosenberg's mother complained that her daughter was "a soldier of Stalin's."

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for posting this!

[Grampa Dave]

As more data comes out, we will see how the left wing/pro communist mediots enabled the Commies to become the power that they were.

[muir_redwoods]

Many CPUSA mambers of the day dutifully reported to Moscow for execution when ordered to do so by Stalin. People all over the world were victims of the purges and show trials and did nothing to escape their fate. Such true-belivers of such a failed fantasy!

[Tacis]

"Reading what Ethel Rosenberg said ....I just see her as a Susan Sarandon type. Stubborn and trying to get the gov't into martyring her for the *cause*. "

Please don't do that! You may just have given some Hollywood commie the idea to do another ultra-left wing, extremist liberal movie dealing the "truth" about Ethel the traitor. No matter how bad such a movie is, it would certainly be nominated for an academy awrd (a show business salute to show business) as would Sue for her role as the lovely Ethel.

[headsonpikes]

"...'but I can't judge people from the 1940's', he said."

There's a confession from the heart of darkness of modern 'liberalism'; the inability to tell right from wrong.

Moral bankruptcy coupled with intellectual corruption is the hallmark of the Left.

[Steve Eisenberg]

Please don't do that! You may just have given some Hollywood commie the idea to do another ultra-left wing, extremist liberal movie dealing the "truth" about Ethel the traitor.

Maybe. The problem is that if you portray her as aware and active, she would then appear guilty of putting her country's freedom, and the lives of millions, at such grave risk that her execution was more than justified. And it you portray her as a half-aware simpleton doing a few chores for her husband, you'll be in trouble with the feminists. A no-win role for a liberal.

[Madstrider]

Reading what Ethel Rosenberg said ....I just see her as a Susan Sarandon type. Stubborn and trying to get the gov't into martyring her for the *cause*

The government indicted Ethel, hoping she'd testify against Julius, or that Julius would confess, to spare her. What the government underestimated was the depth of the Rosenbergs' commitment to Communism. Ron Radosh wrote a book about the Rosenbergs, and showed that the Rosenbergs went to their death fully conscious of their status as "martyrs" for the Communist cause.

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Here's the FBI link (with pix of the participants).

The Atom Spy Case