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Patient Hospitalized For Possible SARS Exposure Dies; Tests Come Back Negative
WRAL Raleigh, North Carolina ^ | 2003-06-13 | Reporter: Stephanie Hawco, OnLine Producers: Michelle Singer and Kamal Wallace

Posted on 06/13/2003 8:12:38 PM PDT by Lessismore

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:55:51 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. -- One of two patients being monitored in the Triangle for possible exposure to SARS died Friday. Preliminary tests from the Centers for Disease Control were negative. Meanwhile, dozens of people in the Triangle are under quarantine for possible exposure to SARS.


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KEYWORDS: americansars; canada; coronavirus; heraldwave; incubationperiod; jamesdreed; niman; northcarolina; quarantine; sars; superspreader; toronto; unc; virus
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1 posted on 06/13/2003 8:12:38 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Lessismore
Preliminary tests ... were negative.

I'll await the final tests OR the autopsy before panicing ...

2 posted on 06/13/2003 8:15:24 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Lessismore
Oh, I get it. He was exposed to SARS but had a heart condition. He had SARS symptoms, but died of his heart condition, not SARS. 1+1=3
3 posted on 06/13/2003 8:17:59 PM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: _Jim
There aren't going to be any "final tests" because there aren't any.
4 posted on 06/13/2003 8:20:15 PM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: aristeides; per loin; blam; Judith Anne; All
Ping.
5 posted on 06/13/2003 8:21:18 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Lessismore
"Results of the autopsy will not be available for several weeks."

Several weeks? Why?

6 posted on 06/13/2003 8:28:00 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
That's how long it will take most people to forget about it.
7 posted on 06/13/2003 8:29:39 PM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: IYAAYAS
There aren't going to be any "final tests" because there aren't any.

DID I not say 'OR an autopsy'?

Are you just waking up this evening?

8 posted on 06/13/2003 8:30:46 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: IYAAYAS
That's how long it will take most people to forget about it.

"Overly cynical"

9 posted on 06/13/2003 8:32:51 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: blam
Several weeks? Why?

Call 'em up and ask them what the usual period is to get the results back from an autopsy ...

Wanna bet that there are certain lab tests they havce to send out and then wait on?

10 posted on 06/13/2003 8:34:57 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: _Jim
If you know of a SARS test would you be so kind as to provide a link?
As far as I know SARS can only be diagnosed by the presented symptoms and a known contact. This person seemed to have both.
11 posted on 06/13/2003 8:39:31 PM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: IYAAYAS
SARS diagnostic tests links.

There are three different tests. If he died before his body made antibodies, it may be difficult to get a good test result.

12 posted on 06/13/2003 10:22:46 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: IYAAYAS
SARS is Severe Acute Respitory Syndrome. The key word is Acute, which means a sudden onset.

Also, an autopsy may be positive for viral or bacterial pneumonia or for influenza, which would rule out SARS.
13 posted on 06/13/2003 10:27:24 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: Constitution Day; mykdsmom; Howlin; Freedom'sWorthIt
fyi
14 posted on 06/13/2003 10:31:06 PM PDT by kayak (Do not bet against the success of freedom. - GWB 5/9/03)
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To: blam
Autopsy tests take several weeks because cultures have to grow and because detailed tissue studies must be performed. Four to six weeks is normal for thorough testing. They will do every test known to man in the hopes of finding something other than SARS. IMHO.
15 posted on 06/13/2003 10:40:09 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: Lessismore; blam; Judith Anne; jonathonandjennifer; Mr. Mulliner; Prince Charles; Dog Gone; ...
HOLY COW! The USA's FIRST SARS DEATH!!!

I wonder how long it will take the CDC to classify it as a 'probable' case?

This was really bad... If I recall correctly, there was only very casual contact from the N.C. man and an ASYMPTOMATIC SARS case in Toronto, and when he returned he was still ASYMPTOMATIC when he went to work.

And isn't it true, there was NO contact between the Toronto traveller and his co-worker that died? ... That they simply shared the same workspace at different times? I'm sure we will hear all the gory details soon.

16 posted on 06/13/2003 11:36:16 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
"I wonder how long it will take the CDC to classify it as a 'probable' case?"

With their usual efficiency, about 3 months.

Really too bad about the person who died.

This kind of thing brings home, what a lot of people don't like to think about that it CAN and DOES happen here too.
17 posted on 06/13/2003 11:39:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FL_engineer
While I agree with most of your post I do have one disagreement.

I'm sure we will hear all the gory details soon.

I do not share your confidence that the public health authorities in the USA will release this information in a timely manner.

18 posted on 06/14/2003 5:06:48 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: FL_engineer
There are a couple of points in the article woth highlighting.

Officials say the deceased was in the workplace with the original confirmed case; however, the confirmed did not have any SARS symptoms during that time.

In order to confirm there were NO symptoms medical personel would have had to be monitoring the original confirmed case while he was working normally in the building. Most people do not go to a doctor at the very first sign of a general malaise. Most people do not take their temperature every hour. How can anyone say the patient had NO symptoms at his workplace. further there is no proof that Asymptomatic infection is impossible with SARS. Further there is proof that the SARS virus can exist for a period of time on metal, wood, plastic and glass. Since the person was working in an office one may presume some of these materials were present.

Health care workers at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill are trying to ease people's fears about SARS. Workers were screened by health care workers Friday after a contractor in the building where they work was diagnosed with SARS.

Be calm no need to panic we have the situation under control. Never mindhow we have the situation uncer control just don't worry be happy.

The screenings took place under tents in a parking lot located near Horace Williams Airport. The tents were shielded by black tarp to protect the privacy of the employees and their family members.

The reason for the protection of the privacy is so that if someone does not follow recommended procedures for quarantine no one they come in contact will know and could be more subject to exposure?

By 5 p.m. Friday, 36 people took advantage of the screenings. Despite their concerns, the doctor running the screenings said he has not seen anything that looks like an active SARS case. Given the fact that we are dealing with incubation periods why is this fact significant?

"We're seeing some patients who have symptoms that worry (about) them and it is our job to reassure those patients that we can (treat them). And the other people who need more testing, we're referring them on," said Dr. James Larson.

Well the symptoms worry you don't worry we can treat you. What they do not say is there is no guarantee that if you do have SARS the treatment will do any good. Don't worry be happy. These statements by the medical personel may come back to bite them. If because I relied on their assurances I lost a member of my family to SARS there would be hell to pay.

Larson, who treated the Orange County SARS patient, said the health care workers are wearing face masks only when in a closed, confined space with those being screened. He also told WRAL the 10-day incubation period is over, but health care workers and others who were in contact with the man will continue to be monitored.

My question here is does this conform to the proper protocols in dealing with SARS. What if there is an undiagnosed case out there they do not know about. I note Toronto is still dealing with their current outbreak and there are a lot of questions about where teh index case for this outbreak was exposed.

UNC officials sent thermometers home with all employees to monitor their temperatures. Employees want the building scrubbed down, but UNC officials say they have been told by the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention that there is no need to do that.

Scrubbing the building down seems like a reasonable hygenic measure n this case given the unknowns. No it is not proven there is a "need" for that measure yet but dismissing the measure on the basis of a need not yet having been proven does not make sense when there iis data that suggest there may be some benefit from doing this.

19 posted on 06/14/2003 5:37:42 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: FL_engineer
Well, FL, we have to keep our "verify, then trust" caps on real tight now.

It is possible that this is an unfortunate coincidence, and given the heightened concern about SARS, they do not want all of the tri-county area assuming that every runny nose, allerigic cough, etc. is SARS.

Can you imagine the impact on the health facilities in the area if they concluded it was SARS right out of the box? I think the key thing to watch is if others become suspiciously ill. We need some numbers of suspect cases, similar to Toronto before we conclude anything.

We need some freeper close to the location who knows how to monitor the situation regarding pneumonia hospitalizations, expanding numbers of quarantined people, etc. That will give us more subjective information on how contagious this really is.

The CDC may not release the information to us, the stupid and easily panicked flock of sheep, but you can bet your lil patootie that they are worried as all heck, and are watching this like a hawk!
20 posted on 06/14/2003 5:38:56 AM PDT by jacquej
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