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Home-schooling standoff (MA Liberals try to get state custody for 'abused' home-schooled kids)
Metrowest Daily ^ | 6/13/03 | Beecher

Posted on 06/13/2003 12:26:29 PM PDT by pabianice

"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do!"

WALTHAM, MA -- A legal battle over two home-schooled children exploded into a seven-hour standoff yesterday, when they refused to take a standardized test ordered by the Department of Social Services.

George Nicholas Bryant, 15, and Nyssa Bryant, 13, stood behind their parents, Kim and George, as police and DSS workers attempted to collect the children at 7:45 a.m. DSS demanded that the two complete a test to determine their educational level.

After a court order was issued by Framingham Juvenile Court around 1 p.m., the children were driven by their parents to a Waltham hotel.

Again, they refused to take the test.

"The court order said that the children must be here. It said nothing about taking the test," said George Bryant.

The second refusal came after an emotion-filled morning for the family, when DSS workers sternly demanded the Bryants comply with their orders.

"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do."

Four police officers were also at the scene and attempted to coax the Bryants to listen to the DSS worker.

"We are simply here to prevent a breach of the peace," said Waltham Youth Officer Detective James Auld. "We will will not physically remove the children."

Yesterday's events are the continuation of a six-year legal battle between the family and Waltham Public Schools and the state.

The Bryants contend that the city and state do not have the legal right to force their children to take standardized tests, even though DSS workers have threatened to take their children from them.

"There have been threats all along. Most families fall to that bullying by the state and the legal system," said George Bryant.

"But this has been a six-year battle between the Waltham Public Schools and our family over who is in control of the education of our children," Bryant continued. "In the end the law of this state will protect us."

The Bryant children have never attended public school.

Both sides agree that the children are in no way abused mentally, physically, sexually or emotionally, but legal custody of the children was taken from Kim and George Bryant in December 2001. The children will remain under the legal custody of DSS until their 16th birthdays.

The parents have been ruled as unfit because they did not file educational plans or determine a grading system for the children, two criteria of Waltham Public School's home schooling policy.

"We do not believe in assessing our children based on a number or letter. Their education process is their personal intellectual property," said Bryant.

George Bryant said he was arrested six years ago, after not attending a meeting that the city contends he was summoned to. The meeting was called by the Waltham School Department for his failure to send his children to school.

"We want these issues aired in the open, in public. The school system and DSS have fought to keep this behind closed doors," said Bryant.

Superintendent of Schools Susan Parrella said she was unaware of yesterday's incident and that, currently the school department approves of the education plan filed by DSS for the Bryant children.

"An acceptable home school plan is in place right now," said Parrella. "I was not aware of any testing occurring today."

The Bryant children freely admit that they have no intention of taking a test.

"We don't want to take the test. We have taken them before and I don't think they are a fair assessment of what we know," said Nyssa Bryant. "And no one from DSS has ever asked us what we think."

Kenneth Pontes, area director of DSS, denied that workers have never talked to the children privately, but admitted that this type of case isn't often seen by his office.

"This is an unusual case. Different school systems require different regulations for home-schooled children. Waltham requires testing," said Pontes.

Pontes said that a possibility exists that the children will be removed from their home, but that was a last course of action.

"No one wants these children to be put in foster homes. The best course of action would for (the Bryants) to instruct the children to take the test," said Etscovitz.

The Bryant family is due in Framingham District Court this morning, to go before a juvenile court judge. According to DSS, this session will determine what their next course of action will be and if the children will be removed from the Bryants' home.

"These are our children and they have and always will be willing participants in their education," said Kim Bryant.


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To: CyberCowboy777
Indeed it is tyranny. Does Ms. Escovitz even hear her own words, or realize what a monster she's become?
401 posted on 06/18/2003 12:21:52 PM PDT by jejones
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To: CyberCowboy777
Waltham parents' hearing benched: Homeschooled kids stay put ***"The number one guidance that the DOE provides is for parents to get their curriculum approved by the school committee in the district," said Heidi Perlman, spokeswoman for the DOE. "The school committee must approve the curriculum before it is deemed as acceptable."

……….The parents have been ruled unfit because they did not file educational plans or determine a grading system for the children, two criteria of Waltham's homeschooling policy.***

It looks like no one is going to back down. If they take the kids, this will blow up in the state's face.

402 posted on 06/18/2003 12:22:18 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: jejones
By some it is 'right' to take freedom for ones own good.

It is better for community if the children are tested and the community has more rights than the individual I guess.
403 posted on 06/18/2003 12:24:14 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The state cannot back down! What impertinence! To think that a parent may know better than the state, why the state has 'experts'.


The state is going to flex it's muscles and if this gets to a higher court the state will be handed it's hat.

Unless the state can prove harm in fact, it has no place in these parents face. The state cannot require reading of it's citizens, it cannot require a specified educational track. It only is admonish to promote education for all, not to FORCE it.
404 posted on 06/18/2003 12:29:44 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: CyberCowboy777; All
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405 posted on 06/18/2003 12:34:08 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All
Homeschool Buzz about this.
406 posted on 06/18/2003 12:37:00 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Nightshift
ping and bookmark
407 posted on 06/18/2003 12:37:21 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: CyberCowboy777
You are ignoring the fact that the state has custody (right or wrong) of these kids. Unless a higher court can show that granting that custody was flawed, the state can now dictate what kind of education they get. The state has already won the first battle getting a court to give it custody. That's why I believe the parents went too far in this case. If that hadn't happened, the state wouldn't be FORCING education on the family. So the issue here is whether the state should have custody and not whether it should be dictating, or FORCING education on them.
408 posted on 06/18/2003 12:40:39 PM PDT by ConstitutionLover
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To: ConstitutionLover
The State cannot FORCE education, some weird "educational neglect" custody or not.

I think the state will back way down. They do not want this thing to go to a higher court. If it did the concept of "educational neglect" based on arbitrary standards and legal custody on that sole count will be found unconstitutional.

409 posted on 06/18/2003 12:46:23 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
I'd like to see public education hauled before a court for fraud, neglect and impersonating a provider of education. Think of all the minds that have been left empty, all the lives that have been shortchanged.
410 posted on 06/18/2003 1:18:18 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; ConstitutionLover
The judge granted custody of the children based upon 'educational neglect'.

I submit that I can prove 'educational neglect' in the case of at least 50% of the kids in Public Schools.

What would the judge do with that?
411 posted on 06/18/2003 1:38:00 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: pabianice
While I agree that the DSS is way out of bounds and the parents are probably taking the right stand....

What is with all the posts about how "normal" the family looks? Are you not succumbing to the same fallacy the DSS has by using that as a criteria. So who decides what a "normal" looking family is? Did you expect them to look like backwoods hicks? What if they were wearing overalls and no shoes? What if they were black or hispanic or whatever?

At least stay consistent with your own logic. If we are fighting for the parents right to keep control, then so be it. If you are merely fighting for your version of normal over the DSS then use your franchise to vote in a new DSS official!

Peace out...
412 posted on 06/23/2003 3:59:22 PM PDT by joe2994 ("I don't friggin know")
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