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Sayonara, Good Ol' Nascar?
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 | HOLMAN W. JENKINS, JR.

Posted on 06/11/2003 6:42:27 AM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:49:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Red states have their media preoccupations too, and last week it wasn't Martha Stewart or the ousting of the New York Times editorial management. It was Dodge's lawsuit against Bill Davis Racing.

The casus belli seems to have been the following: Mr. Davis, a journeyman team owner, had detailed a few of his people to help Toyota, the first Japanese entrant ever, prepare for its coming debut in Nascar's Craftsman racing series, in which race cars pretending to be pickup trucks run in circles at high speeds.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Arkansas; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Nevada; US: New Hampshire; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: in; nascar; princeton; redzone; tundra

1 posted on 06/11/2003 6:42:27 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Funny. It's an interesting article about the only sport that I watch, and yet I'm realy not sure what point the author is trying to make.
2 posted on 06/11/2003 6:47:58 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
and yet I'm realy not sure what point the author is trying to make

Ditto

3 posted on 06/11/2003 6:51:03 AM PDT by darkwing104
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To: presidio9
The author doesn't know jack about NASCAR
4 posted on 06/11/2003 6:51:29 AM PDT by MJY1288 (I don't know if the WMD's exist, And you don't know they don't)
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To: Rodney King
Personally, I was confused by its appearance on the Wall Street Journal's editorial page. But, since it's about NASCAR, I had no choice but to post it.
5 posted on 06/11/2003 6:52:40 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: Rodney King
...what point the author is trying to make.

Hillbillies racing around in circles want American cars for now, and Dodge wants to keep it that way?

6 posted on 06/11/2003 6:56:31 AM PDT by Lysander (My army can kill your army)
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To: presidio9

7 posted on 06/11/2003 6:57:12 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Private 1st Class - 101st Viking Kitty.....Valhalla.....All the Way!)
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To: darkwing104
Ditto

Ditto.

Though I suspect it was an excuse to use the word "jingo". Apparently there's nothing worse than someone who buys American.

8 posted on 06/11/2003 7:32:46 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I barbeque with Sweet Baby Ray's)
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To: presidio9
What we want, are reasons, conclusions, and answers to questions. I got none of the above.
9 posted on 06/11/2003 7:36:01 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: presidio9
The pursuit of marginal advantage through aerodynamics has already made racing not only more expensive but also more boring. Usually submissive racers like Jeff Gordon and Rusty Wallace have become loud in their complaints that cars can only pass each other in the pits because the increasing reliance on downforce (which is disrupted when a car pulls up close behind another) makes it impossible to pass on the track.

If it's of only marginal advantage, then why are Gordon and Wallace complaining so loudly about not being able to pass?

10 posted on 06/11/2003 7:39:11 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: freedomcrusader
Usually submissive racers like Jeff Gordon and Rusty Wallace have become loud in their complaints that cars can only pass each other in the pits because the increasing reliance on downforce (which is disrupted when a car pulls up close behind another) makes it impossible to pass on the track.

This "impossible" feat happens hundreds, thousands of times every race. Seems pretty possible to me.

11 posted on 06/11/2003 8:04:43 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I barbeque with Sweet Baby Ray's)
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To: presidio9
…"the UPS Ford Taurus was the best car on the track today."

Nobody has been able to say that for a while.

I’ve been a little confused about Toyota though. I saw a book once that listed a bunch of NASCAR specifications. It might have been specific to Winston Cup cars… Anyway, they literally specified Ford and Chevrolet casting numbers that were required to be stamped on the heads you used. Same for blocks. They specified everything you can imagine.

I’m wondering how they’re going to go about including Toyota. For one thing I don’t think Toyota makes a V8 that can be used. I seem to remember that at one time there was talk of a 4.7L V8 for the Land Cruiser, but I also seem to remember that it was going to be one of those 32 valve multi-overhead cam deals. I didn’t think NASCAR allowed that – just pushrod-type engines. Not that it matters. I suppose Toyota racing can make whatever they need to meet specifications.

12 posted on 06/11/2003 8:20:35 AM PDT by thatsnotnice
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To: JohnnyZ
This "impossible" feat happens hundreds, thousands of times every race. Seems pretty possible to me.

LOL! I agree with you, but according to the article, Gordon and Wallace do not.

13 posted on 06/11/2003 8:37:46 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: presidio9
For me NASCAR went bye-bye when they gave the first check to Jesse Jackson. Haven't watched it since.
14 posted on 06/11/2003 10:13:31 AM PDT by day10 (Homeschool Rocks! Spare your children the misery of the public school system.)
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To: presidio9
People pay money to watch other people drive cars?
15 posted on 06/11/2003 10:15:45 AM PDT by dead
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To: JohnnyZ
Apparently there's nothing worse than someone who buys American.

My Toyota is almost certainly more American-made than your Ford or Chevy, which have significant parts of their manufacture done in Canada and Mexico...

16 posted on 06/11/2003 10:20:20 AM PDT by kevkrom (Dump the income tax -- support an NRST!)
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To: kevkrom
My Toyota is almost certainly more American-made than your Ford or Chevy

Mazda.

17 posted on 06/11/2003 10:34:19 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (I barbeque with Sweet Baby Ray's)
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To: All
Dodge isn't even and American company now.
18 posted on 06/11/2003 10:41:02 AM PDT by dis.kevin
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To: kevkrom
I know for a fact that Toyota did a survey, nationwide, about how NASCAR fans would react to their entering AUTO races...not just the Craftsmen series.
19 posted on 06/11/2003 7:49:33 PM PDT by crazykatz
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