Posted on 06/08/2003 8:38:06 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
The homosexual historical footprint is large when it comes to the rape and murder of children. The most notorious child killer might be Gilles de Rais (Bluebeard), remembered for raping, torturing, and killing perhaps 800 boys in 15th century France. Gilles often raped the boy as he hung from a hook by the neck. Before he died, Gilles took him down, comforted him, repeated the act and either killed him himself or had him slain. In his confession, Gilles testified that when the children were dead he kissed them and those who had the most handsome limbs and heads he held up to admire them, and had their bodies cut open and took delight at the sight of their inner organs; and very often when the said children were dying he sat on their stomachs and took pleasure in seeing them die and laughed...
At the turn of the 19th century, hobos or bums in the U.S. were often driven from towns because it was believed that they were responsible for raping and killing boys. Even the murder of a boy by homosexual lovers Leopold and Loeb in 1924, then called the crime of the century, likely involved rape. As of July 23, 2001, the Associated Press list of the worst serial killers in the United States was topped by Donald Harvey, followed by John Wayne Gacy, Patrick Kearney, Bruce Davis and Dean Corll in descending number of victims (www.crimelibrary.com). All these perpetrators of serial crimes in the 1970s and 1980s engaged in homosexuality, and the majority of the victims for the last four killers were boys.
Nevertheless, girls get raped and murdered too. Homosexual activists would have us believe that heterosexual abductions are far more common than homosexual child molestations. Perhaps our society has been so slanted against homosexuality that homosexuals are themselves victims of biased historical reporting. If so, what is the situation today? With our modern professional class Ñ including the media Ñ generally in favor of gay rights, it would seem likely that there ought to be minimal reporting bias against homosexuals in the coverage of child molestation cases. So the question remains: are those who engage in homosexuality disproportionately apt to engage in the rape and murder of children?
What We Did
Lexis-Nexis Academic Universe, an on-line search service, scans the whole text of over 50 English regional and national newspapers, largely in the U.S., but also including major papers in Australia, England, Canada, and New Zealand (e.g., the Baltimore Sun, Boston Globe, Independent [London], Ottawa Citizen, etc.). For 1989 through 2002 inclusive, every news story that included child molestation was examined Ñ a total of 6,444 stories which, after eliminating repeat stories about the same cases, reduced to 1,914 unique child molestation events. The 6,444 story database was double-checked by running murder and killed against it. Only news stories were tallied, not editorials or opinion pieces, so these were stories of fairly recent events.
What We Found
One hundred and three news stories involved the rape and/or murder of children: 90 involved the molestation and murder of a child or children, 11 stories involved only the abduction and rape of children, and two the rape and mutilation, but not the murder, of the children involved. Of the 90 news stories where the child was raped and murdered (0.47% of the unique child molestation stories), 40% involved homosexual molestation.
In the most unusual case, an educated and relatively wealthy leader recruited two other men and a boy. This team raped and murdered precisely 100 boys1. The leader had had prior arrests for suspicion of sodomizing boys, but his social status kept him from being convicted for many years. In another case, a man molested and killed 9 children of unreported sex.
Of the 95 perpetrators in these 90 stories, at least 43% engaged in homosexuality. These included 39 men, a boy, and a woman who all engaged in homosexuality, and 47 men and 7 boys who engaged in heterosexuality with victims. Of the 217 victims, at least 68% were victimized by homosexual perpetrators, and at least 67% were boys. Boys were also mutilated in the two stories involving mutilation. Furthermore, both multiple perpetrators and multiple victims were associated with homosexuality. In the three stories where two or more killers were implicated, the rapes were homosexual. In 69% of the 13 stories involving more than one victim, the perpetrator engaged in homosexuality. Another 11 stories involved a charge of attempted murder. In 64% of those cases, the perpetrator engaged in homosexuality.
When all other cases of child molestation from the Lexis-Nexis search are added to these stories, there were 2,181 perpetrators in the 1,914 distinct events whose sexual proclivities could be characterized by the sex of their victim: 41% engaged in sex with their own sex, the remaining 59% with the opposite sex (another 118 perpetrators violated at least 190 children whose sex was not given). Of the 5,630 underage victims of these molestations, 61% were victimized by individuals who engaged in homosexuality. And those who performed homosexual seductions were quite one-sided: 3,386 of their victims were boys, only 60 were girls.
Overall, there was a slightly higher rate of homosexuality among perpetrators who raped and killed than among those who merely raped or molested (43% vs. 41%). In addition, the proportion of victims attributed to homosexual perpetrators who raped and murdered was higher than the proportion attributed to homosexuals who only raped or molested (68% vs. 61%). All of the cases involving eating or torturing the victim were committed by homosexual practitioners.
What the Findings Mean
The newspapers indexed by Academic Universe undoubtedly concentrate upon events that occur in urban areas. Nonetheless, since the rape and murder of a child is of such widespread interest, a considerable proportion of such events outside of urban areas were probably also cited in these newspapers. It may even be true that the proportions of perpetrators and victims in this sample are roughly representative of what has recently happened in the industrialized world. Contrary to the claims of homosexual activists, history seems to have repeated itself. The past 14 years give every indication that those who engage in homosexuality are still disproportionately involved in the rapes and murders of children. Likewise, the few instances of mutilation also implicated homosexuals. The historical record disproportionately implicating homosexuals in the rape, torture, and murder of children appears to be in harmony with more recent events.
Murder and child molestation combine in the rape and murder of a child. These two social problems are also independently associated with those who engage in homosexuality. Blanchard, Barbaree, Bogaert, Dicky, Klassen, Kuban, and Zucker, working with male offenders, concluded in 2000 that2 the best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer menÉ; in contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys.... Thus the rate of homosexual attraction is 6-20 times higher among pedophiles [those who have sex with children under the age of 12 yr.] (p. 464).
Likewise, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual III-R (DSM III-R, 1987)3 of the American Psychiatric Association, summarizing the clinical material about men, states that Attraction to girls [aged 13 yr. or younger] is apparently twice as common as attraction to boys and notes that the course is usually chronic, especially in those attracted to boys.... The recidivism rate for people with Pedophilia involving a preference for the same sex is roughly twice that of those who prefer the opposite sex (pp. 284-5).
Both of these sources estimated that about a third of child molesters engage in homosexuality Ñ similar to the 41% of male perpetrators who only raped the underage in the newspaper database. In other studies4, it has also been found that male perpetrators who engage in homosexuality claim larger numbers of rape victims than non-homosexual rapists. For instance, 84% of the 28,574 children under the age of 14 who were raped in Abel, et al. were victimized by homosexuals. Also, the higher rates of recidivism by homosexuals noted in the DSM would imply more victims too.
In line with these reports, of the 217 victims in the 90 murder and rape stories, at least 68% were victimized by homosexual perpetrators. This 68% falls between the estimate that roughly equal numbers of girls and boys, each year fall victim to some form of sexual exploitation cited in a recent National Association of Social Workers review of a large set of studies of child molestation5 and the 84% reported by Abel, et al.
Murder also appears to be disproportionately associated with homosexuality. Jim Warren did the intake interview for almost all younger murderers (i.e., those under age 36) at the Washington State Corrections Center from 1971-82. In an interview in 1994, Warren opined that he was probably the only one who examined the entirety of each of their case files. Warren said that he was struck with how frequently homosexuality turned up in the cases. Starting with a trickle of 2 or 3 murders/year in 1972 until dozens/year by the early 1980s, he noted a recurrent pattern: Although the motive listed in the report was often robbery or theft, he said that about 50% of the time it was associated with homosexuality. Typically, he said, a homosexual would meet someone at a bar or park and invite him to his home. Eventually, an argument would ensue and he or his visitor would be dead.
In Amsterdam, police spokesmen have stated that in one out of four of all murder cases the victim was homosexual (quoted by Gemert, 1994, p. 150)6. Gemert opined that [e]lderly homosexual men often dont have much to do in daily life. When they know that they will be unwanted in the gay world in the future, they will... seek this form of excitement. Visiting Central Station and hunting boys is very important to them (p. 172). Gemert thus offers a theory about the linkage between child molestation, murder and homosexuality Ñ albeit, one that accounts for the high rate at which homosexuals are murdered by boys, not why they in turn disproportionately rape and murder boys.
Although murder and rape of children are not common events, they are extremely frightening and can greatly impact the communities in which they occur. As its most precious resource, our society takes great pains to protect children and to ensure their safety. Amazingly, our society is also at the vanguard of the pro-gay rights movement. But consider: a group constituting perhaps 1% to 5% of men (1.3% in the 1996 National Household Survey of Drug Abuse; higher in Black, et al.7, Anderson & Stall8, and Cameron & Cameron9) generated 43% of those who were recorded in the most recent 14 years of news stories as having raped and killed children. That this group also accounts for around a third of child molesters, commits between a third to two-thirds of child rapes, and may be involved in up to half of all murders, adds substance to the traditional belief that participation in homosexual activity is anti-social.
References:
1. Popham, P. (2000) Child killer sentenced to be throttled, cut up and immersed in an acid bath. Independent [London, England] 3/17/00.
2. Blanchard, R., Barbaree, H. E., Bogaert, A. F., Dicky, R., Klassen, P., Kuban, M. E., Zucker, K. J. (2000) Fraternal birth order and sexual orientation in pedophiles. Archives of Sexual Behavior 29, 463-478.
3. American Psychiatric Association. (1987) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual III-R. Washington, D.C.
4. Abel, G. G., Becker, J. V., Mittelman, M., Cunningham-Rathner, J., Bouleau, J. L., & Murphy, W. D. (1987) Self-reported sex crimes of nonincarcerated paraphiliacs. Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 2 (1), 3-25.
5. Houston Chronicle (9/26/01) Define child sex abuse to combat problem. Editorial.
6. Gemert, F. van. (1994) Chicken kills hawk: gay murders during the eighties in Amsterdam. Journal of Homosexuality. 26(4), 149-174.
7. Black, D., Gates, G., Sanders, S. & Taylor, L. (2000) Demographics of the gay and lesbian population in the United States: evidence from available systematic data sources. Demography. 37, 139-154.
8. Anderson, J. E. & Stall, R. (2002) Increased reporting of male-to-male sexual activity in a national survey. Sexually Transmitted Diseases, 29, 643-646.
9. Cameron, P. & Cameron, K. (2002) What proportion of heterosexuals is ex-homosexual? Psychological Reports 91, 1087-1097.
I think the dentist hit a nerve.
Better put some ice on that tooth.
You say homosexuals are rapist because they are pathological. How did those who don't rape kids avoid the pathology. Why do men commit murder so disproportionately and why don't you think it's pathological. Why are your kids safer around men than homosexuals? It's your problem to explain your follishness, not mine. Research yourself!
Your ideas are contrary to everything we believe in the US. People are to be treated as individuals and are responsible for their own behavior. You paint several million people with your rapist brush because they have a higher rate of rape. A rate you can't verify because so many incidents are unreported. And you refuse to paint murderes with a broad brush. This is indicative of your pathological drive to excoriate homosexuals on a daily basis here. You and your fellow travellers.
You can't answer these problems with your logic, because your position is illogical. As long as the owner allows your kind of attack on these people, at least you'll have a hobby.
So youre really sticking with the silly notion that by virtue of being a man causes one to murder? Hehehe someone already pointed out that bipeds are responsible for most murders, its the same lame logic you use, should we looking at bipeds too? Look, I asked for a research study for proof of your ridiculous reasoning, where is it? Im NOT the one contending being a man causes one to murder, hehehe, YOU ARE, why do I have to prove your low I.Q. assertion?
How did those who don't rape kids avoid the pathology.
Here let me help you make sense of you incoherence, you meant how do those with homosexual pathology avoid rape? Because all behavior is chosen and even though some behviors influence other behaviors it is not the sole determining factor.
Why do men commit murder so disproportionately and why don't you think it's pathological
Because I didnt say such a silly thing, you did. I do think murder, my personal opinion, is pathological but being a man does not cause the pathology. Again if have any proof that it does please enlighten us.
Why are your kids safer around men than homosexuals? It's your problem to explain your follishness, not mine. Research yourself!
Garbage in garbage out, I did not make the false premise that being a man influences one to murder, YOU DID. But youre amusing to keep trying to make that assertion.
You paint several million people with your rapist brush because they have a higher rate of rape.
Nazis had a higher rate to murder so dont paint them with your murder brush.
A rate you can't verify because so many incidents are unreported.
Thats not how statistical analysis works, a reasonable search for a random sample was made, anything unreported for that time period is not going to skew the findings.
This is indicative of your pathological drive to excoriate homosexuals on a daily basis here. You and your fellow travellers.
Your libel and slander aside what is my pathology? Just curious.
Not really, I dont worry about drug users having a better time than me either while still wanting their behavior not to influence our society. B+ for the homosexual propaganda talking points though.
You don't answer the charges about your "strategy" against homosexuals. You can't answer about individual responsibility because your argumnent is not based upon conservatism or any american ideal for that matter.
Since most of them don't rape kids, perhaps you'll hold them up as role models on how to avoid inherent pathology.
You are ridiculous. Take the last word. I only continued the thread so that you and your ilk can be exposed.
Youre a hypocrite, do you say those who speak out against drug use, incest, euthanasia, atheism, abortion et al negative influences on society as being a fixation??? Of course you dont because you are a fraud and a charlatan.
Trace
Not me, a research study links the influence homosexual pathology has on rape and murder.
but being a man doesn't cause them to murder.
Correct but were waiting, (snickering) for you to proffer some research that proves your hysterical claim.
Since women commit such a small % of murders, you have the proof problem. You see women are also bipeds, so your argument is absurd.
But by your logic that doesnt matter, were changing the criteria like you did, bipeds vs. non-bipeds commit most of the murders so we should be scared of bipeds, right?
Try using logic and you will realize your problem.
No I moved the goal posts just like you did, what you dont like that?
But you won't because there is something inside of you that obssess about these people. Perhaps your mother was scared by a homosexual when she was pregnant.
Is that your official psychoanalysis Hehehe let me try. Youre a homosexual apologist because you have deep seeded latent tendencies, which you are in denial of. Am I close?
You don't answer the charges about your "strategy" against homosexuals.
Ive answered everyone, what I cant answer is your assertion that men murder because they are men, I dont make such an idiotic claim, YOU DO.
You can't answer about individual responsibility because your argumnent is not based upon conservatism or any american ideal for that matter.
I didnt say homosexuals have no choice, the study doesnt make that claim either. Theres a link to the influence from the pathology, of course homosexuals are responsible for their decisions but that doesnt mean the link isnt there.
I agree. But while you and I believe that child molestation - regardless of the who the perpetrator is - is a heinous crime... there are plenty of people who believe it is "more" heinous if it is homosexual molestation. Go figure.
Of course. I was only trying to point out that the "study" itself wasn't very scientific, nor could it ever be, because of so many unreported cases of family or friend molestation (whether to boys or girls). So we don't really know if same-sex child molestation is more or less prevalent than opposite-sex child molestation.
I went to sleep last night thinking of ways to survey young children about this. I really believe that child molestation is waaaaay underreported (whether homo or hetero), and that far too many people are getting away with it... and the damage to the children is something that the child and society will have to deal with for the rest of their lives.
Unfortunately, this is true about almost EVERY media report on EVERY subject. :-(
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