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Marie Antoinette II - Why is Martha Stewart Being Singled Out? Is it Because She's Civilized?
Comte De Maistre
Posted on 06/05/2003 7:35:20 PM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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Okay, I wanted to stir up folks a little bit.
I suppose some will argue that the Aristocracy is a European anachronism, and that America was founded on egalitarian ideals. But although the founding fathers opposed the rule of King George III, they were not egalitarians by any stretch of the imagination. That is why they limited the right to vote to those who had property.
Thomas Jefferson opposed a hereditary aristocracy, but believed in a natural aristocracy, in which people rose to the top based on their "virtues" and "talents". Jefferson was America's Renaissance Man, and he is the most refined and cultured man this nation has ever produced. When Jefferson served as American ambassador to France, he was revered in the Royal Court of King Louis XVI. That was back in the days when France was a highly civilized nation, and not the trashy country it is today.
And I'll bet that Jefferson would have been thrilled to have Martha decorate Monticello, at the time it was built.
To: ComtedeMaistre
Because she's a liar and a crook?
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:39:13 PM PDT
by
annyokie
(provacative yet educational reading alert)
To: ComtedeMaistre
Though I may argue with you and the SEC over "insider trading" laws, Stewart is a Clintonite.
To: annyokie
Because she's a liar and a crook?Absolutely!
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:43:40 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
To: ComtedeMaistre
I'm sorry, Martha Stewart is NOT graceful or elegant.
You want grace and elegance - Barbara Bush, Laura Bush and other women of their ilk. They have class. Martha - don't get me started.
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:43:49 PM PDT
by
Desdemona
To: ComtedeMaistre
Martha is hated because she occuppies the highest plane of civilized standards known to man today.Any woman who makes a Christmas wreath from egg shells is hardly on the "highest plane of civilized standards".
To: ComtedeMaistre
The real questionis will she be let off because she is rich and famous. If she lied to the FBI and other authorities then she should pay the price. The law applies to everone.
To: PhiKapMom
No lie! I look forward to her designing new uniforms, cell decore, and meal-preporation at Allenwood.
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:46:54 PM PDT
by
annyokie
(provacative yet educational reading alert)
To: ComtedeMaistre
It's karmic: A Clinton supporter.
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:48:28 PM PDT
by
Cedric
To: ComtedeMaistre
To quote a great freeper, "Can't do the time, don't do the crime" (thanks Uncle George)
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:49:09 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
To: ComtedeMaistre
ImClone stock was up 40% after today's close. It is now above $40 per share and up over 400% this year! Martha sold it around $70. By the time she comes to trial the stock will easily be back to that. Their cancer drug is HUGE. The government is idiotic for charging her, although she did not help matters by her actions.
There is NOTHING wrong with what she did, only with how she dealth with it. She should have been honest and asked: "should I have just taken the loss despite the info? Would anyone have done so"? It is absurd to charge a recipient of information with insider trading.
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To: ComtedeMaistre
And don't worry, Martha Stewart isn't the first or the last to be 'singled out'. Sign up for the SEC Newsletter. They have only just begun.
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:50:56 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
To: annyokie
Martha reminds me of Leona Hemsley, "The Queen of Mean"
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:50:58 PM PDT
by
apackof2
(If posted my comment would look like this)
To: ComtedeMaistre
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:51:41 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
To: annyokie
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:52:12 PM PDT
by
4mycountry
(One taquila, two taquila, three taquila, floor.)
To: ComtedeMaistre
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:52:22 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
To: ComtedeMaistre
she represents highest symbolic elements of Western Civilization - culture, refinement, success, beauty, capitalism, hard work, efficiency, elegance, intelligence, organization, near-perfection, etc. Yes, and my, doesn't she know it.
Martha makes most people feel inferior.
I suspect she makes most people feel irritated; there are many ways to be excellent, not just Martha's Way.
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:52:47 PM PDT
by
Grut
To: Calpernia
LOL!!! Check out post 16! Great minds--
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:53:19 PM PDT
by
4mycountry
(One taquila, two taquila, three taquila, floor.)
To: ComtedeMaistre
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posted on
06/05/2003 7:53:49 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
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