Hillary Hypocracy Exposed on Faith and Religion

AP via Drudge and Free Republic ^ | June 5, 2003 | myself

[Michael.SF.]

WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton shows her softer side in her new book, taking some responsibility for "botching" health care reform and not being sensitive enough to people who thought she should be a traditional first lady.

She says she got through them with hard work, religious faith, trusted friends and travel.

Later in the article:

Of her description of a "vast right-wing conspiracy" ...she stands by its essence... "I do believe there was, and still is, an interlocking network of groups and individuals who want to turn the clock back on many of the advances our country has made," she says.

[Michael.SF.]

Consider the above article, which came from AP, via Drudge, and compare to an article posted here at Free Republic. While doing a Q & A at Wellesley, she is responding to a Republican student, from the article we find the following:

Clinton replied with more subtle derision that ignited the audience's laughter once again. She launched into vague nostrums about her vision for "the children" and "America's dreams," managing in the same breath to establish her atheism with a remark to the effect that Bush did not "have an ideology, he had a theology." The audience was happy. The intrepid student was not, as she sat with her question unanswered.

So in her book, which is aimed at the general population of the USA, faith is her foundation of support. This will play in Peoria. But while speaking to her natural base of support (Liberal Feminists) she establishes her liberal credentials as an Atheist.

I now the evidence of her hypocracy is everywhere, for thse who car to look, but rarely are two such contradictory articles released on the same day.

Note also her comment on the VRWC. Anyone who is oppossed to her plans for progress, is defined as a member of VRWC.

I cannot stand this women:

Or the real Hitlery:

[OldFriend]

Since most of the advances made by their administration were republican initiatives, it is hardly likely that anyone would want to turn them back. But then the truth never did get in the way of her lies.

[homeschool mama]

She's a vile sort, isn't she?

[Eric in the Ozarks]

There must be people laughing out loud in Arkansas after reading Hillary's claim of being surprised at the Monica affair. This was just one of many, many others. She knew !

[homeschool mama]

Of course she knew. She knew about most of Billy Bob's indescretions. What a twit for her to think we believe her.

[Sir Gawain]

It's hypocrisy.

[RonF]

Clinton replied with more subtle derision that ignited the audience's laughter once again. She launched into vague nostrums about her vision for "the children" and "America's dreams," managing in the same breath to establish her atheism with a remark to the effect that Bush did not "have an ideology, he had a theology." The audience was happy. The intrepid student was not, as she sat with her question unanswered.

How does this establish that Hillary is an atheist? You stretch this way too far.

Here on FR it is generally thought that GWB bases his decision making processes in large part on his faith, in contrast to many of his predecessors who tended to base their decisions more on their secular concerns. Hillary's comment above recognizes this, and implies that she doesn't think much of at least GWB's theology. But to stretch that to say that this is proof that she herself doesn't believe in God, as opposed to having a different belief in God than GWB does and believing that faith should have a different expression in Presidential decision making than GWB uses is hardly equatable to proving that she doesn't believe in God at all.

I confess that I doubt that you're worried about logic when you discuss Hillary, but there it is.

[Mark17]

There must be people laughing out loud in Arkansas after reading Hillary's claim of being surprised at the Monica affair. This was just one of many, many others. She knew !

It's not just Arkansas. People all over the world are laughing at her.

[tjg]

"There must be people laughing out loud in Arkansas after reading Hillary's claim of being surprised at the Monica affair. This was just one of many, many others. She knew !"

If Hillary wasn't a pathalogical liar, I could actually believe her for two reasons:

1. Peoples capacity to deny the truth about unfaithful spouses is astounding. How many people have you known in your life that just ignored the obvious truth about their spouse?

2. She could have thought that, even given her husbands depraved past, even he wasn't low enough to diddle a young, loud mouth girl in the oval office. How stupid was he to do that?

So the real reason I don't believe her is simply that she is one of those people that instinctively tell a lie, even when the truth would be better. But her story is believable, if it was from just about anybody else on the planet.

[punster]

"She knew about most of Billy Bob's indescretions."

If Hellarewe was angry about Sick Willie's romp with Lewinsky, it was because she was not allowed her turn with Lewinsky.

[Poseidon]

Of her description of a "vast right-wing conspiracy" ...she stands by its essence... "I do believe there was, and still is, an interlocking network of groups and individuals who want to turn the clock back on many of the advances our country has made," she says.

I think the key point here is that what she describes as advances, any sane, rational being would refer to as the spiralling descent into a socialistic, regressive society.

[fish hawk]

When ever I see that picture (bottom one) Lewensky begins to look good.

[Taliesan]

Somebody THOUGHT that comment established her atheism. Honestly. There are plenty of real articles to post without making stuff up.

[Psycho_Bunny]

not being sensitive enough to people who thought she should be a traditional first lady

You mean, "Not understanding that most Americans wouldn't put up with an un-elected, constitutionally-unauthorized, power-hungry 'co-President'"?

%$#^ you, Hilliary.

[VOA]

bump

[Michael.SF.]

I confess that I doubt that you're worried about logic when you discuss Hillary, but there it is.

If either of you had bothered to read more carefully or to check the links, that I gave, you would have understood that it was the writer of the article who used the phrase "established her credentials as an atheist." It was not me. The point I was making was this:

She used humor to poke fun at Bush's faith, while also in her book, she stated that she relied on her faith, for support, in a time of trouble. Anyone who does that is a hypocrite. Which is what I said.

I passed no judgement on her actual faith or lack thereof.

You should both read more carefuly before you accuse me of making things up or trying to lecture me on posting procedures.

[LiteKeeper]

SPOTREP - lest we forget during the next campaign

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Don't I remember many, many pictures of Bill and Hillary entering and leaving church with Bill carry a very large Bible? Oh, that's right. That was just her post-Monica phase. I'll bet that was a trying period for her. The going to church I mean, not Monica.

[Michael.SF.]

There are plenty of real articles to post without making stuff up.

After posting my earlier response to both of you, I reread the post. In doing so I noticed that if I had phrased my comments, which were made after the quotation used, as a question, or put scare quotes, around the phrase, it would hae been more clear.

However, I think both of you greatly misread the posting, far more then that clarification would have accounted for.

[Taliesan]

Well, that's all cleared up now.