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Union Voice ^ | 6/03 | Some Marxist thug

Posted on 06/04/2003 5:02:29 PM PDT by MonroeDNA

Take Action! Contact Rep. Inslee about IT offshoring

Representative Jay Inslee of Washington state says he does not think that offshore outsourcing of U.S. tech jobs is a problem. On a recent tour in India, he told Indian reporters and business leaders that he believes any U.S. state or federal legislation that aims to limit the transfer of U.S. jobs overseas will not go anywhere. He also discounted concerns about such offshoring among U.S. tech workers, saying, "People are worried about job security in the U.S. and therefore it is not terribly surprising to find a few people who will oppose outsourcing to other countries."

We think there are more than a few of us who oppose the wholesale shipment of tens of thousands of good IT jobs abroad, especially jobs that are paid for by U.S. taxpayer-funded projects. Please send a message to Rep. Inslee and help us to let him know that this is an issue of concern to consituents in his district, hundreds of thousands of IT workers throughout the United States, and millions of U.S. citizens.

Your message will be emailed to Rep. Inslee. While we have provided a sample letter, we encourage you to modify and customize this message, or swap it out with one of your own. Details about your own experiences in the tech industry will make your letter more powerful. ________________________

(the suggested letter:)

I am writing because I am increasingly concerned about the escalating practice of moving U.S.-based information technology (IT) and other computer service jobs abroad. I am aware that you have supported offshoring of IT jobs, particularly to India, and I'm strongly suggesting that you reconsider your position.

I understand from the Washington Alliance of Technology Workers and Forrester Research report that over the next 15 years 3.3 million U.S. service industry jobs and $136 billion in wages will likely move offshore to countries such as India, Russia, China, and the Philippines. The IT industry is already leading the initial exodus, with legal, accounting, and other sectors to follow.

Whether in highly visible corporations like Microsoft, or as part of other businesses such as an insurance company, IT work has fueled the aspirations of many local communities as well. It is in large part responsible for wealth creation in our country. While economic globalization may prove beneficial to multinational corporations, it is not at all clear that it will benefit most workers here or abroad. It is one thing to have access to cheaper goods, as globalization promises; it is another to have the jobs to pay for them. What we need for our future and security is for our jobs at all skill levels to stay here.

What is the future of our country if so many of our jobs, including government IT jobs, are moving offshore? It looks to me like a race to the bottom, with few social safety nets for the many workers who will be displaced.

My issue is not with IT workers in other countries, but with the practice of moving these jobs abroad with no apparent concern for U.S. workers, many of whom are highly trained and are now out of work.

Because this emerging issue is so important to our future, I urge you to support calls for an immediate congressional investigation into IT offshoring. We need to look much more closely at the ramifications of this disturbing trend -- on U.S. workers, the communities in which they live, and the future economic and technological security of this country...


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I absolutely do NOT support this effort, being driven by the Union Voice (The name should say enough). Just wanted other Freepers here, who are wondering about all of the recent anti-capitalist, outsourcing articles, to realize who is backing this. May I humbly suggest you understand the creeping infiltration here. By now, you know who they are. Note the similar language in a flurry of articles posted here, and comments.

Been here for over 5 years, this is my 4th article posted.

Freegards.

1 posted on 06/04/2003 5:02:30 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: MonroeDNA
Before this article I have already emailed Jay as he is my congressman...I suggested he be outsourced.

I back it, and I'm no tool of anybody, anyone or any union...or you.

2 posted on 06/04/2003 5:10:42 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: MonroeDNA
Being a Washingtonian, I apologize for all the liberal leftists congressional leaders coming from this beautiful state. Unfortunately, we have Baghad Jim McDermitt, Patty "Moron" Murray, Maria Cant"budget"well, and now Jay "Outsourcing" Inslee. Sheesh! What's in the water here to produce such the weird and the ugly? Personally, I dunno!
3 posted on 06/04/2003 5:22:40 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Drango
I understand, but the point is, this pro-union group is having a lot of influence on FR.
4 posted on 06/04/2003 5:22:46 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
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To: MonroeDNA
If I can get it done for less or better in India why shouldn't I be allowed to off-shore the work? I work with dozens of Indian programers and analysts and their work is first rate.

It's a responsibility to our shareholders and customers to pay no more than we have to for the work we need.

5 posted on 06/04/2003 5:29:03 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: muir_redwoods
I agree with you. Read my first comments.

Read also where I said it was by a union thug!
6 posted on 06/04/2003 5:30:23 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
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To: MonroeDNA
I understand, but the point is, this pro-union group is having a lot of influence on FR.

I hate unions but they are welcome to join many of us Freepers in opposing H-1Bs, L1s and outsourcing. It really is a bi-partisan issue.

Bottom line; there are over a million legal foreign workers here on visas. When we have so many people unemployed and ready to go to work why are we cutting our own throat?

7 posted on 06/04/2003 5:30:49 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango
Stay on topic, or start your own thread.
8 posted on 06/04/2003 5:31:47 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
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To: MonroeDNA
Perhaps, Inslee is doing exactly what Microsoft wants. Redmond is in his district and has supported his lousy a$$ in the past. Look at his FEC filing. It's a cornucopia of leftist organizations.

It will be interesting watch him "work" his labor base after this, if only for a minute. They'll all line up close to November '04 and goop gobble for him.

9 posted on 06/04/2003 5:53:53 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: muir_redwoods
And I' sure what you do can be outsourced for less outside the US borders…I also work with many Indians and they will be effected by this new trend…I getting sick and tired of this open trade when we run trade deficits with all of our so called trading partners.
10 posted on 06/04/2003 5:59:45 PM PDT by thimios
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To: MonroeDNA
Nice to know somebody still fesls confident he can pay the mortgage. I am one of several thousand IT professionals recently laid off by Bank of America and replaced with Indian offshore contractors. For some strange reason (just can't figure it) the IT job market just plain sucks right now. So I said to hell with it and went into real estate.

Hope you get a chance to personally boost the Indian economy and add to somebody else's bottom line some day soon.

11 posted on 06/04/2003 8:02:38 PM PDT by tlrugit
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To: tlrugit
This cuts across ideological lines.

It is the basic survival self interest of every working American. More power to them.
12 posted on 06/04/2003 9:09:12 PM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: MonroeDNA
So because you don't like who is backing this letter, you are going to do nothing to stop our jobs leak? I hope your job is one that gets shipped out of country.
13 posted on 06/04/2003 10:35:45 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: MonroeDNA
>>Just wanted other Freepers here, who are wondering about all of the recent anti-capitalist, outsourcing articles, to realize who is backing this. <<

I appreciate your point; certainly, one wants to be on the alert for propaganda. (I've never heard of 'Union Voice.')


I do post frequently about my opposition to the offshoring of American factories and jobs to the 'developing' world.

I am not anti-capitalist, and I don't rely on others to provide my opinion.

I do my own economic and trade research, talk to people all over the U.S. who are affected, read scholarly reports, i.e., I make every effort possible to form a reasoned opinion on this topic.

Most of the Freepers I've encountered form reasoned opinions on issues--as a group they seem not to be as prone to propaganda and rhetoric as others.

14 posted on 06/05/2003 12:27:22 AM PDT by Risa
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To: thimios
Why? What's wrong with trade deficits? It's simply a statement about comparative advantage. How does it affect you?
15 posted on 06/05/2003 4:23:15 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: MonroeDNA
I understood your feelings, I thought I was amplifying your thoughts.
16 posted on 06/05/2003 4:24:18 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: muir_redwoods
My bad!!!!!

sorry!
17 posted on 06/06/2003 4:22:55 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
"I hope your job is one that gets shipped out of country. "

Thank you for your kind words. Feel better now?

18 posted on 06/06/2003 4:25:21 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
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To: MonroeDNA
I do not want to appear as antagonistic, but you sure sound un-American. Being an American means doing what is right for America first. While Microsoft shareholders may be Americans they are a small minority. The employment of American workers and the ancillary effects on communities benefits Americans first.

If you feel that it is not your responsibility to help your community or that somehow all will work out; or if you subscribe to the idea that every company take care of their bottom line first and not the people that make up the company than,you are not an American.

America is an an Ideal....not an economic theory.

19 posted on 06/06/2003 8:29:26 PM PDT by free from tyranny
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"I do not want to appear as antagonistic, but you sure sound un-American. Being an American means doing what is right for America first..."

I do what I can to support the ideas America was founded on, which is above all individual Freedom; let the individual decide what is best for themselves. That was the philosophy of my ancestors, President's Adams, Adams, and Monroe. It was Reagan's principle philoshophy, too.

"While Microsoft shareholders may be Americans they are a small minority...."

So?

" The employment of American workers and the ancillary effects on communities benefits Americans first..."

Did you just say, "employment of Americans benefits Americans?" If so, then thanks for stating the obvious. Feeding Americans benefits Americans, too. In fact, clipping the toenails of Americans benefits Americans.

" If you feel that it is not your responsibility to help your community..."

I donate a lot more to my community than you do, trust me. I also employ more than you, too. Of course, I am "rich management," and won't employ unionists, under any circumstances.

"...or that somehow all will work out..."

It will if you are for American values, including hard work, individual responsibility, and being thankful to your employer, for allowing to be employed. It is not a right, you know. I hire and fire based on individual performance. Some hate that, but they are the lazy freeloaders, usually dumb as a box of rocks. The rest love it, and are rewarded greatly. Based soley on performance, nothing else.

... or if you subscribe to the idea that every company take care of their bottom line first..."

Of course I subscribe to that. Companies are not in business to be altruistic. Companies are there to make money. Including mine. If you want to force companies to be altrusitic, be prepared for a low standard of living, like they have in France. Better yet, just proclaim your love for socialism, and move there. Have fun in your cramped house, and filthy streets. We capitalist individual freedom lovers will be fine.

"...and not the people that make up the company than,you are not an American..."

One of us is not an American, but it certainly is not me. I understand the principles this country was founded on, and it is not to close our borders and unionize, to protect "jobs."

Let me be perfectly frank: Anyone who supports unionizing, and closing our borders to trade, is absolutely un-American.

But would do well in Germany and France.

" America is an an Ideal....not an economic theory."

Actually, economic theory here is derived from the ideal. Let people make their own choices, leave them alone, and prosperity follows. Reagan knew this. I suggest you study him.

20 posted on 06/07/2003 4:29:47 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
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