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The Death of Kathy Ferguson "Again"

Posted on 06/04/2003 10:56:01 AM PDT by AMURPHY

The Death of Kathy Ferguson.....

Maybe you didn't find me, but I found you.....Here I am again - Ferguson's daughter. This is a previous post that I encountered that was dated in 99; I'm simply reposting it to stir up any interest that may still linger. My purpose is simply to rebut any fowl play rumors as I did in the summer of 97. If an interst is shown I will gladly participate.

Amanda Murphy

The Death of Kathy Ferguson

As promised, I'd like to present information I've gleaned from various sources concerning the death of Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas State Trooper Danny Ferguson, on May 10, 1994 in Sherwood, Arkansas. I'll try to be as brief as possible, outlining what I think are the essential areas of conflict in the official version of her "suicide."

Most of you are probably familiar, at least in part, with Kathy's passing just four days after Paula Jones filed her sexual harrassment lawsuit against Bill Clinton. The proximity of these two events, coupled with the "suicide" of Vince Foster less than a year earlier, initially aroused my suspicion that Kathy might not have taken her own life. While I can't say for certain what happened to her, I feel there is sufficient doubt regarding the official finding of suicide to merit a reopening of her case. Questions need to be answered.

Kathy's body was found by her fiance Bill Shelton, a Sherwood police officer, in the living room of their apartment. In a bizarre twist, Shelton himself would be found dead one month later, lying face up on Kathy's grave sight.

Shelton, seven years younger than Kathy at 31, had been seeing other women, a sore subject in their relationship. On the afternoon Kathy died, he also suspected her of becoming involved with someone and had left her a brief note expressing his doubts about her faithfulness. Kathy always denied any disloyalty. Such was the fragile state of their engagement when Kathy died.

The Pulaski County Coroner's Report stated that police found Kathy's body slumped over a bag of clothing on a couch in the living room of the apartment she shared with Shelton. A .38 handgun lay on the floor by the sofa, and a .38 shell casing was located in an ashtray on a table to Kathy's right. The fatal bullet was eventually found in the ceiling some 12 feet to the front and left of kathy's body.

The Report indicated an entrance wound approximately 2" x 2" located about 2" above Kathy's right ear. It placed the exit wound, about 1" x 1", above her left ear. In addition, Kathy had lipstick on her lower lip.

Among the original dissenters from the Coroner's finding of suicide was a group of nurses with whom Kathy worked at Little Rock's Baptist Memorial Hospital. Able to view Kathy in an open casket at her funeral, they contend that a cotton ball was stuffed behind her left ear and that her right temple was blown out. They unanimously agreed that the entrance wound was on the left side of Kathy's head, not the right. If that were the case, why would the right-handed nurse shoot herself with her left hand?

Another source who was able to view photos of the crime scene and Kathy's body has told me that one or two of them displayed a shaved area around the exit wound. None of the nurses saw any such area on Kathy's head at the funeral.

Aside from the obvious conflict between the nurses' description of Kathy's head wounds and that of the Coroner's Report, there are several other problems. For instance, how would a bullet fired by Kathy sitting on a couch go through her head and land in the ceiling 12 feet away? Isn't it odd that the shell casing landed conveniently in an ashtray directly beside here where it could be easily discovered? And why would she put lipstick on only one lip, sit down and shoot herself? Doesn't the unfinished application of lipstick imply that she was interrupted in the task?

Police interviews state that a neighbor heard a single gunshot sometime between 7:00 and 8:00 that night. What has never been reported, however, is the eyewitness account of another neighbor never interviewed by police. According to my source, this witness lived in the apartment next door to Kathy and Shelton and heard yelling and a thump against the wall just before a gunshot. The time these distractions occurred is unknown to me, but I believe the witness indicated they may have taken place as late as just a half hour before police arrived at the scene. If that were true, it would completely disrupt their suicide finding.

Another eyewitness account which has largely gone unreported comes from another neighbor who lived in a house diagonally across from Kathy's apartment. Having a clear view of the living room, this witness overheard an officer at the scene say that Kathy's death was "definitely a homicide. No way a bullet could end up in the ceiling at that angle."

Friends and family have suggested that they don't believe Kathy would have taken her own life. In her police interview, Kathy's daughter said she didn't think her mother "really did it." Dr. Samuel Houston, a urologist who worked with Kathy for over three years, doesn't think so either. He questions whether such an attractive, vivacious woman would shoot herself in the head. Much more likely, he suggests, is that Kathy would've taken pills or drugs acquired from the hospital where she worked.

Kathy had been distraught over the tenuousness of her relationship with Shelton. A note was found on the coffee table in front of her body which stated in part, "I can't stay here any longer. things will never be the same for us." Nowhere in the Coroner's Report nor the Sherwood Police files is their any indication that this note, the gun, the fatal bullet, or the shell casing were tested for fingerprints. And though I've seen the note and other samples of Kathy's and Shelton's handwriting, and feel they look legitimate, none of them have ever been authenticated by an expert.

When I originally began investigating Kathy's death with an eye toward writing an article for a local weekly, I received cooperation from Dr. Houston and family members in Arkansas. Living on the other side of the country as I do, however, I found the search for information increasingly frustrating. None of the nurses at Baptist Memorial returned my calls, witnesses had moved, leads dried up - everyone stopped talking. Even Dr. Houston, who'd been so helpful in the beginning, stopped returning calls. He'd told me the nurses were afraid and that he was beginning to feel the same.

I promised myself that the next time I undertook a project like this it would be in the city where I lived. You can't pin down people unless you can find them physically. Apologies aside, I hope that some of this information has proven interesting and maybe even enlightening. I encourage anyone with more evidence to please introduce it here. Thanks.

Posted by: BHayes (bhayes@unistudios.com) * 02/05/99 17:33:25 PST To: BHayes Did you try and contact the detectives who investigated the crime scene? Maybe they will be able to provide more information.......... From: M. Peach (bigdaddio@earthlink.net) * 02/05/99 17:47:15 PST To: BHayes In the summer of '97 this was discussed here in great detail. One poster claimed to be Kathy Ferguson's daughter, and she had much to say on the topic, tending to support the conclusion of suicide.

Perhaps some FReeper search maven can help you locate the relevant threads -- I think they'd be worth reading over as you set about uncovering more information or validating facts apparently in evidence already.

GOOD LUCK with your researches!! From: rich. (^..^) * 02/05/99 17:54:22 PST To: BHayes Can't help but will bump it to the top. From: Aculeus (resign@leastujerk) * 02/05/99 20:45:38 PST


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: arkansas; billshelton; clinton; dannyferguson; death; homicide; kathyferguson; suicide
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1 posted on 06/04/2003 10:56:02 AM PDT by AMURPHY
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To: AMURPHY
Now all we need to do is hear from Larry Nichols and it will be 1996 all over again.
2 posted on 06/04/2003 10:58:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: AMURPHY
Welcome to FreeRepublic
3 posted on 06/04/2003 11:01:35 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (A Government big enough to give you everything, is big enough to take it away - Davey Crockett)
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To: AMURPHY

"any fowl play rumors"

This man would know.

4 posted on 06/04/2003 11:04:58 AM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: John Beresford Tipton
frank perdue...chicken man.

are you all aware of the story from when oprah was on a morning talk show in baltimore (before she got really famous in chicago). she was interviewing frank when she made the comment that some people thought he looked like a chicken to which he replied, some people think you look like an ape. urban legend? maybe, maybe not.
5 posted on 06/04/2003 11:09:48 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
I think it is probably a legend because he has used in ads the fact that he looks like a chicken. He had one like:
"You don't *have* to look like a chicken to raise chickens."
6 posted on 06/04/2003 11:15:41 AM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: dmz
No, it it NOT an urban legend. I worked in Annapolis at the time and my best friend watched it on TV. She told me about it then. She could absolutely not believe what she had heard. At the time, Oprah was just local and I had hardly heard of her. It's all very true! The way I heard it was that Oprah asked him how did he respond to people's saying he looked like a chicken. (Apparently that was a common comment about Perdue at the time. He was not well liked because he maintained very strict standards for all his employees who did not appreciate it and considered him not the nicest person himself.) He answered by saying "what do you say to people who say that you look like a baboon?"
7 posted on 06/04/2003 11:21:20 AM PDT by twigs
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To: John Beresford Tipton
"It takes a tough man to raise a tender chicken."
8 posted on 06/04/2003 11:26:59 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: AMURPHY
A .38 handgun lay on the floor by the sofa, and a .38 shell casing was located in an ashtray on a table to Kathy's right.

At this point I must ask was a Smith & Wesson semi automatic pistol the .38 cal handgun that was found lying on the floor because that is an exceedingly rare pistol and one of the very few semi automatics that fire the .38 spl round. If it was a .380 cal also known as a 9mm kurtz than such semi auto pitols are common. If it was not a semi auto pistol then where did the shell casing come from? Revolvers and deringers do not eject shell casings without manual operation of the action.

The reasons I ask are to verify what could be definitive evidence or could be merely an error on stating the caliber in the story.

9 posted on 06/04/2003 11:30:36 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: twigs
that's right, baboon, not ape.

I've lived in baltimore my whole life (minus the 4 years in college). the show she was on was "people are talking", with richard sher as the co-host.

this story has circulated for so long...what a scream.
10 posted on 06/04/2003 11:35:39 AM PDT by dmz
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To: harpseal
First thing I noticed, the .38 shell casing in the ashtray? Thing's that make you go, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? Blackbird.
11 posted on 06/04/2003 12:06:52 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Well all I know is that since Dubya took office I don't think any of his friends or associates have blown their brains out...At this point in the previous admin there were already plenty of dead FOB's...
12 posted on 06/04/2003 12:40:52 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: AMURPHY; All
Here's a fast grab of links:

REMEMBER KATHY FERGUSON ... AND BILL SHELTON
... Paula Jones Case REMEMBER KATHY FERGUSON ... AND BILL SHELTON Contributed ... That decision probably costed Kathy Ferguson her life. Within a week ... Danny Ferguson as co-defendant, Kathy Ferguson was found dead in her Arkansas ...
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The Death of Kathy Ferguson
Topic: The Death of Kathy Ferguson The Death of Kathy Ferguson As promised, I'd like to present information ... from various sources concerning the death of Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas State Trooper Danny Ferguson ...
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Murder, Inc. [Free Republic]
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"Suicide" Involving Paula and More... [Free Republic]
... that Dr. Houston is mentioned. Kathy Ferguson was shot BEHIND THE EAR, just ... Houston who was a friend of Kathy Ferguson who committed suicide in May ... several nurses who examined Kathy Ferguson's body. The report said that ...
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Another reason why it is time for them to go... to prison [Free Republic]
... Bill Shelton: Shelton was an Arkansas police officer and was found dead as an apparent suicide on kathy Ferguson's grave (Kathy was his girl friend), on June 12, 1994. This "suicide" was the result of a gunshot wound ...
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The Jane Doe Case Files, Part 2
... was a physical impossibility. Kathy Ferguson was found dead of a gunshot wound ... confirmed to NewsMax.com that Kathy Ferguson was the reason Butler's and Houston ... the only connection they had -- Kathy Ferguson. Sherry Butler told me about what ...
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D'Amato and the mafia?
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Clinton Dead Pool
... state trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson died: 6/94 ... Shelton was the fiancee of Kathy Ferguson ... Kathy Ferguson also committed "suicide" last ...
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The DEATH lists from Downside Legacy
... Foster (Whitehouse Deputy Counsel, Gunshot to mouth) Kathy Ferguson (ex-wife of Clinton co-defendant, Gunshot to head) Bill Shelton (Arkansas state trooper, Kathy Ferguson's fiancee, Gunshot to head) Susan Coleman (Alleged ...
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First Draft of a List of Issues
... Foster (Whitehouse Deputy Counsel, Gunshot to mouth) Kathy Ferguson (ex-wife of Clinton co-defendant, Gunshot to head) Bill Shelton (Arkansas state trooper, Kathy Ferguson's fiancee, Gunshot to head) Susan Coleman (Alleged ...
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THE CLINTON BODY COUNT
... full tank of gas in clear weather, near Lawton, Oklahoma. Their deaths were ruled an "accident". * May 10, 1994 Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Danny Ferguson, who was named in Paula Jones' lawsuit. She had told co-workers about how her ex-husband ...
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HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE BILL CLINTON'S FRIEND ?
... reported to have ties to Whitewater. Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper ... Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating ... Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling ...
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Save David Hale
... conversation with Foster the night before his death. His son said Parks had been investigating Clinton's sex life. Kathy Ferguson probably would have been a key witness for Paula Jones -- had she lived. The former wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny ...
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THE CLINTON OBITUARIES - The trail of death that follows Bill Clinton...
... Whitehouse Deputy Counsel, Gunshot to mouth, neck wounds) Kathy Ferguson (ex-wife of Clinton co-defendant, Gunshot to head) Bill Shelton (Arkansas state trooper, Kathy Ferguson's fiancee, Gunshot to head) Susan Coleman (Alleged ...
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Would you really want to be Clintons Friend?
... reported to have ties to Whitewater. Kathy Ferguson-- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper ... Arkansas state Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling ... reported to have ties to Whitewater. Kathy Ferguson-- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper ...
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DOWNSIDE LEGACY: REMEMBERING THE DEAD [Free Republic]
... Whitehouse Deputy Counsel, Gunshot to mouth, neck wounds) Kathy Ferguson (ex-wife of Clinton co-defendant, Gunshot to head) Bill Shelton (Arkansas state trooper, Kathy Ferguson's fiancee, Gunshot to head) Susan Coleman (Alleged ...
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4/28/98 Update Downside Legacy at Two Degress of President Clinton
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DEATHS OF CLINTON ASSOCIATES PROMPT QUESTIONS, INNUENDO [Free Republic]
... prompts questions. *On May 11 of this year, Kathy Ferguson, a 38-year-old hospital worker, was found dead in ... Sherwood, Ark. -- lying sprawled on the grave of Kathy Ferguson, who was his girlfriend at the time of her death ...
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Clinton More Lethal than Ebola
... Foster's death at the time. Oct 3, 1993 -- 18 U.S. soldiers are killed in an attack in Somalia after the Clinton administration denies repeated requests to allow armored vehicles and helicopters for backup. May 11, 1994 -- Kathy Ferguson...
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Drudge on C-span
Matt was caught coming out of NBC's building this morning and answered a few questions...he said that ABC news is about to break a Shella Lawerence blockbuster later in the week
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Is there any substance to the death threats?
... Whitehouse Deputy Counsel, Gunshot to mouth, neck wounds) Kathy Ferguson (ex-wife of Clinton co-defendant, Gunshot to head) Bill Shelton (Arkansas state trooper, Kathy Ferguson's fiancee, Gunshot to head) Susan Coleman (Alleged ...
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WILLIE LOVES HIS SEX ... ON THE EDGE
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Is there any substance to the death threats? [Free Republic]
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13 posted on 06/04/2003 12:52:40 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old keyboard cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the sunset...)
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To: AMURPHY
The Death of Kathy Ferguson.....

The Kathy Ferguson death is particularly reminiscent of that of 21-year-old Little Rock UPI Statehouse Bureau reporter Judy A. Danielak, shot in the head in early February 1979 while driving home from work, just a few months after the rape of Juanita Broaddrick and also just after Bill Clinton had assumed the office of Arkansas governor. Though her shooting was initially reported as the work of *a sniper* it was later determined that the bullet had been fired from a handgun, probably from a vehicle alongside hers, and was of the caliber and type then used by the Arkansas State Police and Highway Patrol.

Unlike the death of Kathy Ferguson, written off as a suicide, a death penalty could still await anyone charged and convicted in the Danielak murder, since there is no statute of limitations that would allow the murderer/s to escape being criminally charged the way Clinton did with the Broaddrick rape charges.

-atrchy-/-

14 posted on 06/04/2003 1:27:48 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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archy, that incident had slipped my mind--

Arkansas jounalist killed (Motorist not named, nor charged in death of columnist...
... Rock Statehouse Bureau reporter Judy Danielak by a sniper in 1979, a few months ... Remembering the Dead* research: Judy Danielak The Associated Press ... United Press International reporter Judy Danielak died at a Little Rock hospital ...
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15 posted on 06/04/2003 1:59:07 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old keyboard cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the sunset...)
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To: AMURPHY
I remember this on FR. Maybe August, '97?

At the time, there was doubt, too, but later, as the facts came to light, it became obvious that the death was NOT an accident. The eraly threads held a lot of info.

I was one of the doubters at the time (different name, earlier), and will never forgive myself for one particularly stupid post, doubting the authenticity of the poster.

That said, it was a .380 shell casing, which "mirraculously" ended up in an ashtray, STANDING STRAIGHT UP!!!

This is for real. Somebody (at the time) meant to send a message, to someone.

Around the same time, there were some pretty interesting stories of a couple of Clinton's "private detectives," names escape me...Terry something, maybe? They were actually enforcers, and one of them was pretty infamous. Did time before, and perhaps after, I believe.

Worth bringing up.
16 posted on 06/04/2003 3:18:16 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
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To: AMURPHY
Sorry about your mother. Only the comatose could ignore the trail of dead bodies left in the wake of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

If Hillary ever gets back in the White House, you can bet the body count will be in the millions, rather than several pages.

17 posted on 06/04/2003 3:47:21 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: harpseal
From the coroners report - PULASKI COUNTY CORONER, 201 S. BROADWAY STE. 340, LITTLE ROCK, AR. 72201 – Case Number: 94-697-GC stated that the gun was an AMT 380 CAL. SEMI-AUTO Handgun was on the floor by the couch. A 380 CAL. Cartridge Casing was found in the Ashtray on a table at the end of the couch to the decedent’s right. NOT STANDING STRAIGHT UP to respond to ---MonroeDNA ---- but it does make a more interesting story – doesn’t it? You will also find in the report from the ARKANSAS STATE CRIME LABORATORY Medical Examiner Division - #3 Natural Resources Drive, PO Box 5274, Little Rock, Arkansas 72215 (501) 227-5747. Case Number: ME-371-94; states that a .380 caliber automatic pistol with one spent cartridge and four live rounds belonging to the boyfriend was recovered at the scene.
18 posted on 06/05/2003 6:52:44 AM PDT by AMURPHY
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To: MonroeDNA
You wouldn't happen to be B. Guilford Gore, or would you????
19 posted on 06/05/2003 6:56:41 AM PDT by AMURPHY
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To: AMURPHY
That answers that question. i really do dislike it when reports on firearms icidents are inaccurateto the point of being misleading. Since a .380 cal semi auto like teh one found does ejected fired casings and such a casing could have landed in ashtray there is nothing per se incosistent with suicide from the limited data given.
20 posted on 06/05/2003 9:26:52 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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