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Pronunciation Help! (Vanity)
6/1/03 | ILBBACH

Posted on 06/01/2003 2:44:21 PM PDT by ILBBACH

I am giving a speech tomorrow and need to know how to pronounce "Czestochowa" as in, "The Shrine of the Czestochowa." The part of the speech is below. It's a great story that shows that the relationship between Poland and the US is indeed heartfelt:

Born in Poland in 1860, the legendary pianist, composer, and one-time President of Poland, toured the United States several times during his life. And as in World War I, Paderewski stayed the United States to wait out the war in Europe. After arriving in the US in December 1940 at the age of 80, he performed in concert and was greeted by thousands of adoring fans wherever he went. As the president of Poland’s Parliament-in-Exile Paderewski was highly active in Polish relief efforts and there was nothing he wanted more than to see his homeland free once again, however, it was not to be. He died in New York City on June 29, 1941.

Immediately, President Roosevelt ordered that Paderewski’s body be interred in Arlington National Cemetery “until Poland [was] free.” After laying in state at the Polish embassy in New York, he was placed in the vault under the mast of the USS Maine Monument in Arlington. He remained there until June 27, 1992. When he returned to Poland that day, he received the reverence of his countrymen in several days of ceremonies and processionals. Paderewski was finally laid to rest in the crypt of St. John’s Cathedral in Warsaw. Althoughs his body is laid to rest in his native Poland, his heart is encased in a bronze sculpture in the Shrine of the Czestochowa in the Polish-American community of Doylestown, Pennsylvania. It was at Paderewski's own request that his heart was to forever remain in the United States of America. God Bless our country. Thank You.



TOPICS: US: Pennsylvania; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: czestochowa; doylestown; music; paderewski; pennsylavania; piano; poland; pronunciation; worldwarii
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To: ILBBACH
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21 posted on 06/01/2003 3:26:31 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (*sigh*)
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To: Vinnie
Well, to be fair to Marie, by the time she was that age she'd been seriously irradiated by all her work with radiation.
22 posted on 06/01/2003 3:38:06 PM PDT by John H K
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To: 1rudeboy
I'd like to take this opportunity to say, Polish women are HOT.

I like the book-writing-guy Jean Shepherd. He wrote a story called "The Star-Crossed Romance" about a date between himself (not Polish), and Josephine (Polish). Here's a couple of lines (not used by permission at all, but probably ok in the grand scheme of things)...

ME: "From East Chicago."

SCHWARTZ: "A Polish girl? From East Chicago? Next door to you?"

FLICK: "What's her name?"

ME: "Josephine. Josephine Cosnowski."

The three of us sat silently for a long moment, each lost in his private thoughts. Already, schemes and fantasies were rushing through our respective skulls.

23 posted on 06/01/2003 3:59:34 PM PDT by searchandrecovery
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To: ILBBACH
Cz·sto·cho·wa   Audio pronunciation of "Czestochowa" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (chnst-kv, chstô-hôvä)
A city of southern Poland north of Katowice. Its monastery is a famous pilgrimage site. Population: 258,266.

A list of the pronunciation symbols used in this Dictionary is given below in the column headed AHD. The column headed EXAMPLES contains words chosen to illustrate how the AHD symbols are pronounced. The letters that correspond in sound to the AHD symbols are shown in boldface. Although similar, the AHD and IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) symbols are not precisely the same because they were conceived for different purposes.

EXAMPLES AHD   EXAMPLES AHD
pat   boot
pay   out ou
care âr   pop p
father ä   roar r
bib b   sauce s
church ch   ship, dish sh
deed, milled d   tight, stopped t
pet   thin th
bee   this th
fife, phase, rough f   cut
gag g   urge, term, firm, word, heard ûr
hat h   valve v
which hw   with w
pit   yes y
pie, by   zebra, xylem z
pier îr   vision, pleasure, garage zh
judge j   about, item, edible, gallop, circus
kick, cat, pique k   butter r
lid, needle* l (nd'l)      
mum m      
no, sudden* n (sd'n)      
thing ng      
pot   FOREIGN AHD
toe   French feu, German schön
French oeuf, German zwölf
caught, paw, for, horrid, hoarse** ô   French tu, German über ü
noise oi   German ich, German ach, Scottish loch
took   French bon (bô)***

*In English the consonants l and n often constitute complete syllables by themselves.

**Regional pronunciations of -or- vary. In pairs such as for, four; horse, hoarse; and morning, mourning, the vowel varies between (ô) and (). In this Dictionary these vowels are represented as follows: for (fôr), four (fôr, fr); horse (hôrs), hoarse (hôrs, hrs); and morning (môrning), mourning (môrning, mr-). Other words for which both forms are shown include more, glory, and borne. A similar variant occurs in words such as coral, forest, and horrid, where the pronunciation of o before r varies between (ô) and (). In these words the (ôr) pronunciation is given first: forest (fôrist, fr-).

***The Dictionary uses to reflect that the preceding vowel is nasalized. In French four nasalized vowels occur, as in the phrase un bon vin blanc: AHD ( v blä)

24 posted on 06/01/2003 4:38:23 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("If guns kill people, where are mine hiding the bodies.")
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To: Willie Green; xsmommy
Yinzes hunkies got any ideas?

As if.

I almost told him, "Gesundheit!"

25 posted on 06/01/2003 5:30:30 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Pablo64; Vinnie; searchandrecovery
Can't post photos, as my Lithuanian girfriend will get mad. And I assure you, after spending a good deal of time in that area of E. Europe, Lithuanian women are superior to their Polish counterparts. But Polish women have larger . . . tracts of land.

Great, she's mad at me already . . . .

26 posted on 06/01/2003 6:32:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: John H K
Actually that was my meaning of 'hot'.

She must have been heavily dosed w/ radiation.

27 posted on 06/01/2003 7:11:51 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: 1rudeboy
hey, if you would just say EASTERN EUROPEAN women are hot, you could have saved yourself all that trouble!; ) signed

xsmommy

1/4 Polish

1/4 Ukrainian

1/2 Lithuanian

28 posted on 06/02/2003 2:38:48 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: martin_fierro; Willie Green
Hunkies, not HANKIEs, ya jagoff!
29 posted on 06/02/2003 4:34:06 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: 1rudeboy
"Great, she's mad at me already . . . ."

LOL! You're not supposed to let her look over your shoulder when you post, ha ha!!

30 posted on 06/02/2003 5:21:03 AM PDT by Pablo64 ("But still I fear and still dare not laugh at the the Madman.")
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
May I just add that FReepers are like the world's largest online encyclopedia, written by a thousand monkeys sitting at typewriters. It may take awhile but we always come up with the right answer! Who knew there was a Polish FReeper who could actually answer this question. I am constantly in awe when I lurk through here. Have a wonderful Sunday, all!
33 posted on 06/08/2003 6:47:33 AM PDT by rabidralph (Just another friendly conservative.)
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