Eric Rudolph Captured

CNN | May 31,2003 | Vinnie

[Vinnie]

CNN is reporting that Eric Rudolph has been captured in Murphy, North Carolina

[Cooter]

When they use the full legal name to describe the accused, hence Eric Robert Rudolph.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

You are not anti-abortion?...I'm suprised frankly. What have you been trying to reason with me? I merely assumed that you are fairly feminist quasi conservative lady and I'm a very non feminized hardcore right wing cro mag conservative who had tried to be amicable about it all.

I cannot possibly imagine how you have concluded I am "not anti-abortion", or a "feminist quasi conservative". I really cannot.

I just know that people's hearts and minds are often changed on this topic - usually not overnight, but over years - but rarely from bludgeoning by those on the pro-life side.

For example, I read the beating a woman (you posted to her, so I think you will know the thread I mean - your post was relatively kind, especially compared to the majority of them) took on another other thread last night. An on-the-fence observer might have concluded that the goal of the pro-life movement is to make a woman who has had an abortion hate herself.

That's not MY goal, and I don't want to be associated with it.

People here went so far as to suggest she prays to Satan (she's Jewish). It made me sick to watch.

Nobody is going to win anyone over by behaving that way.

Nobody.

[wardaddy]

I am very happy to be wrong here and I apologize for misunderstanding.

You got me on the beating a woman thing. I have posted pretty heavy here lately and it's getting muddled.

I know I would never have condoned beating a woman unless she was trying to kill a man....or maybe if in a state of shock if he caught her cheating....that would not be condoning...just somewhat understanding the rage.

[laredo44]

he's pro-life, anti gay, and Christian

He set off a bomb at the 96 olympics.

He's one of us.

You're not serious, right?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I know I would never have condoned beating a woman unless she was trying to kill a man....or maybe if in a state of shock if he caught her cheating....that would not be condoning...just somewhat understanding the rage.

Sorry, wardaddy - I should have been more clear - I meant that I watched a female FReeper verbally beaten up on another thread where the topic was abortion. She got the full Reginald Denney treatment, imo, and she got it from pro-lifers. It was ugly.

I'm glad to say that your post on that thread was kind in comparison to the other things I saw going on.

[Delphinium]

rebel, I can't believe he actually answered your question. Its almost too amazing to know how to answer.

I think it is interesting that many of the people who think that terrorism against abortion clinics is acceptable will point to the "partisans" of WW2 (radical terrorists, really) to justify themselves. What exactly did the "resistance fighters" accomplish? Nothing other than getting more Jews and more of their own countrymen and women killed. Many would say that the time and effort of the "resistance fighters" would have been better spent trying to persuade the Germans to believe as they did. Instead they took the law into their own hands and killed German soldiers who were simply doing their job and judicial officials of their own countries to impose their beliefs on other people (not that what they believed was necessarily wrong). Do you think that made the Germans or the local officials more likely to change what they were doing? Even if somone is doing something really bad, wouldn't it be better to persuade them than kill them? Unless people are willing to respect law and order, the opinions of other people, and their legal rights, what do you think the chances are of a satisfactory solution being reached?

[Central_Floridian]

Thanks for the info about that.

[Central_Floridian]

Note: I do not in any way believe that the Holocaust or the Nazi invasion of Europe was in any way acceptable or that the Holocaust did not happen.

[Delphinium]

I didn't say you did, but to criticize citizens who tried to fight it is unbelievable to me. Do you really believe they could have persuaded those killing Jews to stop with a nice smile on their faces? Not much different thinking than those members of "win without war?" Get real!

[Fred Mertz]

What is the "Triple name demonization"?

You've heard of John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald and John Lee Malvo haven't you? Now we're getting introduced to Eric Rudolph as Eric Robert Rudolph. I find it fascinating how these things are used by an obedient media.

[wardaddy]

Thank You...the Reginald Denny treatment is a scary metaphor....or is that analogy?

[wardaddy]

This is the big kahuna of polarizing issues today...no doubt about that.

[aristeides]

The Nazis and their French collaborators certainly did constantly call members of the Resistance "terrorists."

[Delphinium]

This is the big kahuna of polarizing issues today...no doubt about that.

as it should be.

[Delphinium]

The Nazis and their French collaborators certainly did constantly call members of the Resistance "terrorists."

Not much has changed, has it. Same goals, and tactics, different people.

[Dimensio]

I am wondering when all those baby killer doctors will be brought up on terrorist charges and genocide charges. They admit to that for sure, without even blinking an eye.

What they do is legal under US law, so I doubt that you will be seeing any tribunals. Even if abortion is outlawed, they would have a strong ex post facto defense.

[goodseedhomeschool]

Of course, I was being sarcastic. They may not answer to man for their crimes, but one day they and all of us will stand before our maker.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I guess we could just call it a comparison. : )

I really just hate to see people act like the characters from Lord of the Flies. It can get so ugly around here sometimes.

[WarSlut]

not that what they believed was necessarily wrong.

Those opposed the the wholesale slaughter of Jews weren't necessarily wrong. How good of you to almost see their side of things. If there were a Kinda, Sorta Humanitarian of the Year Award, I'd consider almost nominating you, possibly.

The strength of your convictions is truly awe-inspiring (whoever it was that wrote this patently obscene drivel).

[Delphinium]

Sorry if you thought I wrote that. I was as amazed as you are that anyone could believe that way.

Central _Floridian wrote that here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920756/posts?q=1&&page=1051 post # 1055