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I hate telling people bad news.
1 posted on 05/30/2003 8:05:49 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: cgk
Well, one day sure makes a difference
2 posted on 05/30/2003 8:09:01 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
If this woman's life would really have been in jeopardy if her child went full-term, why didn't the judge require at least a tubal ligation to protect the life of the mother in the future?
3 posted on 05/30/2003 8:16:12 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Mr. Silverback; MHGinTN; WarSlut; Coleus; cpforlife.org; Saundra Duffy; Old_Professor; ...
Bad, tragic, evil, news ping. Sorry.
8 posted on 05/30/2003 8:29:35 AM PDT by cgk (Bob Geldof: "President Bush is radical, in a positive sense. Clinton just screwed everybody.")
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To: OXENinFLA
One of several thousand babies dismembered in the US yesterday.
15 posted on 05/30/2003 8:41:02 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: OXENinFLA
Are people on the this post really saying a retarded girl with the mental capacity of a four year old SHOULD become a mother? What the hell is wrong with you people?
32 posted on 05/30/2003 9:12:26 AM PDT by sbw123
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To: OXENinFLA; 2sheep
The victim is "doing well"

Nice touch, even though there is one dead innocent victim here. At least the blood isn't on the hands of the deaf retarded woman.

33 posted on 05/30/2003 9:13:08 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Guten Tag!)
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To: OXENinFLA
I called Liberty Counsel and thanked them for trying to speak for the baby in this case, as well as the woman. The girl on the phone was very sad, and grateful to hear from a supporter. They fight the tough fights and while they sometimes have legal successes, sometimes they lose. And losing like this makes the soul ache. I felt a little better. I will definitely be supporting them as I can.
37 posted on 05/30/2003 9:23:35 AM PDT by cgk (Bob Geldof: "President Bush is radical, in a positive sense. Clinton just screwed everybody.")
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Everybody here who is "Pro-Life" had better get to work making it easier to adopt in this country.

It is almost impossible to do so. I know, I have tried.

I miscarried several times when I was younger.
My husband and I desperately wanted a child, and eventually began the proceedure to adopt in Michigan. We had been married for years, my husband had worked in the same industry for over 10 years, and we had PAID OFF our first home.
Sadly, my husband is an epileptic. We were told that we were "unsuitable" adoption candidates. Despite the fact that we are stable, and, as it turns out, he IS a wonderful father.

Finally, we were blessed later in life with our Caitlin. She is our wealth and the light of my life.

These "Pro-Life" threads make me angry. Abortion is a problem. I hear all kinds of teeth-gnashing about how evil it is. But I see little in the way of activity to get children into good homes.

What happened to the woman in Florida is evil, from start to finish. If I could, I would castrate the rapist before I hanged him.

I'm angry.

HERE is a question for the debate: " Who here would have opened their home , loved, provided for, and taken responsibility for that child that raped woman would have had?"

Tia

38 posted on 05/30/2003 9:27:09 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: OXENinFLA
This case really disturbs me to no end. I won't go into it, 'cause I don't want the censure of the ZotMasters.
59 posted on 05/30/2003 10:05:30 AM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the Dose's Jesus Freaks, Jack Straw Fan Club, and Gonzo News Service)
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The baby has been murdered. Are you happy now?
67 posted on 05/30/2003 10:11:45 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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The baby has been murdered. Are you happy now?
68 posted on 05/30/2003 10:11:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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She "did not want her daughter to be subjected to any more of an invasive procedure than was absolutely necessary to terminate the pregnancy and for a tubal ligation," Rothenberg said.

There's nothing more invasive than inserting knives into a woman's womb and dismembering the child within.

72 posted on 05/30/2003 10:14:54 AM PDT by gumbo
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Culture of Death Ping.
82 posted on 05/30/2003 10:28:05 AM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/notify?detach=1)
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To: OXENinFLA; Mr. Silverback; MHGinTN; WarSlut; Coleus; cpforlife.org; Saundra Duffy; Old_Professor; ..
I just received this by e-mail.

Liberty Counsel's Press Release

BABY DOE MAY BE GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN

After Judge Arthur Rothenberg late Wednesday night decided to have physcians at Jackson Memorial Hospital perform a live birth using a C-section on ZH, we were very happy. The hysterotomy abortion that was scheduled for 7:30 am on Thursday was cancelled. However, Judge Rothenberg again changed his mind and then directed that an abortion be conducted.

According to today's Miami-Herald, Baby Doe was aborted last evening. Baby Doe's short life of 24 weeks has impacted our staff along with countless people around the world (a French media outlet has been covering this story). The death of Baby Doe highlights the tragedy of abortion. Here we have a case where the OB/GYN physicians specializing in high risk pregnancy stated that the baby was developing normally and there was no reason to terminate the pregnancy. But, when you place these facts in the context of a "disposable" baby mentality and a non-adversarial guardianship proceeding (where the court's decision waffles based on the most recent ex parte contact), the end result is that the most innocent victim, Baby Doe, comes out the loser. Here the intended procedure for the abortion was an abdominal hysterotomy (the same in this case as a C-section). Baby Doe at 24 weeks had a chance at life. Give Baby Doe one more week in the womb and the percentage of survival rapidlly increases. Yet, instead of givng Baby Doe a chance, the same abdominal incision is made. The only difference is that Baby Doe has no chance. Instead, Baby Doe must first be killed prior to the abortion. I don't understand a system or a country that calls this "choice."

I pray that the experience of Baby Doe will re-kindle the abortion debate in America. I applaud all those who fight every day on the front lines for the unborn children. When you enter the battle over human life and sexuality, you know immediately you've walked right into the vortext of a spiritual war. The best way we can remember Baby Doe is to be the voice of this precious child, advocating life and calling a halt to the meaningless slaughter of so many young, helpless, people.

Mathew D. Staver, Esq. Liberty Counsel

89 posted on 05/30/2003 10:40:18 AM PDT by cgk (Bob Geldof: "President Bush is radical, in a positive sense. Clinton just screwed everybody.")
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To: OXENinFLA
If it's ok to murder babies why is murder illegal?
98 posted on 05/30/2003 11:00:05 AM PDT by tutstar
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ping
101 posted on 05/30/2003 11:01:36 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: OXENinFLA; cgk; tiamat; muskogee
If we are to truly be a moral nation, we must do the following: (i) protect innocent life from conception to natural death, regardless of whether a baby is a product of rape or incest, and (ii) make it easier for loving married couples to adopt unwanted or abused babies and children. Unfortunately, the liberals are opposed to both of these things. But we can't give up.
106 posted on 05/30/2003 11:09:51 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: OXENinFLA
THe State of California has ordered the trial of a father for the murder of his unborn baby. The state of Florida has ordered the death of an unborn baby.

Sad.

121 posted on 05/30/2003 12:11:22 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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Whatever happened to "except in cases of rape and incest," though?
132 posted on 05/30/2003 12:42:50 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (This space for rent.)
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To: OXENinFLA
I hope that the judge burns in hell.

On second thought, hell cannot be hot enough for sobs such as this.
147 posted on 05/30/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT by sport
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