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The 'gay' truth: Kevin McCullough on homosexuality dominating American politics
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, May 30, 2003 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 05/29/2003 11:42:24 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: tdadams
Funny, all of the quotes you pulled from my past posts only confirm that I've never said gays need special rights.

And funny isn't it that I never asked about special rights. That's your word not mine. Even after it was pointed out to you repeatedly you cling to the lie rather than admit that you didn't answer the question.

me->And what rights do they not have that we have?

you->None. That's exactly my point. Gays have the same rights as everyone else. No more and no less. Only some people (especially here) seem to have no problem refusing to recognize those rights.

Protecting and defending those rights is what I'm arguing for. Some on here seem to think it's OK to abridge someone's rights if they personally are offended by what the person might do with their freedom, or if their behavior isn't given the blessing of the government.

And just how are these rights being violated? By denying them the special right to marry someone of the same sex? I don't have that right why should they? By denying them the right to molest my children before they reach the age of consent? By denying them unsupervised access to other's children? I don't have any of these rights why should they. I don't have the right to perform sex acts in public. Why should they?

Everything you say seems to be pushing for special rights for sexual deviants since they aren't being deprived of any rights that they already have. Now unless you can show proof of where their existing rights are being denied we will have to assume that you are indeed pushing for special rights for them.

361 posted on 06/12/2003 5:51:20 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: tdadams
Gays have equal rights... as long as they pretend they're something they're not.

How (exactly) are their rights being violated thereby forcing them to pretend to be something they're not?

362 posted on 06/12/2003 5:53:44 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: ArGee
14. The rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness have not always been recognized. They were first posited by the Judeo-Christian faith based on the fact that man is an image-bearer of G-d.

Moreover, it was originally Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of property . . . but was changed by the founders to the "pursuit of happiness" to gain general support from the masses. The founders did not actually believe in a general right of "the pursuit of happiness", which is impossible to define other than on an individual basis - and thus impossible to use to grant "rights." For instance, pedophilia makes some people happy. Does that therefore give them the "right" to do it?

363 posted on 06/12/2003 6:03:54 AM PDT by brownie (Reductio Ad Absurdum, or something like that . . .)
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To: tdadams
However, if two people of the same sex decide they want to live together as a couple for the rest of their lives, how does the government (i.e. the people) have any standing to abridge their freedom of association and say, "No, you may not be married"? I think that steps over the bounds of what the collective society can impose on individuals. Besides, how does their "marriage" harm me?

In a previous post I discussed the reason for marriage. (Which of course you ignored). So I'll do it again here.

Marriage is a civil contract between a man and a woman, sanctioned by the government for the purpose of providing a safe and stable environment for the raising of children. Since only a relationship of one man to one woman produces the optimum environment for raising children, only that sort of relationship receives government sanction. In order to promote the stability of this relationship certain legal advantages are given to the partners in the contract (inheritance, medical rights etc). All these advantages are intended to maintain the stability for the children.

Since the children are the next generation of citizens and will run this society when we retire it is in everyone's best interest to provide for them the best upbringing we can. (and of course that best up bringing only happens in a married household of one man and one woman.)

Anything that threathens or weakens the marriage contract (such as imitation unions between two men, two women, a man and his sheep etc) damages each of us as it weakens the basic foundation of the next generation of this society.

Likewise, 'homosexual' adoption or fostering damages the children raised in such unhealthy homes. Due to their mental illness/damage 'homosexuals' are not fit parents.

(Now before you bring up the standard 'homosexual' talking point "what about people who are sterile or choose not to have children" let me add that the marriage contract only provides the environment for raising children, it doesn't force children to be raised. Sterile people have been known to adopt. This puts the child in a healthy environment of one man married to one woman, exactly as intended by the marriage contract. People decide sometimes much later in life to have children (my wife and I were married 15 years before we had our first child).)

If two men want to live together in a monogamous relationship for the rest of their lives they are already free to do that. They just can't get government sanction to call it a marriage (as it has no possibility of benefitting any children resulting from the union or adopted into the union). They have exactly the same rights that I do.

364 posted on 06/12/2003 6:17:58 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: mysterio
I have a compulsion to pull fire alarms. I don't practise it due to fear of the consequences. As a matter of fact I have only pulled one once, and that was because security in our hospital had set up a flashing light to symbolize a real fire(part of a drill). But it gave me a thrill to make bells clang and people run around! Unfortunately, it was a once in a life time treat and now every-time I see a fire-alarm...I just want to tug on it just once more...
Do I have a disease? I feel this "tugging" at the deepest core of me...it must be a genetic sort of thing...don't you think?

Are there others like me? If there are then we need to form a support group and scientific studies to study us for strange genetic anomalies. We must get laws passed to bar the use of indelible ink on public fire alarm boxes so that we are not stigmatized. We must come up with a name for our genetically disposed group of fire alarm pullers. How about "tuggers" or for short.... "tugs"?

To fight off the inevitable "insensitive" discrimination, we will form political advocacy groups and infiltrate our-selves quietly at high levels of media,arts, and government. We will align our-selves with the Democratic and Liberal parties and fight for funding to help us treat the diseases we get off from the fire alarms for too much "tugging". We will approach the UN, to fight for international recognition...our goal will ultimately be world domination and for initiation of the young into our society of "Tuggers"!And then....and then...dare we assault the throne of God him-self....? Hmmmmmmmm!
365 posted on 06/12/2003 7:02:27 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: brownie
Does that therefore give them the "right" to do it?

As you point out, most rights are balanced against other rights. The worst "right" ever written was the "pursuit of happiness." Unfortunately for us, Jefferson understood that such pursuit would be both lawful and moral. If he had been able to conceive of as perverse a society as ours growing out of the American experiment He might have phrased it differently (or retained the original).

Jefferson didn't really believe in the fallen nature of man. That's why he so fully supported the French experiment, which was a dismal failure because it did not respect G-d. Our experiment did respect G-d and has been a huge success. I say "did" not "does" and I fear the worst for the future of our experiment. If Jefferson had believed in the fallen nature of man, he might have realized that we were no less likely than Greece or Rome to confuse liberty with license, and be destroyed by it.

Shalom.

366 posted on 06/12/2003 7:39:22 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: ArGee
Very interesting about Jefferson not believing (understanding) the fallen nature of man. If you have any links or book titles about that I'd be interested. Is that because he was a deist? Do you know what that even is? I would like to learn more... It seems that the belief that man is innately good but just has bad parents/government/upbringing is one of the worst lies. So much suffering has come from that. Long topic.
367 posted on 06/12/2003 10:55:05 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
You might try the recent biography of Samuel Adams. There was a lot in there about Jefferson's love affair with the French, although Jefferson was not the subject of the book.

Shalom.

368 posted on 06/12/2003 12:54:30 PM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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