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To: ArGee
14. The rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness have not always been recognized. They were first posited by the Judeo-Christian faith based on the fact that man is an image-bearer of G-d.

Moreover, it was originally Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of property . . . but was changed by the founders to the "pursuit of happiness" to gain general support from the masses. The founders did not actually believe in a general right of "the pursuit of happiness", which is impossible to define other than on an individual basis - and thus impossible to use to grant "rights." For instance, pedophilia makes some people happy. Does that therefore give them the "right" to do it?

363 posted on 06/12/2003 6:03:54 AM PDT by brownie (Reductio Ad Absurdum, or something like that . . .)
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To: brownie
Does that therefore give them the "right" to do it?

As you point out, most rights are balanced against other rights. The worst "right" ever written was the "pursuit of happiness." Unfortunately for us, Jefferson understood that such pursuit would be both lawful and moral. If he had been able to conceive of as perverse a society as ours growing out of the American experiment He might have phrased it differently (or retained the original).

Jefferson didn't really believe in the fallen nature of man. That's why he so fully supported the French experiment, which was a dismal failure because it did not respect G-d. Our experiment did respect G-d and has been a huge success. I say "did" not "does" and I fear the worst for the future of our experiment. If Jefferson had believed in the fallen nature of man, he might have realized that we were no less likely than Greece or Rome to confuse liberty with license, and be destroyed by it.

Shalom.

366 posted on 06/12/2003 7:39:22 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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