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UV light may have sparked life on Earth
NewScientist.com ^ | May 28, 2003

Posted on 05/29/2003 4:35:41 PM PDT by StupidQuestions

UV light may have sparked life on Earth

18:18 28 May 03

NewScientist.com news service

Ultra-violet light, long thought to be an impediment to the early formation of long organic molecules, may in fact hold the key to the origin of life, according to a new study.

Intense UV rays from a young Sun bombarded the early Earth and were thought likely to destroy any exposed organic molecules. But a new mathematical model implies the radiation actually helped select out the molecular seeds of life.

The earliest life on Earth is widely thought to have been based on RNA, the chemical cousin of DNA. RNA is made of subunits called nucleotides, which link together to form long polymer chains.

Certain components of RNA absorb UV light and act as "protectors", thereby giving it a survival advantage over other molecules, says Armen Mulkidjanian. Mulkidjanian, a biophysicist at Osnabrück University in Germany, led the team that developed the theoretical model.

"Simple RNA molecules can evolve under certain conditions - this is a well-developed field. But the question left is: how do you get the first long enough RNA polymer?" says Mulkidjanian. "Our model offers some physically plausible explanation of how long RNA polymers could emerge."

"This paper is important because it attacks that crucial problem," says Michael Yarus, an RNA world expert at the University of Colorado at Boulder. "If this problem could really be solved in a way that people agreed on, the RNA world would become a fact rather than a speculation."

Peculiar properties

Life on Earth is thought to have evolved about 3.7 billion years ago, when there was no protective ozone layer encasing the planet and UV radiation was 100 times more intense than today.

The nucleotides that make up RNA have three components - a sugar, a phosphate and nitrogen-containing base. "And these bases have very peculiar properties of being extremely efficient at quenching UV light," says Mulkidjanian, protecting the sugar and phosphate components which form the spine of the chain.

The team fed data on the photochemistry of various organic molecules into a computer model designed to simulate the effects of UV light on stability. "The effect was very pronounced in RNA," he says. In the presence of strong UV light, RNA was much more likely to form long chains than other molecules. -more-

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To: Kudsman
So who has and where is it recorded?

Who has what?

I would like to read it. Mr. Pasteur never disproved the existence of I AM THAT I AM either. Did he? I'm not asking to be facetious, I really am not familiar with all his experiments.

If you are referring to the Christian deity (as that is usually the subject of reference for "I AM THAT I AM" unless Popeye is being misquoted), then I'm not aware that Pasteur ever set out to disprove its existence, nor am I aware of anyone who has claimed to have disproven the Christian deity through the scientific method. I don't understand what bringing that up really does for the discussion apart from knocking it off topic.
61 posted on 05/29/2003 10:49:17 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: DannyTN; Dimensio
Well, DNA is a fact, and it is agreed upon by scientists, have you seen DNA? I haven't, but science tells me that it indeed exists.

Problem is, that there must have been something before DNA, something simpler, they have speculated that it would be RNA, if it can be agreed upon that indeed, RNA did or can exist, then the speculation, after Peer review becomes a theory.

Fact is an awfully strong word, and Dimensio would be the first to jump all over it, so I guess that I will substitute for him.

Very astute of you to notice that, but to say that we can CHANGE history by agreeing that it didn't happen is not only extreme, but also a bit silly.

But you are correct, the term "fact" in this article should NOT have been used.

Wow, we actually agree, what a concept.

Well Dimensio, how did I do?
62 posted on 05/29/2003 10:52:35 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: bondserv
I have yet to see an experiment that can disprove this idea.

Before disproving it becomes relevant, can evidence be shown for it?

I can hypothesize that the universe as we know it is just a giant computer simulation, and that the "real" universe in which the computer running the simulation exists operates under several different physical laws. I can't declare victory simply because my hypothesis cannot be disproven, however.
63 posted on 05/29/2003 10:54:42 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Dimensio
Before disproving it becomes relevant, can evidence be shown for it? The good news abounds with it.
64 posted on 05/29/2003 10:59:27 PM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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To: Kudsman
The good news abounds with it.

Huh?
65 posted on 05/29/2003 10:59:51 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Dimensio
I can hypothesize that the universe as we know it is just a giant computer simulation, Yes, you most certainly can. However the difference is that you do not have any couple of thousand year old accounts that witness what you claim to be truth.
66 posted on 05/29/2003 11:03:05 PM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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To: Kudsman
However the difference is that you do not have any couple of thousand year old accounts that witness what you claim to be truth.

What does the age of an account of an event have to do with its validity?
67 posted on 05/29/2003 11:04:23 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: tortoise
It is indeed snake oil but it is more elegantly bottled than the stuff Dennis Prager is peddling. Both are pushing the argument that life is too complex to have arisen without the active participation of a mind. Litekeeper’s cited treatise on information is a variant of Prager’s monkeys at the keyboard. Both seek to use the presence of life on Earth as proof of God’s existence. But as I mentioned earlier, neither abiogenesis nor evolution says anything at all about God’s existence, in my opinion.
68 posted on 05/29/2003 11:06:46 PM PDT by StupidQuestions
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To: Dimensio
What does the age of an account of an event have to do with its validity? Nothing to some. Everything to me.
69 posted on 05/29/2003 11:10:30 PM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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To: general_re
UV-free placemarker
70 posted on 05/29/2003 11:10:49 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow; PatrickHenry; Junior
Hurray for UV Placemarker any messages from Darwin Central?
71 posted on 05/29/2003 11:14:25 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: Dimensio
I can hypothesize that the universe as we know it is just a giant computer simulation, and that the "real" universe in which the computer running the simulation exists operates under several different physical laws.

Perhaps ironically, this is not an unreasonable or wildly irrational hypothesis. There is nothing in math and science that disallows this, and the more we know the more plausible it actually appears.

72 posted on 05/29/2003 11:31:40 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Kudsman
However the difference is that you do not have any couple of thousand year old accounts that witness what you claim to be truth.

I have a several thousand year old account of witnesses that assert a great many things, including something about the universe, an elephant, and a whole lot of turtles.

Old does not mean "correct" (indeed, there is a general inverse correlation), nor does concensus determine truth (fallacies of reasoning, one and all). So I'm not sure why you mentioned what you did.

73 posted on 05/29/2003 11:36:29 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: StupidQuestions
Thank you for a very intersting article. Welcome to FR.

I always thought there wasn't any such thing as a stupid question?
74 posted on 05/29/2003 11:39:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: StupidQuestions
But as I mentioned earlier, neither abiogenesis nor evolution says anything at all about God?s existence, in my opinion.

It isn't just your opinion; they are unrelated. A lot of the people here who argue in favor of abiogenesis and evolution are looking at it strictly from a simple physical/chemical standpoint, the same as if you were talking about weather phenomena. For science guys, talking about this stuff is like some people talk about cars. God is kind of orthogonal to the whole issue.

75 posted on 05/29/2003 11:41:02 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Kudsman
I guess that you're a true believer in the Greek gods. After all, documentation of them and their works are thousands of years old.
76 posted on 05/29/2003 11:42:27 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Kudsman
Everything to me.

Does this mean that all the tomes that pre-date the Bible (and there are quite a few), many of which supposedly contain eye-witness accounts of a great many things, trump the Bible? That does seem to be what you are saying. In the big religious writing scheme of things, the Bible is a young whippersnapper upstart.

77 posted on 05/29/2003 11:46:04 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: tortoise
So I'm not sure why you mentioned what you did.

I am willing to in faith to accept the Bible as truth. Its teachings have not been disproven. While it is also true that D's theory has not been scientifically disproven either, I do not accept it as truth as there exists no corroborating evidence/testimony to prove it. I was pinged back here and answered the pinger's question to the best of my ability. Now I think I will go back outside let the thinkers continue without my distractions. Thank you for the interest and courtesy of allowing me to respond.

78 posted on 05/29/2003 11:56:15 PM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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To: Dimensio
I guess that you're a true believer in the Greek gods. After all, documentation of them and their works are thousands of years old.

No I don't. I believe in and worship the One Triune God. Maker of all that is seen and unseen. Yourself and anyone else that may disagree with me have been given free will to believe in and worship whomever/whatever you wish. In America I am still free to pray for your souls.

79 posted on 05/30/2003 12:08:03 AM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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To: Nebullis
Pinging the experts, pinging the experts! (Who else is an expert on biochemistry? I forget.)

This does sound like it could be big, if true. See here for the original paper. Here are the main points:

From the Background section: Aluminosilicate clays have been shown to catalyze the formation of oligonucleotides of up to 50 units long, when supplied by preformed and pre-activated mononucleotides under optimized laboratory conditions [14- 16]. However, no oligonucleotide formation from pentose phosphates and nitrogenous bases has been reported so far under the supposedly primordial conditions where the formation of amino acids, nitrogenous bases and carbohydrates took place. Furthermore, the current understanding implies that the environmental conditions on the primeval Earth were unfavorable for the survival of oligonucleotide-like polymers. A particularly important factor is that, due to the absence of the ozone layer, the UV flux at the Earth surface must have been approximately 100 times larger than it is now [17,18], causing deterioration of most organic molecules. The existing theories consider the high UV level as a major obstacle and offer several different strategies for hiding the first life forms from it (see e.g. ref. [10,19,20]). Here we invoke an alternative possibility, i.e. that the UV irradiation played a positive role in the origin of life by serving as a principal selective factor in the formation of pre-biological structures. Moreover, the influx of energy into the system in the form of the UV irradiation could be seen as the driving force required for the gradual complication of the system [1]. These considerations prompted us to analyze the possible effects of the UV irradiation on oligonucleotide formation in primordial conditions.

From the Results section: In general terms, UV irradiation of first RNA-like polymers could be damaging for their nitrogenous bases, their pentose-phosphate backbone and for the bonds between the bases and the backbone. It is known that the ether bonds in monomeric sugar phosphates are much more susceptible to UV damage than monomeric nitrogenous bases.... However, numerous studies of modern nucleic acids revealed an interesting paradox: nitrogenous bases, both purines and pyrimidines, of DNA and RNA are much more sensitive to the UV illumination than the pentose-phosphate backbone. It appears therefore that nitrogenous bases protect the pentose-phosphate backbone from the UV damage. Indeed, nitrogenous bases emit the absorbed UV energy extremely fast. ... This extremely efficient deactivation of the UV quanta by nitrogenous bases allows them to protect the compounds to which they are attached from UV-induced breakage. ... Further factors, which might contribute to the backbone protection, are the effective shielding of the backbone from the UV-light by nitrogenous bases, the excitonic coupling between the latter, and the elevated capacity of polymeric compounds to dissipate the excessive thermal energy without undergoing a mechanical damage.

(Skipping the detailed description of the experiment)

From the Discussion section: Thus, the results of our Monte-Carlo simulation indicate that a mechanism of natural selection, similar to the one that has driven the subsequent biological evolution, could have been responsible for the primordial polymerization. It seems quite unlikely that the extremely effective UV-quenching by all five major nucleobases is just incidental. Accordingly, one can assume that these bases had been selected to perform the UVprotecting function before they became involved in the maintenance and transfer of genetic information. This assumption provides a physically plausible rationale for the primordial enrichment in oligonucleotide-like compounds and also sheds new light on the earliest steps of evolution.

It is worth noting the following points:

The suggested mechanism turns the high UV levels on primordial Earth from a perceived obstacle to the origin of life (see e.g. ref. [19]) into the selective factor that, in fact, might drive the whole process. Indeed, biochemical condensation reactions proceed with release of water, so that the presence of latter favors hydrolysis of biological polymers. Because of this feature, Bernal [27] and many researchers after him (as reviewed in ref. [10]) advanced the view that life has begun in tidal regions, so that condensation of primordial monomers proceeded under “fluctuating” conditions where the wet periods, enabling the exchange of reagents, alternated with dry ones, favoring the condensation reactions. The awareness of the potential danger of the UV damage, however, prompted other scientists to invoke a UV-protecting water layer (see e.g. ref. [19]), which apparently would impede the condensation reactions. More recently, several authors even moved the point of the life origin to the bottom of the ocean, where the reducing power of minerals and/or of hydrothermal vents was considered to be the energy source for the first condensation events [28,29]. It remained unexplained, though, how inorganic reductants could drive primordial condensation reactions in water in the absence of enzymes (see the discussion in refs. [30,31].

In a sense, the absence of a consensus on a plausible mechanism for the origin and accumulation of the first RNA-like molecules has significantly hurt the development in the whole field and stimulated proliferation of the Panspermia hypothesis, not to mention various kinds of creationist ideas. It appears that our consideration of the UV irradiation as a positive, selective factor in primordial evolution may suggest a way out of the dead end. This view allows to place the cradle of life onto the sun-illuminated (semi)dry surface of the ancient Earth, as originally considered by Bernal [27]. Indeed, no other known energy source could compete with the UV component of the solar irradiation either in ability to serve simultaneously as both selective and driving force, or in continuity, strength, and access to the whole surface of Earth.

We believe that the ideas discussed above could eventually be tested experimentally. On one hand, nucleotides could be formed from simpler compounds under conditions of UVirradiation [7,8]. On the other hand, the ability of aluminosilicate clays to catalyze their polymerization was demonstrated [14-16]. Thus it seems very promising to try obtaining oligonucleotides from simpler compounds in a reactor system, which (i) uses UVirradiation as a selective force and an energy source and (ii) contains aluminosilicate clays as a polymerization template.

Here's a question for you experts: The paper mentions the "five major nucleobases" being nitrogenous. How many possible bases are there? And how many of them are nitrogenous?

80 posted on 05/30/2003 1:38:02 AM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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