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Hollywood Legend Jane Russell Slams Abortion In Interview
LifeSite ^ | Wednesday May 28, 2003

Posted on 05/29/2003 1:20:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway

LONDON, May 28, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The UK Life League, a British pro-life group has reported that Jane Russell, the 1940s and '50s Hollywood movie star and pin-up girl, now aged 82, gave an interview this week slamming abortion. "People should never, ever have an abortion. Don't talk to me about it being a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body. The choice is between life and death," said Russell.

Describing her shock at finding herself pregnant at 18: "The only solution was to find a quack and get an abortion. I had a botched abortion and it was terrible. Afterwards my own doctor said: 'What butcher did this to you?' I had to be taken to hospital. I was so ill I nearly died. I've never known pain like it." Russell says that due to the abortion she was not able to have any other children.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; prolife
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To: goodieD
I just read your profile. You're a very scary lady.
301 posted on 05/30/2003 12:45:31 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: goodieD
Does everyone in your world share exactly your viewpoint on EVERYTHING? I've been a member of FR since 1997 and I ain't going anywhere. If you don't like what I have to say, ignore me. If you believe I'm a heartless monster, ignore me. Unlike your post, there was a purpose to mine. You're really a nasty witch, aren't you?
302 posted on 05/30/2003 1:54:25 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
The report about Lucy was featured in an Enquirer several years ago. In fact, they were looking for her son, who would have been around 60 at the time. I think they even reprinted his birth certificate, pre-adoption. The initial information about Lucy was from a biography about her written about five years ago.

I don't know if she had any abortions in the meantime, but Lucy did have a least one late miscarriage (or stillborn) delivery (Desi was the father) before the birth of her daughter. Then, she went on to have a "late life" baby (Desi Jr.) while working intensely on the tv show. Go figure.

303 posted on 05/30/2003 2:08:29 PM PDT by MHT
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To: cgk
According to Marilyn A-Z, under "Abortion", Marilyn theoretically had 13, which made later pregnancy with Arthur Miller impossible.
304 posted on 05/30/2003 2:09:32 PM PDT by MHT
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To: goodieD
I read your profile too. You're the kind of person I'd want as a friend. :)
305 posted on 05/30/2003 2:36:46 PM PDT by cgk (Bob Geldof: "President Bush is radical, in a positive sense. Clinton just screwed everybody.")
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To: Hildy; goodieD
Knock it off.
306 posted on 05/30/2003 2:38:14 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: goodieD
I think it was more than that. I think Hildy DOES feel horrible for her decision. When you don't feel bad about it.. you don't stand around stomping your feet about it. You just are ok with it. The emotion and effort to defend your decision wouldn't even be there/here on this forum if she wasn't crying out. This leaves me to believe Hildy is hurting very badly,..but has had to face her decision all these years with a though bravado. She is probably afraid if she started to cry about it..the tears would never stop. I felt that last night..and I feel it again tonight. I wish I could just hold her and let her cry.. and heal. To know she isn't an awful person, and is forgiven if she wants to be. It is so simple..no one wants to believe it can be that simple. That it can be that powerful.. but it is. I'm praying for that for her tonight.. and I will for many nights. I just hope one day I will get a freep mail saying "you'll never guess what"

Hope never dies.. it may change its plans at times.. but it never dies. I have hope that Hildy will come around. But these kinds of wounds make a person strike out..and then they REALLY need the support. I"m here to give it to her if she wants to reach out.. I"m here Hildy... I've known your name for a long time here.. I've always admired you and liked you. So please know I'm sincere, I'm here.

"M"
307 posted on 05/31/2003 12:57:06 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: snowstorm12
"If this is such a horendous act of violence against innocent "people" why do many pro lifers propose that the procedure be banned with no murder charge for women?"

If there were a ban against it, there would be no murder happening, would there?

"Makes no sense"

You make no sense.
308 posted on 05/31/2003 2:20:11 AM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: MHGinTN
"It is apparent that your perception of abortion and the 'thing' being killed (you would grant that 'something' is being killed, right?) is flawed at the foundation of your reasoning. There is huge difference between an organ and an ORGANISM."

I don't understand why you are addressing this to me. I am totally AGAINST abortion and have never hinted otherwise.
309 posted on 05/31/2003 2:28:54 AM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
If you will note the post to which you were pinged, I addressed the posted message first to snowstrom, and listed your name along with several others as perhaps interested parties to the line of reasoning.
310 posted on 05/31/2003 8:35:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
If abortion is murder why no punishment? The reason why is because the pro-lifers don't really believe it is a human being. Infanticide deserves equal punishment under the law. Equal crime deserves equal time.

Criminals are punished according to the crime. If this is a horendous crime against humanity akin to a holocaust, the law should reflect that. Should a woman at least be fined? even speeders get a fine? Drug dealers would get harsher punishment than a baby killer?

Your side is trying to convince people this is a holocaust remember?

Abortion will never be made illegal.

Unless these answers are addressed the other half of the population won't take your beliefs seriously. They see the anti-abortion crowd as a bunch of religious cult trying to force their beliefs.
311 posted on 05/31/2003 12:08:34 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: MHGinTN; WarSlut; wardaddy; Salvation; goodieD; Coleus; hunyb; Mr. Silverback
If abortion is murder why no punishment? The reason why is because the pro-lifers don't really believe it is a human being.

This has to be one of the densest comments I've ever seen -as it's about ME. It's not unlike Mara Liasson's comments when she claims to know what the pro-life crowd "feels."

Which pro-lifer on this (or any other thread) claimed that they 'really didn't believe IT was a human being'?

312 posted on 06/01/2003 9:13:55 AM PDT by cgk (Bob Geldof: "President Bush is radical, in a positive sense. Clinton just screwed everybody.")
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To: Hildy
How do you know "most women have regrets." In my experience, most women don't.

You mean you don't. We've all gathered that by now.

Fortunately for humanity, you don't represent most women.

313 posted on 06/01/2003 10:06:20 AM PDT by WarSlut (Absence of proof is not proof of absence.)
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To: Salvation
Your experience (and the experiences of those you know) may change when you come to meet your maker and might be accountable for the killi...er.......aborting of a baby.

You mean God doesn't have special exemptions for women who sleep with married NBA coaches?

314 posted on 06/01/2003 10:07:50 AM PDT by WarSlut (Absence of proof is not proof of absence.)
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To: nickcarraway
Russell says that due to the abortion she was not able to have any other children.

Poetic justice.

Anchient chinese proverb: "may you get what you want".

I knew a woman who had an abortion, and the following year, her only (other) son was burned alive. Nothing is "free".

315 posted on 06/01/2003 10:14:29 AM PDT by waterstraat
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To: Hildy
That is a very sad commentary Hildy.

I feel bad if I'm cross to my wife or rough on an employee or yell at my children...hell, I even feel bad if I flame too hard around here sometimes but you publicly claim to have no remorse about "terminating the life of your fetus" in your own womb?

Geez....
316 posted on 06/01/2003 10:20:03 AM PDT by wardaddy (And they tried to warn me of my evil ways, But I couldn't hear what they had to say)
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To: Hildy
I feel very sorry for your disregard for human life, I pray you will someday see the light. I know nothing anybody say's here will change your heart. only you can do that.
317 posted on 06/01/2003 10:21:18 AM PDT by frakster
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To: waterstraat
No reason to be hard on the old woman...at least she is forthcoming now. I wish some of the younger Hollywood moms would do the same.

Respectfully.
318 posted on 06/01/2003 10:21:27 AM PDT by wardaddy (And they tried to warn me of my evil ways, But I couldn't hear what they had to say)
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To: snowstorm12; cgk; WarSlut
Your bitter version of nihilism is seeping out again ... not only do I believe the baby is fully a human being and hiring a serial killer to off that alive individual should be criminalized unless to save the life of the woman. [She has every right of self-defense from the rare pregnancy that could likely kill her--like a tubal, and it is the new individual human being who is in charge of ALL the steps in her new lifetime begun at conception, like tricking the woman's body to provide life support, providing the life support while the new individual builds her own bory of oragns and size, and the labor to be born.]

So, what penalty for hiring a serial killer to off a child waiting to be born that is not endangering a woman's survival?... For the woman, accomplice to murder would be possible, accomplice at second degree manslaughter might be another possibility, with jail time and or mandatory sterilization, to prevent her doing the same criminal act in the future. [And before you irrationally holler 'enslavement', I did address forced pregnancy of rape, so the choice to be pregnant is where a woman's unalienable right of liberty is defined, not the specious right to hire a serial killer to off already alive, sensing individual human beings sequestered in her womb, sequestered there by her choice to expose herself to pregnancy.]

This proscription of abortion also would not be applied for pregnancies resulting from rape or incest--though I have yet to understand how incest isn't either rape or consensual sex-- (other rare occurrences), as long as the decision to end the pregnancy is made during the embryonic age of the newly conceived individual human life. And yes, I do believe states have every right to legislate such law and enforce it, without the central government (the Fed Judiciary) cancelling the right for the states as per violation of the tenth amendment.

That give you enough to become apoplectic over?

319 posted on 06/01/2003 10:33:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: frakster
Change my heart about what? Feeling regrets? Remorse? I never said I thought abortion was a good thing, so what do you pray for me?
320 posted on 06/01/2003 11:02:22 AM PDT by Hildy
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