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Hollywood Legend Jane Russell Slams Abortion In Interview
LifeSite ^ | Wednesday May 28, 2003

Posted on 05/29/2003 1:20:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway

LONDON, May 28, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The UK Life League, a British pro-life group has reported that Jane Russell, the 1940s and '50s Hollywood movie star and pin-up girl, now aged 82, gave an interview this week slamming abortion. "People should never, ever have an abortion. Don't talk to me about it being a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body. The choice is between life and death," said Russell.

Describing her shock at finding herself pregnant at 18: "The only solution was to find a quack and get an abortion. I had a botched abortion and it was terrible. Afterwards my own doctor said: 'What butcher did this to you?' I had to be taken to hospital. I was so ill I nearly died. I've never known pain like it." Russell says that due to the abortion she was not able to have any other children.


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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
She even told me she would be raising a baby with the loser she got knocked up by for many years possibly her entire life and this would've prevented her from moving on to her current great situation. She said she would never choose adoption because she would always wonder if the parents were abusers. She didn't want a baby to be created at all.

Watch the movie sliding doors. The slightest thing could change everything.

It's possible she may have still have met her husband if she chose adoption but I doubt she would tinker with the past to find out. She has no regrets.
183 posted on 05/29/2003 6:34:52 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: SHOCKNAWE
The women who had abortions and are sorry, have my understanding and love. What is very important for those women to understand is that once they ask for forgiveness.. they are forgiven.

One person here has stated she is one who does not regret an abortion, combined with the fact she is even posting on this thread, speaks pretty clearly to me.

I think it is extremely important for ALL women to know that the pain they feel after having had an abortion is because it was an un-natural thing to do.. abhorrent to God.

But I also think the ONLY way to get past that pain is to ask God to forgive. Then understand the immense LOVE that the Father has for you..and understand that you are INSTANTLY FORGIVEN when you ask with a sincere heart.

I saw a lot of pain in some responses. With all sincerety I am praying for that person. The Grace of God can set people free. It can save lives.. the lives of women who made poor choices, and the lives of future babies.

Abortion does nothing but cause grief and destruction.




184 posted on 05/29/2003 6:37:03 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: Hildy
Abortion is most likely one of those "coarsening" events. Rather than feel regret, these women simply become hard. No doubt that transfers over into their other relationships, e.g. with spouses, with friends, with other children.

High divorce rate and child abuse are undoubtedly derivative of the culture of death fomented by the abortion rights crowd.

These people are like AlQaida terrorists and in the end we will undoubtedly have to take very strong action against them to get our society back to a normal state.

185 posted on 05/29/2003 6:46:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SHOCKNAWE
Hey, who asked you, BIG CRAZY DADDY.
186 posted on 05/29/2003 6:50:49 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: SHOCKNAWE
From my own experience: People are not well informed about abortion.
They simply don't WANT TO KNOW. There is also alot of propaganda out there and teens are the most vunerable and misinformed.
Contrary to PP's version of abortion being a well thought out, logical decision between a woman (who never regrets) and her respectful/kindly doctor:
The REALITY is this- young frightened girls go to clinics, get an appointment with a complete stranger to just "get rid of it" and try to forget it.
A quick fix and get on with it.
Its not until much later that they realise it wasn't a "blob of tissue" but a human being. When that reality hits: IT HIT HARD.
Some people may choose not to deal with it. Not think about it. But the reality of a LIFE that was ended will always be there. I am sorry for Hildy and that there wasn't a better way to deal with her pregnancy. This is tragic. Women deserve better than abortion.
I understand the rage against abortion but name calling will not change what happened. And it won't make the future better for other pregnant women.
Its NOT enough to make abortion illegal, we have to work to make it completely unnecessary.
187 posted on 05/29/2003 6:51:47 PM PDT by DesignerChick (*Real Feminists are Feminists for Life*)
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To: muawiyah
Now I'm a terrorist. But I guess that's better than being Hitler, as was suggested by an earlier post. Do you see why your side will never win?
188 posted on 05/29/2003 6:52:38 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
How do you know "most women have regrets." In my experience, most women don't.

A dead conscience is nothing to brag about. Nor is denial.

189 posted on 05/29/2003 6:53:59 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Alouette; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; bulldogs; ...
ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

190 posted on 05/29/2003 6:54:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's a tagline. Move on.)
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To: DesignerChick
Its NOT enough to make abortion illegal, we have to work to make it completely unnecessary.
______

Best post I have seen on the issue. Thanks.
191 posted on 05/29/2003 6:55:01 PM PDT by najida (Yes I have a truck, and no, I won't help you move.)
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To: SHOCKNAWE
I seriously doubt there are mothers to be out there on this thread who will have an abortion based on what I wrote. However, I believe there may be some sane conservatives who won't participate on Free Republic because they may think most Freepers are as nuts as you are.
192 posted on 05/29/2003 6:55:36 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
"Hard Woman Blues" undoubtedly had someone in mind, eh?!

When collecting bills from folks I have encountered more than my fair share of psycho-sociopaths who had no regrets about stiffing widows and orphans (commiting fraud, actually). So, I don't doubt that you feel no regrets about killing your baby.

Now, the question I would have is do you feel regrets about not paying your bills?

Most likely you do, particularly when the bill-collector can thraten to haul you into court and have you imprisoned for fraud!

Which gets to the very last point - some folks are unable to behave themselves unless they are provided incentives.

193 posted on 05/29/2003 6:56:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hildy
I hope you read my next post. The whole "culture of death" business where folks get the idea that killing somebody else will make their own life better really does encompass the "terrorist" ideal against which we must now make war.

No doubt the abortion crowd can be dealt with with far less harsh measures than we are using against Osama's people, but there really does need to be a little bit of discipline inserted into this sort of thing.

I am sure as a law-abiding and law-respecting person, you will adhere to whatever it is that the RTL side gets put into place, right?

And with no regrets either.

BTW, did you ever suspect there were RTL people who will have "no regrets" with whatever it is that might be done when the tide shifts? I hope every day that it doesn't become too messy since that defeats the RTL message.

194 posted on 05/29/2003 7:06:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: snowstorm12
She even told me she would be raising a baby with the loser she got knocked up by for many years possibly her entire life and this would've prevented her from moving on to her current great situation. She said she would never choose adoption because she would always wonder if the parents were abusers. She didn't want a baby to be created at all.

Newsflash. The baby was already created. She killed it. She should have considered her future before she got pregnant and certainly before she had sex with a loser. Killing a person, the most extreme form of abuse, because you think they 'might' be abused in the future is the most twisted logic I've ever heard.

Your friend sounds very selfish. Her attitude is "It's all about me and my happiness. Screw everyone else." Well, I hope she's happy in this lifetime. She may not be so happy in the next.

195 posted on 05/29/2003 7:08:00 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: TEXOKIE; Hildy

The problem that sooooo many of these women have, and where they get stuck is that they feel that they CANNOT forgive themselves. The twisted thinking goes like, what gives me the right to stop punishing myself? This can cause a range of responses. If a woman feels she cant forgive herself, she may be despairing that she could ever be close to God again. She may not even be consciously aware that this is what she is doing. She has such disdain and despair, that she denies the pain, denies the darkness, shame and guilt of the act. It is a psychological necessity if she is running from the pain. She may even persist in erroneous actions. If this is the road she picks, then it may very well be that she may have to cross to the other side to learn the truth of the matter and be held accountable.
List of Psychological Complications from Abortion

Since many post-aborted women use repression as a coping mechanism, there may be a long period of denial before a woman seeks psychiatric care. These repressed feelings may cause psychosomatic illnesses and psychiatric or behavioral in other areas of her life. As a result, some counselors report that unacknowledged post-abortion distress is the causative factor in many of their female patients, even though their patients have come to them seeking therapy for seemingly unrelated problems. (5)

SUICIDAL IDEATION AND SUICIDE ATTEMPTS: Approximately 60 percent of women who experience post-abortion sequelae report suicidal ideation, with 28 percent actually attempting suicide, of which half attempted suicide two or more times. Researchers in Finland have identified a strong statistical association between abortion and suicide in a records based study. The identified 73 suicides associated within one year to a pregnancy ending either naturally or by induced abortion. The mean annual suicide rate for all women was 11.3 per 100,000. Suicide rate associated with birth was significantly lower (5.9). Rates for pregnancy loss were significantly higher. For miscarriage the rate was 18.1 per 100,000 and for abortion 34.7 per 100,000. The suicide rate within one year after an abortion was three times higher than for all women, seven times higher than for women carrying to term, and nearly twice as high as for women who suffered a miscarriage. Suicide attempts appear to be especially prevalent among post-abortion teenagers.(13)

I have a strong belief (much stronger than "belief"...it is something which is more like a "knowing") that if a woman regrets it, and makes no effort to justify the action before her Creator, asks for forgiveness, then by Grace, and the infinite mercy of God, she is washed clean. Our Father is very forgiving if we make an error and repent. Regret is an honest impulse leading us to learn some very hard lessons at times. That regret can be used to bring us closer to our Creator.

The Hand of God: A Journey from Death to Life

The basic facts about Dr. Nathanson are well known to many readers. He was co-founder in 1969 of the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws (NARAL, later renamed the National Abortion Rights Action League), and former director of New York City's Center for Reproductive and Sexual Health, then the largest abortion clinic in the world. In the late 1970's he turned against abortion to become a prominent pro-life advocate, authoring Aborting America and producing the seminal pro-life video, The Silent Scream. The video was truly revolutionary in its use of the most up-to-date medical technology to show definitely the horrors of abortion as it actually takes place in the womb of the mother. The video, along with its successor The Eclipse of Reason, was widely shown not only on television globally, but in many cases directly to legislators in many countries.

A warning to the reader: this is not an easy or pleasant book to read because it tells the truth about evil acts that are truly repugnant. What is remarkable and praiseworthy is that the doctor does not make excuses for his behaviour.

Witness of pro-lifers was decisive

In the subsequent chapters he recounts much of what has already been told in his earlier book Aborting America about his growing involvement in the fight for the liberalization of abortion laws in the United States, which of course culminated in the notorious decision in 1973 of Roe vs. Wade by the Supreme Court of the United States effectively providing for abortion on demand in the U.S. Over time Dr. Nathanson saw clearly the scientific evidence, due in great part to the new technology. It enabled him to see the child in the womb. What he had been aborting by the thousands (he estimates that he was involved directly or indirectly in over 75,000 abortions) was in fact a human being from the moment of conception. He stopped performing abortions and became the best known advocate and convert to the pro-life cause in the U.S.

However, he ends the book on a note of hope in Christ's mercy, forgiveness, and offer of salvation. As is often the case in a story of conversion, it is the prayers and personal example of so many of his pro-life friends and coworkers that over time melt down the resistance of a hardened atheistic sinner so that he can see that there might be room in God's heart even for the likes of him. Speaking of the witness of pro-lifers at a demonstration at an abortion clinic: "They prayed, they supported, and encouraged each other, they sang hymns of joy, and they constantly reminded each other of the absolute prohibition against violence. They prayed for the unborn babies, for the confused and pregnant women, and for the doctors and nurses in the clinic. They even prayed for the police and media who were covering the event. And I wondered: how can these people give of themselves for a constituency that is (and always will be) mute, invisible, and unable to thank them?" With respect to the confrontation between idealism and hardened cynicism, the description of such demonstrations could remind us of early accounts of the Christian martyrs in the Colosseum of Rome facing the lions.

Witnessing these pro-life demonstrators who were willing to go to jail and suffer bankruptcy for their belief made such a powerful impression on Nathanson that "for the first time in my entire adult life, I began seriously to entertain the notion of God, a God who problematically had led me through the proverbial circles of hell, only to show me the way to redemption and mercy through His Grace. The thought violated every eighteenth century certainty that I had cherished; it instantly converted my past into a vile bog of sin and evil; it indicated me and convicted me of high crimes against those who loved me, and against those whom I did not even know, and simultaneously -- miraculously -- it held out a shimmering sliver of hope to me, in the growing belief that Someone had died for my sins and my evil two millennia ago."

Along with the powerful witness to his heart of these sacrificial lovers, the prolifers willing to go to prison if necessary to stop the killing, Nathanson was also moved by the appeal to his intellect, through reading. "In my case, I was led to a searching review of the literature of conversion, including Karl Stern's PILLAR of Fire. I also read Malcolm Muggeridge, Walker Percy, Graham Greene, C.S. Lewis, Cardinal Newman and others. It was entirely in character for me that I would conduct a diligent review of literature before embarking on a mission as daunting and threatening as this searching for God."

ETERNITY : Grace Evangelical Society

196 posted on 05/29/2003 7:08:13 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: muawiyah
What the heck are you suggesting? Forget it, I don't want to know the rantings of a lunatic.
197 posted on 05/29/2003 7:08:15 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Aquinasfan; cpforlife.org
A dead conscience is nothing to brag about.

Father John Corapi has some excellent things to say on this topic and on dead consciences in general. He explains it better than anyone I've ever heard speak on the subject.

198 posted on 05/29/2003 7:12:52 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Hildy
As I suspected, you actually do respect the threat of force that might be exercised by government. Frankly there's nothing the RTL movement can gain with private warfare. On the other hand, once the RTL movement gets control of the Supreme Court, you just never know what might happen.

One possibility is that the SC will simply nullify Roe v. Wade, et seq, and instantly return the state of the law over the last 30 years to that which existed at the time of the ruling. Your abortion would then become a crime for which you could be punished.

That right there is a pretty good reason for you to keep your mouth shut about it.

199 posted on 05/29/2003 7:17:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hildy
"I'm not ashamed. If I had been, I wouldn't have had it. That was almost 25 years ago."

I'm really sorry for you, Hildy, and for the loss of your child.
200 posted on 05/29/2003 7:19:51 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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