Posted on 05/27/2003 6:03:58 PM PDT by demlosers
May 27 Defense Department officials have told NBC News that coalition troops have found more than 30 missiles in Iraq over the last few days, including some missiles and missile-launching components of French and German origin.
DEFENSE OFFICIALS said 33 Seersucker surface-to-surface missiles, along with two launchers, were found on the al-Faw peninsula in southern Iraq. No warheads were discovered. A Roland surface-to-air missile launcher was also found, with two missiles, near Mosul. A defense official told NBC News that the missiles were being examined to see how new they were. Some components of Roland missile systems are produced by Euromissile, based in Fontenay-aux-Roses, France. Euromissile is a consortium first established in August 1972 by Aerospatiale-Matra of France and DaimlerChrysler Aerospace of Germany.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...
The C-201 is a mid-range ground-, air-, and ship-launched cruise missile developed on the basis of the HY-1, with the primary difference being a longer fuselage accomodating a correspondingly greater propellant capacity. Apart fromt the longer fuselage, the overall configuration of the C-201 missile is similar to the HY-1, with two delta wings and triform rudder and tail. C-201 anti-ship cruise missile variants include the SY-1A [Shang You] for ship launch and the land based HY-2.
The HY-2 [Hongying / Hai Ying] coast-to-ship defensive tactical missile weapon system -- with the Western designation "Seersucker" -- is employed at coastal fortifications, bases or islands to attack enemy surface ships. The system features long range coverage and a large firing sector (+/-85o, enabling one missile battalion to cover a blockaded ocean area of 14,000 square kilometers. After the missile is fired, ground guidance and control are not necessary, and the firing position can remain concealed.
The PLAN has three categories of frigates-Jiangwei-class, Jianghu III- and IV-class, and Jianghu I-class. All of these are armed either with surface-to-surface missiles (SSMs) YJ-1 (Eagle Strike) or Hy-2 (C-201).
The level flight altitude of the missile is low, and the system's anti-jam capabilities are effective against electronic countermeasures. The missile's large warhead can sink or severely damage a 3,000 ton class destroyer.
After 5 years of development the program achieved six hits in seven firings in 1970, when the missile passed final design testing. Based on the combat requirements of Navy forces, a series of modified designs of the HY-2 basic model were developed and produced.
The HY-2 missile is also the basis for modified test aircraft and target missiles with various functions.
- HY-2A terminal guidance radar of the prototype missile was modified into a passive infrared target seeker which effectively raised the concealment and anti-jamming capabilities of the missile. The interception performance of this missile within guidance range can realize omnidirectional attacks on ship targets at sea.
- HY-2B the conical scanning terminal guidance radar of the prototype missile was modified to an advanced monopulse system radar which improved its resistance sea waves interference and various forms of electronic jamming.
- HY-2C terminal guidance radar of the prototype missile was modified into a television-equipped target seeker which was able to effectively raise the concealment and anti-jamming capabilities of the missile as well as increase its hit probability.
- HY-2G uses a high precision radio altimeter so that the level flight altitude of the missile can be lowered to 30-50 meters, raising penetration capabilities.
During the Iran-Iraq War, one of China's most controversial arms transfers involved the HY-2 antiship missile, commonly [and improperly] referred to in the media as the "Silkworm." The first of several HY-2 shipments was delivered in the summer of 1986, and in October 1987 an American-owned tanker under the Liberian flag and a Kuwaiti tanker under the US flag, the Sea Isle City, were hit by Iranian HY-2 missiles. China respomded to American complaints by claiming that the weapons had been supplied by North Korea. Although in March 1988 China stated that it would not sell antiship cruise missiles to Iran, HY-2 transfers reportedly continued through 1989. In early 1988 Iran claimed the capacity to manufacture HY-2s and other antiship cruise missiles indigenously. It is currently estimated that Iran has about 100 HY-2 missiles on eight to ten mobile missile launchers deployed on the north side of the Straits of Hormuz.
Specifications
Contractor CHETA - China Hai Yang [Sea Eagle] Electro-Mechanical Technology - CASC 3rd Academy Entered Service Total length 7.36 m Diameter 0.76 m Wingspan 2.4 m Weight 2988 kg Warhead Weight Propulsion one liquid rocket engine and one solid rocket booster Maximum Speed Maximum effective range 95-100km Guidance mode autocontrol + homing Single-shot hit probability > 70%
French surface to surface missiles,
French surface to air missiles,
French AAA weapons
French anti-tank missiles and,
French Passports for Iraqi Officials
Methinks France is our enemy, or at least double talking backstabbing opprotunist who can never be trusted
After reading these excerpts from the article:
Friday, Harringtons team hauled equipment aboard two Black Hawk helicopters and flew for 2½ hours across western Iraq to a suspected storage facility 250 miles from Baghdad.
An undated satellite image of the site showed seven buildings along the edge of an abandoned stone quarry called Rutbah, which U.N. inspectors had visited.
When Harringtons team arrived, they found only three structures on the dusty property, including a shed and a small shack.
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After only 30 minutes at Rutbah, Harrington deemed it a dry hole.
Here's the vanity part:
I have to wonder if they really know how to conduct a site inspection when searching for things that don't want to be found. (If they have 20 people looking for 30 minutes, that's one thing... but if their "team" is only 4-5 people....)
I have conducted site inspections for years, which involved searching for chemical contamination of soil and groundwater; misuse of chemicals (improper storage, disposal, or personnel exposure); historical use of properties; etc. And I can say from firsthand experience, that 30 minutes is NOT enough time to conduct a thorough site inspection, even on BARE LAND. Our inspections even included a magnetometer scan of the properties to search for buried chemical drums, underground tanks, and garbage dump sites.
So unless this "team" of inspectors has 10 or more people, I can't imagine how they can confidently say there is "nothing to see here" after only being at the site for 30 minutes. I hope this article is only telling one-tenth of the real story. But I do fear that inexperience at conducting site inspections may be missing things here and there.
As an example, early in my career, I was training a new employee on conducting site inspections. The new hire was a Chemist. At a particular site, I commented that the adjacent property was obviously made of fill material (non-native soil brought in from elsewhere to fill a low spot). The trainee asked me "How do you know?" Something that was obvious to me, based on my background and experience, would have gone completely unnoticed by this employee. And it hadn't occurred to me to "train" him on recognizing fill dirt, because it seemed so basic as to not need explanation.
My point is, these inspectors, at this particular site... having spent 30 minutes onsite (according to the article) decided it was a dead end. I would like to know if they used GPR to look underground, or if they knew to look for fill dirt, or if they knew to look at the concrete slabs where buildings used to be, or if they knew to look for sunken grades or discolored soil or dead vegetation, or if they took any air/soil/water samples, etc...
And I'm not just complaining for the sake of it...
TAKE ME !! I VOLUNTEER !!! I'd love to go to Iraq and help with these site inspections. Anyone who is listening/reading this that knows how to get me hired -- I'm all yours!! Turn me loose and I'll find the stuff!!! (My bosses said I had a nose for contamination... I always found it when others couldn't see it if it bit them in the nose. [Blix]) .... Like I said... a vanity post. ;-)
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