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The .375 [H and H Magnum] on Elephant
The African Hunter ^ | Maybe 2003 | Brian Marsh

Posted on 05/23/2003 5:53:05 PM PDT by 45Auto

Harry Manners and Wally Johnson began elephant hunting in partnership in Mozambique in 1937, and both used off-the-shelf Winchesters (Harry owned four during his lifetime, one of which having a ‘bull-barrel’, which he discarded on the grounds of it being too heavy), both used only Kynoch 300-grain solids, and both averred that this rifle/cartridge combination was all that any professional ivory hunter ever needed. They were both expert shots and could place their bullets accurately from any angle for brain-shots on elephant, but both used shoulder shots when these were convenient, alleging that this was the largest and safest target. Harry shot The Monarch of Murrapa (185 and 183 pounds a side and number four in Rowland Ward’s Records of Big Game) with a single 300-grain .375 solid in the shoulder (the full story of this hunt being told in Harry’s autobiography, Kambaku, recently republished by Rowland Ward Publication, Johannesburg).

When ivory hunting was stopped in Mozambique in the early 1950s in favour of safari hunting, Harry and Wally entered the safari field, both still only using their .375s, and I first got to know them when visiting Moçambique Safarilandia’s Savé concessions at the owner’s invitation in 1965. Harry retired unscathed to Skuzuza in Kruger National Park after Mozambique’s independence, where I often visited him, while Wally, who had earlier been gored by a buffalo his .375 failed to stop, joined Safari South in Botswana, for whom I also hunted and where we renewed our friendship. In spite of Wally’s mishap with the buffalo, both he and Harry went to their graves asserting that a .375 H&H Magnum with 300-grain solid bullets was all a professional hunter needed for the hunting of elephant.

Two very experienced Zimbabwean game wardens who only ever used a .375 were John Osborne and Bruce Austen, and both agreed that it was completely adequate for elephant and both shot large numbers of elephant with their .375s, although Bruce told me he had once all-but-lost a bull wounded with his .375 that he was convinced did not have a brain.

His first shot to the brain was taken from close range with the bull standing squarely side-on, but on receiving Bruce’s 300-grain solid, the bull had merely spun around to stand again squarely side-on, whereupon Bruce gave him another similarly placed bullet on the other side of his head. Both these shots were in Bruce’s experienced opinion ‘correctly placed for the brain’, yet the bull took off and was stopped only by a raking shot to the body that Bruce was able to take before it disappeared.

I was very inexperienced when Bruce told me this story and I fervently hoped that I didn’t run up against too many brainless elephant, but I had the odd few even with my .470. The best designed bullet will sometimes deflect on striking bone - particularly when fired from close range before it has had time to stabilize - and Kynoch’s round-nose 300-grain .375 solid bullet is very well designed. But the fact that both of Bruce’s bullets failed to find the brain from the same range and angle might indicate that they had both deflected for the same reason.

We are all influenced by the advice of our mentors and if what they advise works the first time we are prone to become persuaded. My mentor was John ‘Pondoro’ Taylor whom I knew in the mid-1950s while commercial crocodile hunting on Lake Nyasa (now Lake Malawi), and I visited him whenever I was able and was always asking questions. Those who have read his Big Game and Big Game Rifles, or African Rifles & Cartridges, will know that Taylor was a disciple of the ‘heavy, medium-velocity’ school, and I faithfully followed. Like Tayor, I became a ‘doubles man’ and opted for a .470 double (a 500-grain bullet at 2150fps) when in the early 1960s I was granted the game management rights on the half-million acre Nuanetsi ranch in Rhodesia’s south-eastern lowveld, and had large quotas of elephant to cull.

John Osborne and Bruce Austen both left 'Parks to become safari professional hunters, Bruce running his own company and John hunting for Buffalo Range game ranch which is owned by the Style family, my wife’s cousins. The fifth professional hunter whom I know who has exclusively used a .375 H&H Mag as his safari back-up rifle is Rob Style of Buffalo Range, who for many years has had big-game concessions in the Zambezi Valley and whose clients have taken a great many elephant. Rob’s mentor was John Osborne, and Rob received the best elephant hunting training that anyone could have had and was a highly experienced hunter when he became a licenced professional at the age of 19. Rob followed John’s example in opting for a .375 as I had followed Taylor’s in opting for a .470. Rob had a minor tussle with a wounded lion on one occasion which his .375 had failed to stop, but has never had a serious problem with an elephant, which begs the question: Is there any more that I need to say?

To my knowledge the .375 H&H Magnum has been proven by five experienced professionals to be a suitable calibre for the hunting of elephant, whether for the citizen sport hunter who may shoot only one elephant in his lifetime (provided he knows exactly where to place his bullet) and for the experienced professional, but I confess to a few doubts to its suitability when the newly licenced professional is not yet experienced. I was privileged to be given a preview of Lust for Life (shortly to be released by Safari Press, California), the adventures of professional hunter Sten Cedergren who hunted through the ‘golden era’ of safari in East Africa and retired from professional hunting in 1997 at the age of 78. Sten commenced his African hunting as a problem animal control officer in Kenya in the 1950s, and had this to say about his elephant rifles:

“Shooting elephant cows and young bulls with the .470 was fine, but I soon realized when going after the big bulls in very dense bush, or the close bamboo forests on Mount Kenya and the Aberdares, that I needed something bigger... On my next visit to Nairobi I went again to Shaw & Hunter and was shown a beautifully balanced Westley Richards .500 Nitro Express boxlock non-ejector with 24-inch barrels, and once I had that rifle in my hands I knew I had to have it.”

The .500 NE fires a 570-grain bullet at 2150fps - the same velocity as the 500-grain .470 bullet - which Sten considered inadequate for big bulls in thick bush... Sten also raised a point about relative ‘knock-down power’ which I think is worth recording. He tells of an elephant hunt where his Mexican client took a head-shot on his elephant:

“‘Shoot,’ I hissed, and the client’s .375 boomed, and at the bullet’s impact the bull’s hindquarters sagged a bit, but he quickly recovered, turned around and in an instant the bushes were closing behind him... We found afterwards that my client’s 300-grain solid .375 bullet had only just missed the brain and had he been using a larger calibre with a heavier bullet, the shot would probably have stunned the bull and he would have gone down, giving the client sufficient time to close in and finish him off.”

Sten brought the bull down, but had his bullet not connected it is highly likely that they would never have seen it again. When an elephant escapes from a misplaced brain-shot it just goes and goes and goes, and the chances of the hunter ever catching up with it are about nil.

To my mind there is no hunting offence more immoral than to let an animal escape wounded due to the hunter being inadequately armed. To allow an elephant to escape wounded to die a lingering and painful death, or to recover with hate in its heart and become a man-killer, is nothing short of a crime if the hunter lost it in the first place because he was inadequately armed, and I believe that the inexperienced professional hunter who carries a .375 as his back-up weapon when hunting elephant, is inadequately armed.

No safari client of mine ever lost an elephant wounded. I lost a couple when cropping elephant in my tyro days which led me to embrace the infallible when I entered the safari field. As we all know, the brain-shot is considered to be the classical shot on elephant and I would tell my clients that they must go for this shot and explain how to do it. But then I would also explain that a brain-shot elephant collapses instantly, and if it was still on its feet the instant after he had fired, that he had missed the brain and it was wounded, then it became my duty to put in an immediate following shot to stop it from escaping. When the client came into the aim for the brain, I came into aim for the shoulder, and if the elephant’s shoulder was still in my sights immediately after the client fired, I would pull the trigger. I do not subscribe to the philosophy that it’s the client’s animal, he has paid for it, and he has the right to demand that his PH does not shoot it. The prime hunting ethic is that a hunter makes a quick, clean kill and ensures that there is minimal suffering, and this ethic must supersede any demand that a client may make.

The inexperienced citizen sport hunter using a .375 on his elephant may do well to take heed of the fact that Harry Manners took The Monarch of Murapa, a truly massive elephant bull, with a single side-on shoulder shot with his .375. If properly placed, and we must suppose that every hunter knows exactly where to place his bullet, this shot will sever the main arteries coming out of the heart and will very quickly bring the elephant down. John ‘Pondoro’ Taylor writes that he preferred the shoulder shot on an elephant if he was tackling a single bull, and the Rhodesian between-wars professional ivory hunter, Crawford Fletcher Jamieson, records the same in his diaries which I was privileged to read. Both asserted that the shoulder shot offered the largest and safest target, and if properly placed, and its a big enough target for there to be no excuse for it not to be properly placed, your bullet will always bring the elephant down, generally within 100 metres.

Always using my .470 for elephant during my cropping days on Nuanetsi with a Jeffery .404 as my reserve, I had no need to crop elephant with my peep-sighted Cogwell & Harrison .375 and only ever did this on one occasion. This rifle was fitted with a detachable ‘night’ scope which had two broad elevation pointers and single pointed upright which made it effective for cropping in moonlight, and I had used it to crop hippo on moonlight nights by ambushing them on their exit paths on the banks of the Lundi river.

There was a succession of bad droughts in the south-eastern lowveld in the early 1960s with a consequence that elephant emigrated in numbers from the Gona-re-Zhou onto the European-owned cattle ranches in search of water, causing in some cases a loss of valuable water and damage to troughs. Bruce Austen (mentioned earlier) was then warden of the south-eastern lowveld and I received a phone call from him early one morning requesting I go to the cold-storage ranch at Twiza to chase off four elephant bulls that were nightly breaking the fence around a paddock and half-emptying a storage tank.

“Shoot one of the bulls while they are at the tank,” said Bruce, “and the others will take the hint, and I’ll issue you with a cropping permit for it so you can keep the carcass and the ivory.”

It was just past the full moon, making it feasible for me to go that night, and I drove straight over to meet the manager and see the set-up - to find the pumphouse ideally situated for a night ambush on the tank. It was within easy shooting distance and there was an opening in the side wall through which I could shoot, and I returned that evening with my recovery team and vehicles and my night-scoped .375.

The ranch compound was adjacent to the paddock and I assumed the four bulls would not risk coming in till the inmates had settled down for the night, by which time the moon would have risen high enough to give sufficient light for me to shoot by, but in this I was wrong. I heard the fencing wire break shortly after the moon had risen and the four bulls came in, appearing in the gloom like four floating hulks being windblown slowly towards the tank.

I examined them through my binos when they stopped at the tank, which amplified what little light there was sufficiently to show me that one bull was clear of the others and standing directly side-on to me. I would have liked to have waited till the moon had risen higher but thought they might scent me and take off. I picked up my .375 and peered at the bull through the 2-1/2x scope. The sight picture in the reduced light of the scope made it appear that the bull had not moved, but in fact he had. He was now quartering towards me. I took aim at where I supposed the aiming mark on the shoulder would be and fired, and all four bulls stampeded through the fence opposite and into the mopane forest beyond.

I now strained my ears to hear the bull fall, as I was sure he would, but heard not a sound, and after waiting till the moon was well up I walked to the fence where the bulls had broken through, still convinced that the bull must be down. I then walked slowly into the moonlit forest, staring at every suspicious-looking shadow and stopping often to listen, then walked a little further and stopped again, and after a while I came to a clearing some 25 metres wide where I stopped yet again to listen, unaware that the wounded bull was standing in the shadows at one side of the clearing. I took another slow pace forwards into the clearing, whereupon the bull became aware of my presence and he turned around so that his head was towards me, the moonlight reflecting white upon his tusks.

I swung up the rifle up to my shoulder and fixed the two gleaming tusks in my scope, which now, due to the magnification, seemed to be suddenly at the end of my barrel and for an instant I thought he was charging.

I could not see the elephant clearly in the shadows, but I could clearly see his tusks, and taking an aim at where I supposed the centre of his chest would be, I kept on firing till the bull collapsed.

I was now able to see that my 300-grain Kynoch solid had not taken the bull in the shoulder, as I had supposed, but had squarely struck the bone of the upper foreleg, which had cracked, and by God’s good grace had broken while the bull was running and which had brought him to a halt. On butchering him I found my bullet had not penetrated the bone at all, completely disintegrated on impact instead, and had his leg bone not cracked and subsequently broken I would probably have never seen him again.

My advice to the tyro professional hunter is not to hunt elephant with a .375. And to the inexperienced citizen sport hunter using a .375 on elephant, to use only monolithic solids and to aim for the correct place on the shoulder to ensure he severs the main arteries above the heart.


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To: Shooter 2.5
I read more into the site. The Nitro 700 is built on a .50 BMG.
221 posted on 05/25/2003 12:57:03 PM PDT by Rebelbase (220, 221 whatever it takes.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Those videos are funny stuff, G.!
I'm at work and they load with the speed of molasses in the wintertime.
I'll bookmark it and watch the rest when I get home.

You might not have to wait long for the next shoot.
We're trying to get one together for September.

222 posted on 05/25/2003 1:52:32 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: yarddog; wardaddy
"You are right about the beaches."

I'm a born and raised Texan, but I've been all over the world and seen the prettiest beaches in existence.
I've decided that Texans don't want to know about pretty beaches.
They'd rather think that beaches are like Galveston or Corpus where the sand is like silt and sticks to you all over, the water is a muddy brown and you have to clean the tar balls out from between your toes after you get home.
By far the prettiest beaches in Texas are at South Padre, but that's a helluva long way.

223 posted on 05/25/2003 1:59:54 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: wardaddy
I'd prefer to hunt from a stand or ground blind near a hog trail or food plot. The season on some places is year around but the best time is from November to April.

Pig hunting is one of my favorite hunting pursuits, and fortunately for us on the West coast, there are lots of them (both domestic, Russian, and hybrids) and you can hunt all year for a dollar or two a tag. You can't tromp through the brush without finding them, so much so that they are becoming a real hazard. But I've never been one of those brave lads that looks to go toe-to-toe with one; every year a few hunters here die (often bowhunters) who decided to take on a small pack of Russians and lost. I find a good elevated vantage point where I can look down on a couple heavily used pig trails and shoot from safety. And even then I've had a close call or two with a Russian. Tough as nails, and even if I drop one where it stands, sometimes I have to deal with his buddies.

When I am chasing down feral in the brush, I use a Winchester M94 in .357 Mag. Great little lever action that does the job with heavy loads and gives me a quick followup if I need it. The ferals aren't particularly dangerous in my experience unless they have some Russian mixed in with them. For Russians, I opt for something with better penetration, usually a .260 Remington (which works wonderfully on just about any critter I've tried it on). Hmm... I think it is time to put another feral in the freezer.

224 posted on 05/25/2003 2:13:00 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Squantos
Precisely ...Pedersoli...except mine shoots #11s....I'm no Liver Eater..lol

I usually shoot 565 Maxie/Minies...although she'll take sabots.

I run about 80 grains FFg and maybe 10 grains FFFg in the breech for more surefire ignition....I usually nipple charge too....the German caps are the best.

Pedersoli makes near heirloom quality in my view.
225 posted on 05/25/2003 3:25:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (Your momma said I was a loser, a deadend cruiser and deep inside I knew that she was right)
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To: yarddog
We're going to end up somewhere between St Georges and Gulf Shores this summer depending on budget.

I have found Ft Morgan road at Gulf Shores to offer the best deals on beach houses but the beach/water is maybe 80-90% as nice as Ft Walton to Rosemary Beach which is my favorite precise location.

Lake Jackson?...on my homepage, you'll see my first freighter that used to load rice bound for Haiti at Comet-American in Freeport. Nice Cow Palaces in that area...nice gals too.
226 posted on 05/25/2003 3:29:15 PM PDT by wardaddy (Your momma said I was a loser, a deadend cruiser and deep inside I knew that she was right)
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To: TexasCowboy
Yep....I lived in Corpus in 80 on a pipeline job for my dad. South Padre is the only Texas beach in the big leagues.

It's just the way the currents hit there and bring crap from everywhere.
227 posted on 05/25/2003 3:30:56 PM PDT by wardaddy (Your momma said I was a loser, a deadend cruiser and deep inside I knew that she was right)
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To: tortoise
I plan to give it a try soon. I simply want a Boar Head...a big one. I'll admit it.

I'll eat the meat of course...but I'm drowning in venison.

Anybody know anyone in Nashville needs any cut or sausage of deer meat and it's there's ...free. I bet I have 150 pounds...I'm burnt out on it to be honest and "hungry folks shelters" have more food than they need....I've called them all.

Hunters for the Hungry will take your deer at the processor.
228 posted on 05/25/2003 3:34:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (Your momma said I was a loser, a deadend cruiser and deep inside I knew that she was right)
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To: Shooter 2.5
With the way my luck has been going lately, they would find my lifeless body half way up a tree all bled out.

That would beat the hell out of dying in ICU in an oxygen tent with tubes in ant out of your orifices.

Any day.

229 posted on 05/25/2003 5:35:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: wardaddy
I love the happy early scenes in Blackhawk Down where the Delta guys are boar hunting from a helicopter, and bring it back for a pig roast.

In starving Somalia, where they won't eat pork.

230 posted on 05/25/2003 5:37:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: wardaddy; TEXASPROUD; Squantos
BTW, I just sent out Chapter 59- "Flight," the last chapter, the end, (except for the short epilogue).
231 posted on 05/25/2003 5:45:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Rebelbase
The 577 T-Rex and the 700 Nitro Express are real calibers. The .700 was born because H&H wouldn't gear up to make any more .600's so Jim Bell and William Feldstein dreamed up the .700.

1000 grain bullet
muzzle velocity 2000
Muzzle energy 8900

"Rifles are very, very expensive."
232 posted on 05/25/2003 7:49:18 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: TexasCowboy
That's great. I can't wait for the next one. I should be OK as long as I stay off ladders, watch what I eat and stay the %&*# out of hospitals.

The reason I posted the website was, they shot an elephant and when they approached it, they tapped it's eyeball. I thought that was a great way of checking results before everyone came any closer. The thing is, I didn't see that video in the collection.

I've had that website bookmarked for a while mainly because of the abduls having difficulties firing the T-Rex, putting it mildly.
233 posted on 05/25/2003 7:55:26 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: TexasCowboy
There's a pretty beach near Fort Hood. I haven't been there since '75 but it was the nicest one until I went to Jamaica.

Lousy boy/girl ratio.
234 posted on 05/25/2003 7:59:59 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Travis McGee
There's that fine line between going for the gusto and being stupid.

I did find out last month, you can do everything perfect, be safe and still find yourself in a hospital with tubes and oxygen.

Luckily, that only lasted three days.

235 posted on 05/25/2003 8:09:35 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Travis McGee
Great...I will be on it listo!

just got back from din-din out with mommy....little bro baby sat.
236 posted on 05/25/2003 8:28:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (Your momma said I was a loser, a deadend cruiser and deep inside I knew that she was right)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Sorry to hear that. My mom says "getting old isn't for sissies."

I still like the idea of being found up a tree with wild boar slashes on my legs.

An exciting finish, and people would remember that one!

237 posted on 05/25/2003 8:48:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: wardaddy
It must be great to be able to get a baby sitter.
238 posted on 05/25/2003 8:49:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: archy
understood!

though crocs don't like WARM/fresh meat, but rather would prefer us as carrion.

FRee dixie,sw

239 posted on 05/27/2003 7:28:28 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: giant sable
My understanding is that the big cats actually succumb more easily to a mid-sized round than the big antelopes do -- something about the feline antomy making them more susceptible to vascular shock. I'm curious about that because I plan to go back to Botswana and Namibia next summer for a leopard -- and I'd feel a helluva lot more comfortable with a fast, flat-shooting 7 mm mag, .300 Win-mag or even a hot-loaded 30-06, than something like a .375. I don't like the idea of shooting a parabola at something six inches tall on a branch in twilight at 150 yards -- especially with the prospect of dealing with a wounded predator somewhere out there in the dark.

Thoughts?

I'd have to agree with you about the drop of a .375 at distance, though I'd certainly want a rifle that handled well and was sighted in for close work should the cats choose to do some hunting of their own.

Maybe the .338 Lapua as the best of both worlds, offering long distance capability as well, and a very likely pick for antelope, should that opportunity arise, or if you require catbait. And carry of a few *just in case* solids would seem prudent too, in the event a buff or other surprise were to come along. I'm not aware of anyone who has taken an elephant with the .338LM but it wouldn't surprise me. And being based on a shortened .416 Rigby case, it should at least offer a minimal chance of hangups in the magazine.

Perhaps one of the new *short magnum* cases would have some utility, too, though I generally prefer to stick with that which has been tried and proven. But it is from such new offerings that advances come, and there may be some possible gems among those stubby little cartridges.

-archy-/-

240 posted on 05/30/2003 1:25:12 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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