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They've been FREEPED!
HutchinsonLeader ^ | May 18, 2003 | Doug Hanneman

Posted on 05/18/2003 9:10:13 PM PDT by dsmatuska

http://www.hutchinsonleader.com/Main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=11&ArticleID=7933


TOPICS: Extended News; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: freeped; hypocrisy; hypocrite; liberalmedia; notfair; waaaaaaaaaaah; waaambulance
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1 posted on 05/18/2003 9:10:13 PM PDT by dsmatuska
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To: dsmatuska
FROM THE EDITOR: We were 'FReeped'
By Doug Hanneman
Editor
Thursday, May 15, 2003

The early results from last week's online poll were suspicious. Last Thursday we were asking: Why would more than 100 people respond within the first 24 hours to our reader poll at hutchinsonleader.com, when our typical poll generates fewer than 200 votes all weeklong?

By Monday, we were growing even more suspicious. More than 500 votes had been tallied. And those votes were not following the pattern of people responding to a similar Minnesota Poll question, conducted a week earlier by the Minneapolis-based Star Tribune.

Indeed, our question of the week was controversial, and we expected it




to result in a larger-than-usual vote. The question was: "What do you think of Minnesota's new conceal-and-carry gun law?" By a 3:1 margin, most people told the Minnesota Poll that they don't like the new law, and added they will feel less safe when it takes effect May 28. The law will allow almost any adult to obtain a permit to carry a handgun almost anywhere in public.

The trouble is, our poll was showing that more than 80 percent of hutchinsonleader.com readers liked the new law, and said they will feel more safe. By Tuesday, more than 800 people had voted.

Then the truth arrived, via e-mail.

A woman from San Francisco informed us that we had been "FReeped." "The results will not reflect those of your readers," the woman told us. We replied with our thanks and began to look more into this "FReeping" business.

Ends up that "FReeping" takes its name from a right-wing Web site, Free Republic, founded by a Fresno, Calif., Republican. The site is visited by thousands of conservatives every day, and some of the people who hang out on the site call themselves "FReepers."

One of FReepers' favorite pastimes is to vote on Internet polls, such as the one at hutchinsonleader.com. In our case, a FReeper named "Terriergal" posted our entire editorial and told other FReepers that our Web site "also has a poll to FReep!" Terriergal included a link to our poll.

We were in good company on the Free Republic Web site. Among the numerous polls being FReeped on Tuesday included those operated by Fox TV's Bill O'Reilly, CNBC, Newsweek and MSN.

Of course, there's nothing legally wrong with encouraging a group to vote in a poll. It might be morally wrong, but let's face it, online polls are intended to generate discussion, not measure public opinion in any scientific fashion.

Nevertheless, we're disappointed that our poll question was FReeped because now we don't know what our community thinks of the new gun law. We are working to resolve this problem, however. In the near future, we will ask hutchinsonleader.com readers to register the first time they log onto our Web site. If we notice that we're getting abnormal levels of nonlocal traffic on our Web site, we might suspect that we're being FReeped again.

One last item about the FReep poll: Free Republic was sued by the Washington Post and Los Angeles Times a few years ago because it had posted full text articles from those two companies' publications. The Post and Times settled the matter with Free Republic, which agreed to pay nominal damages to the plaintiffs -- $10,000 -- and agreed to not post anymore material from Times and Post publications.

Free Republic doesn't think much of our nation's copyright laws. Terriergal, the FReeper who posted our editorial online, apparently concurs with Free Republic's position. We believe Terriergal and Free Republic violated a law that protects all Americans involved in publishing newspapers, music, literature and similar works.

Some say FReepers are harmless. But Joyce Slayton, in a column for the San Francisco Chronical's Web Site, sfgate.com, writes that FReepers have their dark side. She's tried to talk with FReepers, but most have been unwilling to talk to her. And she's talked to the group's observers, including one who described FReepers as having tapped into a "certain cultural zeitgeist, an angry streak running through conservatives pushed to their limits during the Clinton years."

Slayton says she admires the group for their passionate political views and their willingness to express them. We can agree with that. Most Free Republic followers are probably law-abiding and civic conscious.

But when a lunatic fringe of this politically motivated group covertly drowns out the views of a community that they never heard of, it does matter. In future instances like this, their views won't merit any attention.

2 posted on 05/18/2003 9:14:39 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: dsmatuska
The editorial seems to be saying that terriergal is a -----! The editorial reveals a neurotic, pompous ass who is deeply offended that an Internet poll is used by hundreds of people. Was this moral? Egads!

I found the complaint about republishing the material from the paper a bit odd. Most writers like to see their work spread around. Fair use seems to allow the quoting of sources. No one is trying to horn in on the market of the Hutchinson paper, I think. No one would, I think.
3 posted on 05/18/2003 9:19:14 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the poorest of the poor - the unborn.)
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To: hole_n_one
Nevertheless, we're disappointed that our poll question was FReeped because now we don't know what our community thinks of the new gun law.

Oh no! They posted a poll on the Internet and people actually voted in the poll!!? How terrible!! And then people from ALL over Internet actually voted in this poll that was available over the global Internet!! There should be a law...

4 posted on 05/18/2003 9:19:24 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Terriergal
In our case, a FReeper named "Terriergal" posted our entire editorial and told other FReepers that our Web site "also has a poll to FReep!" Terriergal included a link to our poll.

*ping*

5 posted on 05/18/2003 9:20:02 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one
'Free Republic doesn't think much of our nation's copyright laws.'

Idiots. The standard copyright laws gave a pass on what FR does on a daily basis for years. The only problem is that it's not beneficial to leftists to have their words remembered.

And the fact that FR edits itself and abides by the WP/LAT ruling shows that we're honest.

To the editor: Hell man, be honest about your dislike of conservatives and don't foist a strawman to attack.
6 posted on 05/18/2003 9:21:27 PM PDT by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: hole_n_one
I think the Hutchison Leader and its online polls should be placed on permanent FReep status.
7 posted on 05/18/2003 9:21:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: hole_n_one
And what;s immoral about spreading out a poll for people to vote in?

I guess he's going to slam the NAACP for their "get out the vote" drives next.
8 posted on 05/18/2003 9:22:48 PM PDT by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: hole_n_one
But when a lunatic fringe of this politically motivated group covertly drowns out the views of a community

That is not true...I did not vote in that pole.

9 posted on 05/18/2003 9:23:46 PM PDT by tubebender ((?))
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To: hole_n_one
But when a lunatic fringe of this politically motivated group covertly drowns out the views of a community that they never heard of, it does matter. In future instances like this, their views won't merit any attention.

Lunatic fringe?? Well, I never!

Hey, kettle? This is the pot. You're BLACK!

10 posted on 05/18/2003 9:24:03 PM PDT by Allegra (There's no such thing as bad publicity...right? :))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Inet polls are fair game.

Are the lib goons looking for a new way to prevent free speech?

methinks so, again.
11 posted on 05/18/2003 9:24:46 PM PDT by ALS (ConservaBabes.com - Home of ConservaBotâ„¢)
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To: Allegra
Yea, if he'll kindly reference the case of Pot vs Kettle it'll all be made clear.
12 posted on 05/18/2003 9:25:31 PM PDT by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic doesn't think much of our nation's copyright laws. Terriergal, the FReeper who posted our editorial online, apparently concurs with Free Republic's position. We believe Terriergal and Free Republic violated a law that protects all Americans involved in publishing newspapers, music, literature and similar works.

FYI

13 posted on 05/18/2003 9:25:35 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Terriergal
It might be morally wrong, but let's face it, online polls are intended to generate discussion, not measure public opinion in any scientific fashion.

Repent, sinner! LOL... Whoever wrote this really is full of himself. Or full of something, at least.

14 posted on 05/18/2003 9:25:46 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: hole_n_one
Oh Brother!! A lunatic fringe!! It might be morally wrong!?? This is hilarious!! Don't we have the RIGHT to vote on things, even if we don't live there we can express our opinion.
15 posted on 05/18/2003 9:26:06 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: hole_n_one
Some say FReepers are harmless. But Joyce Slayton, in a column for the San Francisco Chronical's Web Site, sfgate.com, writes that FReepers have their dark side.

Muwhahahahahaha........

She's tried to talk with FReepers, but most have been unwilling to talk to her.

I'll bet this is baloney. I dont know of any FReepers that wouldnt like to be mentioned in a column. Even in one by the liberal media.

16 posted on 05/18/2003 9:27:06 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Lunatic Fringe
But when a lunatic fringe of this politically motivated group covertly drowns out the views of a community

You were involved? :-P

17 posted on 05/18/2003 9:27:45 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: hole_n_one
The editor has accomplished precisely one thing: He's sold out his newspaper's credibility forever. His hatred for nonliberals is oozing out of every pore.
18 posted on 05/18/2003 9:28:34 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: hole_n_one
LOL! I wonder how the tattletail knew the poll was being freeped? Hmmm, she must be a closet lurker eh? :-) Funny how they brought up the lawsuit. To say we infringed on their copywrite laws is ludicrous. The internet is public domain. Telling us we have to register is stupid, we get around those things too whistleblower lurker! Better go and tell the King!
19 posted on 05/18/2003 9:29:08 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: dsmatuska
LOL, what a stupid response by the editor. BTW, I wasn't around when that lawsuit he mentioned was filed. What happened then?
20 posted on 05/18/2003 9:29:33 PM PDT by baseballfanjm (The Red Sox= 2003 World Champs, Pedro and Nomar= World Series MVPs, Me= forever hopeful)
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