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JFK's liaisons, Jackie's pain
New York Daily News | 5/18/03 | TRACY CONNOR

Posted on 05/18/2003 6:53:16 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Helms
The most important aspect that you touched on in your post is the Hollywood and entertainment aspect he brought to the Presidency. Recall too that Joseph Kennedy Sr. owned movie studios in the '20's and 30's.

His was a made for Hollywood Presidency. JFK himself followed the entertainment tabloids voraciously. The Oval Office was his casting couch. He had a "trophy" wife, but he was a ba-boy on the side. Lawford, Sinatra, Monroe -- you name it, he hung at the soire's with all the beautiful people, and had some marry into the family

The media made him into a movie star and the media have been star-struck with him ever since. He raised their prominence like no other President had. He made media and news readers "supporting actors." For what it's worth Clinton tried to cop Kennedy's "script." and personna -- with some success, but not with Kennedy's staying power, or with as naive a public. Clinton came to America in a different era.

People chose Bush. We now have a dark and light; we have a direct contrast. We don't want the Kennedy-Clinton style made for Hollywood Presidency. We wearied of our soiled condition. We elected Bush. More truth about Kennedy now surfaces. I suspect it will about Clinton too.

Kennedy's behavior was little different from the typical Hollywood movie star. His "competance" shamed us at the Bay of Pigs and, stemming from it, he almost got the world blown up in 1962. A year later, the B-movie hero was blown away and his tragic acting legacy sealed until someone tried to upstage him...the guy who just won't leave the stage...Clinton.

Consider why the Dems hated Reagan so much: a real Hollywood movie star, who knew their script, and could out do Kennedy's performance with a better one, and at the same time, collapse the threat that Kennedy's foolishness almost had US impailed on --- the USSR.

61 posted on 05/18/2003 3:49:16 PM PDT by Agamemnon
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To: Howlin
If I am not mistaken, that very episode is the origination of the phrase "scorched earth policy."

Not Sherman's march through the South?

62 posted on 05/18/2003 3:53:09 PM PDT by Agamemnon
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To: kattracks
I am not sure what all this fuss is about. JFK was a Liberal Democrat. This sort of behavior for a LD is as much news as is the discovery that the Pope is a Catholic.
63 posted on 05/18/2003 4:05:09 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: CathyRyan
The story does not hold water.

The mystery seat companion "had my attention immediately" with this story, but on the other hand, the author can not recall the name of the newspaper? Give me a break.

Not to mention that the reference web site, 100777.com, is one of the biggest Tinfoil Hat sites I have ever seen... LOL

64 posted on 05/18/2003 4:16:28 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: Jeff Gordon
Oh well, guess that is why you do not hear that rumor much when talking about the Kennedys
65 posted on 05/18/2003 4:45:57 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: Agamemnon
you have expressed my view and I was there in '62 and before ...rto
66 posted on 05/18/2003 5:25:48 PM PDT by visitor (Thank God George Bush Won)
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To: csvset
If this is "upper class", I'm so happy we're "lower class". What a bunch of sleaze.
67 posted on 05/18/2003 6:31:01 PM PDT by maxwellp (Throw the U.N. in the garbage where it belongs.)
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To: veronica
I might get bashed for this but I too believe Jackie loved her husband JFK. I also believe she lived for her children and always had their best interest at heart.
68 posted on 05/18/2003 6:44:50 PM PDT by Arpege92
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To: CathyRyan
Oh well, guess that is why you do not hear that rumor much when talking about the Kennedys.

Believe me, as one who lived within 5 miles of the Kennedy compound for a number of years, as one who talked with one of the Kennedy "gofers", as one who heard the stories of many of the Kennedy neighbors, as one who's ex-wife worked at the Hyannis hotel nearest the compound and who saw some of the "do you know who I am" crap, as one who discussed the Kennedy situation with the manager of that hotel, we don't need to rely on unfounded rumors. All that we need is for Big Media to come out with the truth.

By the way, the only Kennedy or Kennedy relative who ever bothered to pay that hotel for the services provided was Arnold Schwarzenegger - a Republican.

69 posted on 05/18/2003 7:17:33 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: FITZ
Re your post No. 47. You hit the nail on the head. Many people equate money with class and it's entirely wrong. Class comes from decency within the heart, not from having big bucks.
70 posted on 05/18/2003 7:32:49 PM PDT by maxwellp (Throw the U.N. in the garbage where it belongs.)
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To: kattracks
RE: Jackie Kennedy...

Boo-effin'-Hoo.

71 posted on 05/18/2003 7:35:07 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: jackbill
Would you please chill out. I had heard that rumor for years long before people had home computers. I just said I was surprise that that one particular rumor did not show up more often. It was not until I looked for a source that I found it to be so rare. So chill out. I never said it was true.
72 posted on 05/18/2003 7:37:34 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: Agamemnon
Kennedy's behavior was little different from the typical Hollywood movie star. His "competance" shamed us at the Bay of Pigs and, stemming from it, he almost got the world blown up in 1962. A year later, the B-movie hero was blown away and his tragic acting legacy sealed until someone tried to upstage him...the guy who just won't leave the stage...Clinton.

Consider why the Dems hated Reagan so much: a real Hollywood movie star, who knew their script, and could out do Kennedy's performance with a better one, and at the same time, collapse the threat that Kennedy's foolishness almost had US impailed on --- the USSR.




Excellent points! Kennedy was incompetent! And I believe he would have been as much a disaster as Carter had he lived to finish his term.
73 posted on 05/18/2003 9:22:53 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04........Across America!)
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To: whereasandsoforth
I've scrapped higher-class gunk off my toilet bowl jets.

Now *that* is clever :)

74 posted on 05/18/2003 9:30:42 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("When Iraq is free, they will despise those who marched to keep them in hell." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Tacis
I disagree with you totally. I believe Jackie loved her husband very much. She married Onassis to escape this country where she thought her children were in danger. My God, after all of the killings who wouldn't. I will never believe what you do, not ever. Onassis offered her security in more than just money. She suffered an extreme trauma seeing her husbands brains blown out all over her. Have some compassion for goodness sake! You don't care what I think I am sure, but your post was particularly nasty.
75 posted on 05/18/2003 9:43:42 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Tacis
PS The biggest hooker we ever had in this country wasn't a female, it was Bill Clinton of Arkansas!
76 posted on 05/18/2003 9:45:26 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Helms; Agamemnon
why did the media use initials for JFK etal? your post, as is Agamemnon's #61, reflect a keen knowledge of his family and his time in office. 1960 was my first presidential election and the year I began my tour as a Naval Aviator and was directly involved in the Cuban Missile Crisis which led to my total distrust of the dems and the study of that period and the people involved ...rto
77 posted on 05/19/2003 5:08:11 AM PDT by visitor (Thank God George Bush Won)
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