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1 posted on 05/17/2003 8:36:06 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
WHERE is - El Cid - when you need him?
2 posted on 05/17/2003 8:41:36 AM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: freeperfromnj
2nd Thessalonians chapter 2, verses 11,12
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should belive a lie:
That that all might be damned who belived not the truth but had pleasure
in unrighteousness.
Adios Muchachas
3 posted on 05/17/2003 8:43:06 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: freeperfromnj
The Pakistani and Sudanese and Somali and Afghan parts get burned off and you're left with American Muslims all standing in the same mosque, all praying together.

Oh, I feel all warm and fuzzy now.

4 posted on 05/17/2003 8:43:49 AM PDT by riri
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To: freeperfromnj
"America has become the crucible for Islam," he said. "The crucible is a container where you put an element, place it in the fire and heat it so that you burn away all but the pure element. The Pakistani and Sudanese and Somali and Afghan parts get burned off and you're left with American Muslims all standing in the same mosque, all praying together."

Somehow i doubt they become Americans by heart.
While there are many Patriotic American Muslims there are also scumbags lowlives trying to take advantage of our system.
5 posted on 05/17/2003 8:47:37 AM PDT by freedom44
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To: freeperfromnj
For a little help to the "public schoolers" :>)

"El Cid" was a Spanish hero/legend credited with driving the Moors/Muslims out of Spain - thereby out of Europe. Pushing Islam back to its root.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03769a.htm


6 posted on 05/17/2003 8:48:38 AM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: freeperfromnj
They're moving in like locusts from other countries. They're not converting the natives. Any muslim missionary that shows up on my doorstep is going to get an earful, and since Sept. 11th, I'm not feeling real shy.
7 posted on 05/17/2003 8:48:56 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Coleus
Your NJ Ping list please
8 posted on 05/17/2003 8:49:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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"Just the other day, I got a call from a man who opened a supermarket who asked `Can I sell pork or lottery tickets?' These are the things of everyday life here." (The answer was no, as pork and gambling are prohibited in Islam.)

No pork or gambling? how about flying commerical aircraft full of innocent civilians into office towers..killing the Jews and Christians where you find them?... (Not know Achmed...wait...be patient...first we must make all the fools believe the lie...that we are the relegion of peace..we must grow strong...so strong that our victory will be sweeping..we must own the institutions and the politicians...we must make "them" the minority.. Then when through the corruption of their own freedoms we will strike...and America will be a muslim nation for the glory of allah and mohhamed...(with a little left over for expenses)

9 posted on 05/17/2003 8:50:14 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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"Just the other day, I got a call from a man who opened a supermarket who asked `Can I sell pork or lottery tickets?' These are the things of everyday life here." (The answer was no, as pork and gambling are prohibited in Islam.)

Hmmmm.... and why did the man (who owned a supermarket) ask? Because, he was afraid that his business would be fire bombed by a bunch of Islaminazis.... that's why.

10 posted on 05/17/2003 8:50:27 AM PDT by PokeyJoe (MS Windows TCP/IP stack was lifted from BSD)
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What do you expect, when you have an un-restricted, or no immigration policy, and borders that leak like sieves. Just bring in hordes of people to work in the tech industry, irrespective of the impact that they'll have culturally. We're cutting our own throats! Adherents of the "religion of peace" won't have to!
11 posted on 05/17/2003 8:51:26 AM PDT by old school
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Every state now has mosques.

At first when we noticed them under construction we hadn't a clue as to what they were. Then when the minaret went up we knew that another den of satan had been hatched under our very eyes.

Traveling up I-75 across the Ohio River, just north of Cincinnati's outer belt you'll easily spot a large mosque. Before I-75 turns into I-475, just south of Toledo, you'll spot another.

Just a few days ago I said, referring to the movie: Pee Wee's Big Adventure, that if we could check out the basement (without having our head removed by a muslim swinging a scimitar) we wouldn't find Pee Wee's bicycle, but would see a collection of weaponry and explosives much like the Brits saw when they entered a London mosque recently.

Soon it will be too late. They're converting blacks in prisons to their filthy religion and anyone else they can persuade. What evil activities are being directed from these "houses of worship" we can only imagine, but you can be certain that many, if not all, are the nucleus of al Quaida activity.

Our government can suck up to the moslems and say that only a few believe in killing "infidels" but if you read enough about this "religion" you can truly see how sinister it is.

12 posted on 05/17/2003 8:52:00 AM PDT by LuisBasco
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To: Tamsey
Meet my neighbors.
15 posted on 05/17/2003 8:56:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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Scenes like this are playing out across the United States as Muslim communities spread out from the cities to the suburbs.

For some strange reason, Christian congregations are not springing up in any Muslim countries.

Now, why would that be?

16 posted on 05/17/2003 9:00:08 AM PDT by Gritty
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RADICAL ISLAM (AND SOME OF ISLAM) AS A "MEME"/ MENTAL VIRUS:

http://www.memecentral.com/

Memetics FAQ
(Frequently Asked Questions)

* How do you pronounce "meme"?

* "Meem" (rhymes with "dream")

* What is a meme?

* Memes are the basic building blocks of our minds and culture, in the same way that genes are the basic building blocks of biological life.

* Isn't memetics just a fancy name for _________ (fill in the blank with "cultural evolution", "behavioral psychology", "sociobiology", or anything else)? Why is this anything new?

* The breakthrough in memetics is in extending Darwinian evolution to culture. There are several exciting conclusions from doing that, one of which is the ability to predict that ideas will spread not because they are "good ideas", but because they contain "good memes" such as danger, food and sex that push our evolutionary buttons and force us to pay attention to them.

* Who invented memes?

* Oxford zoologist Richard Dawkins is credited with first publication of the concept of meme in his 1976 book The Selfish Gene.

* If memes control our thoughts and therefore our actions, what about free will?

* We continually understand more and more about how our bodies and minds work. We now know that trillions of organic nanomachines in the cells of our bodies work together to give us life. Neither that understanding nor the new understanding of our minds that memetics will give us should affect the philosophical question of free will.

* In Virus of the Mind, you seem to neglect truth as a main reason that memes replicate, focusing instead on psychological button-pushing, evangelism, and other non-obvious means. Why?

* First, the theoretical reason. Our minds evolved to support survival and reproduction in the ancestral environment (Stone Age). The kind of truth that would have aided that would have pertained to knowledge of terrain, seasons, and so on. These things are concrete and simple. Our society today is so complex that concrete and simple things that "make sense" are likely to out-compete "true" memes that are less appealing. Second, empirical evidence shows that students are getting worse and worse at knowledge tests.

* You talk a lot about living life in "Level 3." What does that mean?

* It means not just living consciously, but consciously choosing the memes I allow to program me. Read this.
17 posted on 05/17/2003 9:02:37 AM PDT by Helms (Californication Beyond California)
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To: freeperfromnj
Not just mosques either. The Islamic Societies have private schools cropping up fast too: http://www.msa-natl.org/resources/Schools.html
18 posted on 05/17/2003 9:06:00 AM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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To: freeperfromnj
sitrep
25 posted on 05/17/2003 9:19:06 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Oh, let's not forget the fascinating points that the AP's Wayne Parry forgot to mention about Dar Al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church:

Hanji Hanjour and a couple other 9/11 hijackers went there to make contacts for their fake Virginia ID's in the weeks before their attack on America.

The actual apartment address used on several of those ID's is a building that literally can be seen down the street (Rt. 7) running next to Dar Al-Hijrah.

Among the purported "engineers and doctors" now or formerly attending the oh-so-innocent Dar Al-Hijrah mosque would also be Mousa Abu Marzook (a Hamas leader who spent many years in Falls Church), and Abdurahman Alamoudi, who said at a White House rally that "We are all supporters of Hamas. I wish they added that I am also a supporter of Hezbollah." (Alamoudi lives just 1 1/2 miles down Rt. 7 from the mosque, in the same direction as the aforementioned apartments).

And then there's Samir Salah, who ran a branch of Al Taqwa ("Fear Of God") bank in the Bahams, headed a Herndon financial firm linked to SAAR, and was a director of Dar Al-Hijrah mosque. Al Taqwa bank is thought to have been a money laundering entity for Osama bin Ladin.

Then we have the probable attendance of Abdula bin Laden, Osama's brother and president of World Assembly of Muslim Youth in Annandale, Virginia (geographically, the Annandale town line is only a few hundred yards from Dar Al-Hijrah mosque). Several bin Laden's lived in Falls Church prior to 9/11.

And (as if you hadn't yet guessed it) Dar Al-Hijrah is a notorious, hardline Wahhabi mosque.

So despite the innocent family atmosphere attributed to Dar Al-Hijrah by the AP's Wayne Parry (reporter par excellance), it is in fact a nexus of hardcore Islamist Wahabbi terrorism in America.

26 posted on 05/17/2003 9:36:17 AM PDT by angkor
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In my neighborhood, Muslims are moving in, and even running for local offices as both Republicans & Democrats. Also, Muslim families are demanding school districts to be more accomodating to their religious beliefs such as allowing kids to wear Islamic garb, and urging teachers to focus on the global contributions of Islmic nations. Muslims are definitely changing our institutions.
30 posted on 05/17/2003 10:10:43 AM PDT by Kuksool
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American culture disintegrates and dissolves while we all pat ourselves on the back about how we are so open-minded and tolerant and appreciative of diversity..

....and WEAK!
33 posted on 05/17/2003 11:04:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (The Oklahoma kid laid dying in a women's wing, Just another indian biting dust)
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You take your moon god, you take your suicide bombers, you take your phony baloney prophet and get out of my country!
34 posted on 05/17/2003 12:42:20 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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