[Incorrigible]

"The Jewish movement in this country made people allergic to mention even a single word that could possibly be construed as anti-Jewish, and people don't even think about such words, much less speak them, now."

Unless you're a member of the Nation of Islam or the Democratic Party.

 

[w_over_w]

Leading Muslim organizations say it's time for Americans to stop using the phrase "Judeo-Christian" when describing the values and character that define the United States.

Yeah . . . well we'll just see about that.

Lucifer has always been lurking and operating in our nation under one true God . . . the enemy's presence is just more prevalent with Islam.

[TLBSHOW]

Agha Saeed, founder and chairman of the American Muslim Alliance, a political group headquartered in Fremont, Calif.

Other national Muslim groups supporting a change include the Council on American-Islamic Relations [CAIR], the Muslim American Society and the American Muslim Council.

The budding movement is largely unformed, and religion watchers question whether it will succeed. Still, the call for new terms shows that words carry huge symbolic importance for Muslims trying to find their role in America after Sept. 11 and the Iraq war.

"These are not just let's-make-you-feel-good words," Saeed said. "These are words that define how we're related to each other."

Others take offense, arguing that to alter the phrase "Judeo-Christian" is political correctness and revisionist history at its worst.

.......
Agha Saeed = Hillary's outreach and terrorist front groups


The American Muslim Alliance's June fund-raiser for Senate candidate Hillary Clinton was simply a culmination of her outreach to militant Islamic groups. Beyond its anti-Israeli postings on its Web site, the AMA's head, Agha Saeed, has openly sanctioned the use of "armed resistance" against Israel and declared that the "Zionist occupiers of Palestine can be beaten back." At its 1997 annual convention, the AMA distributed an article by S.A. Ahsani, head of the AMA's Texas chapter, denying the existence of "Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek." At AMA national conferences in 1997, 1998 and 2000, numerous speakers numerous speakers condemned the "Jewish and Zionist" lobbies and their "control" of the United States.

In the end, the issue is whether Mrs. Clinton has unwittingly enabled these groups to gain legitimacy. Clearly she is aware of the danger attending to associations with extremists. In January of this year, Mrs. Clinton's campaign criticized New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani--then a prospective Senate opponent--for sharing a dais in New York with Joerg Haider, the far-right Austrian head of the Freedom Party. In March, the Clinton campaign manager attacked the mayor for hiring fund-raiser Richard Viguerie--who Clinton aides pointedly noted, had raised money for Patrick Buchanan and had once praised David Duke.

Later, when Rick Lazio said he would be willing to accept an endorsement from the New York branch of the Reform Party, whose presidential candidate is Mr. Buchanan, Mrs. Clinton blasted Mr. Lazio: "I think his [Buchanan's] record--anti-Semitic comments, his record of intolerant and prejudicial remarks--are ones that I don't want to be associated with."

These are noble sentiments. If Mrs. Clinton is willing to denounce Messrs. Haider and Buchanan, why has she associated with groups that have espoused anti-Semitism and supported terrorism?
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1100/emerson.asp

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Allah is not the God of Abraham.

[goodnesswins]

Is this Affirmative Action for Muslims????? THIS country was based, NO FOUNDED, on Christian ideals....when they take that away from us, we are lost.

[RLK]

Has the United States Become Judeo-Christian-Islamic? ------------------

The United States has become nuts.

[Incorrigible]

"Islamic values are not only compatible with American values, they're almost identical. I personally believe the most Islamic country in the world is America, where we believe in freedom of religion, freedom of the press and equality of all."

I had to check and see if that quote was attributed to Baghdad Bob!

[Sender]

"What we call Western culture is in fact based on Muslim Middle East culture, but the average American doesn't know that"

Some of it, yes. Chopping off limbs and requiring hefty bags on women, no. Blowing ourselves up to take out our enemies, definitely not. Ameriku akbar!

[Gritty]

Part of the Islamic creed is lying is OK to promote Islam.

Why should what is said by Isamics in this article be any different than their usual pack of lies?

[Bikers4Bush]

The leading muslim organizations can go back to wherever it is they've come from and fix those places instead of trying to corrupt ours.

This country has been doing just fine without them and will continue to do so.

[pkjeff]

Why I Can Never Be a Muslim - message by Dr. Robert Reymond

Part 1 http://www.coralridge.org/BroadcastArchives.asp#585

Part 2 http://www.coralridge.org/BroadcastArchives.asp#586

[ChadGore]

That image makes me wretch in horror that muslims are still useing 911 to prostilitize their fair in the country while standing on the dead burned bodies of those who fell on 911.

[LiteKeeper]

Rememer the truth of the following:

"Islam is a religion in which [their] god requires you to send your son to die for him."

"Christianity is a faith in which God sent His Son to die for you."

[Technogeeb]

In addition, some argue that Islamic ideas helped shape the European West

This is true. If not for the threat of domination by the hordes of the Dark Lord Allah, the West might have never escaped the Dark Ages. Like the Black Plague, much good came from Islam's existence.

[PISANO]

Actually, IMHO the United States has become a RELIGION FREE ZONE. There is always talk about Judeo-Christian founding and principles and NOW it is PC to include Islam's faith, however any public utterences of faith are taboo and most often illegal.

[Luna]

I would agree to the Muslims being added only if the ACLU treats them as shabbily and censoriously as said ACLU treats Christian-Judeo values and beliefs.

[backhoe]

Better choices, they say, are "Judeo-Christian-Islamic" or "Abrahamic,"

Over my dead body.

[DannyTN]

"Estimates are disputed but range as high as 7 million

If I believed the statistics, I would have to be a gay islamist.

My understanding is that there is only about 1 million Muslims in the US. And this is only because of a stupid immigration policy that favored middle eastern countries.

The reason Judeo-Christian applies. Is not because there are 5 million Jews, but that Judeo-Christian can refer to the Christians whether there were any Jews or not. Christianity is the fulfillment of Jewish prophecies.

[F16Fighter]

...said the Rev. Ted Haggard of Colorado Springs, Colo., president of the National Association of Evangelicals: "What the Islamic community needs to make are positive contributions to culture and society so we can include them."

Does anyone know if 'page 1' been completed yet??

[rmlew]

What a load of BS.

Muslims are new members of teh Polity. They had nothing to do with the founding of the American Republic. We got nothing from them as far as our political beliefs, history, or culture.
The US was founded as a Protestant nation, at a time when Old-Testament structures were in vogue. Thus a case, but not a particularly compelling one, can be made to call us a Judeo-Christian country.
The US was a Christian nation. I'm not sure it is today, but it should be.

If simple existance of peoples in the Republic are to affect its trancedant nature, then why not include Hindus, Buddhists, Shintoists, Confuscians, Zoroastrians, Bahai, animists, Shamanists,.....

Finally, where teh heck are teh Muslims getting these numbers? There are fewer than 3 million of them in the US.

[weegee]

The Judeo-Christian description is in reference to the founding of this nation. Might as well add Scientoligists to the description of this nation.

The Judeo-Christian Bible was an important book in the lives of the people who founded this nation. The islamic faith works from a radically rewritten version of this text. The founding fathers did not read that document.