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Democrats....Bush Key on Assault Weapons
Associated Press - Las Vegas Sun.com ^
| May 14, 2003
| Jim Abrams
Posted on 05/14/2003 2:32:06 PM PDT by Godebert
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Unless Bush reverses his un-Constitutional and un-American position on this issue, he will not receive my vote. I'll vote Constitution Party again.
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:32:07 PM PDT
by
Godebert
To: Godebert
This is a firestorm issue, and one Bush needs to consider carefully before he commits. It can't hurt him politically to support it; he can't be trusted on gun issues as it is. But a White House rally behind Charles Schumer & Co. will end his appeal to the gun-owning Right. And it will force gun owners to choose their "conservatives" much more cautiously in the future.
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:37:15 PM PDT
by
IronJack
To: Godebert
Unless Bush reverses his un-Constitutional and un-American position on this issue, he will not receive my vote. I'll vote Constitution Party again. What an idiot. President Bush can't sign a bill that does not reach his desk. It won't pass the House. I would much rather have Bush in the White House than any of the alternatives.
Perhaps you like cutting off your nose to spite your face. In your case it might even be an improvement.
To: *bang_list
The gun grabber quotes are not balanced with those
from any pro-2A organization. AP crapola *bang...
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:40:17 PM PDT
by
SteveH
To: Godebert
The assualt weapons ban is popular amongst the mainstream. What we want here is a removal of the ban while Bush retains his approval ratings. Thus, Bush should voice support for removal of the ban and let Delay block the bill in the House. When Democrats cry for Bush to break the deadlock, Bush should fire back "Learn to respect the independence of the various branches of government." The net result: Assault weapon ban is removed, Bush remains popular with the people.
To: IronJack
This is a firestorm issue, and one Bush needs to consider carefully before he commits. Bears repeating.
I can assure the Republican Party that my vote will go elsewhere based merely on this issue.
Take heed Party lurkers!
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:42:49 PM PDT
by
GingisK
To: jagrmeister
correction: "voice support for continuation of the ban"
To: Godebert
"If the bill dies we will lay it at the president's doorstep," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y So will I; I'll vote for him, donate to his campaign and get all my friends to vote for Bush :)
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:44:03 PM PDT
by
Centurion2000
(We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
To: Paleo Conservative
"What an idiot. President Bush can't sign a bill that does not reach his desk. It won't pass the House. I would much rather have Bush in the White House than any of the alternatives." Sorry, but if Bush puts ANY PRESSURE FOR PASSAGE AT ALL on the Congress on this issue, I WILL NOT support him in the next election. I would rather have someone I "know" is the enemy than someone who I think is an ally that then stabs me in the back (see France).
To: Godebert
did Ari really say that? Keeping republicans feet to the fire is a 24 7 a day job if he did.
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:44:14 PM PDT
by
TLBSHOW
(the gift is to see the truth)
To: Centurion2000
So will I; I'll vote for him, donate to his campaign and get all my friends to vote for Bush :)
BUMP
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:44:47 PM PDT
by
TLBSHOW
(the gift is to see the truth)
To: Godebert; All
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:46:06 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(My Guns Protect Your Freedom...)
To: GingisK
It requires some sophistication to understand how the assault weapons ban can expire while Bush can support its continuation. It requires that you accept the fact that political dialogue is structured to meet an end and is used to mislead the public for its own benefit. Either you understand how the game is played or you don't.
To: Wonder Warthog
Bush should support the continuation of the ban.
Tom Delay should oppose the ban and let it expire.
That is how it will work and that will be a policy and political win.
To: Godebert
I hope the ban dies
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:47:59 PM PDT
by
The Wizard
(Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
To: jagrmeister
Bush should support the continuation of the ban.
Tom Delay should oppose the ban and let it expire.
That is how it will work and that will be a policy and political win.
Note:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/911085/posts? Washington Post article...
The Republican-controlled House will not renew the federal ban on Uzis and other semiautomatic weapons, a key leader said yesterday, dealing a significant blow to the campaign to clamp down on gun sales nationwide.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) said most House members are willing to let the ban expire next year. "The votes in the House are not there" to continue the ban, he told reporters.
His spokesman, Stuart Roy, said, "We have no intention of bringing it up" for a vote.
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:51:14 PM PDT
by
deport
To: The Wizard
They ought to start it in the Senate, at the bottom of the agenda. And force a real filibuster. Make the Dems decide between two sacred cows.
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:51:40 PM PDT
by
Ingtar
To: Godebert
You can tell by the quote from Emanuel that the dems have figured out Bush is playing this to screw 'em and take another issue off the table. They're scrambling to find a way to hold him responsible when this thing fails to pass. That's why Ari's putting forth this falderal about what a "strong message" Bush has already sent. What's gonna happen is this thing will die in Congress, the Dems will try to blame Bush he'll respond by criticizing them for making the bill unpassable, he'll then be able to stick them with their favorite charge (rolling back 8 years of "Clinton progress") and not only is this issue taken off the table the GOP gets the last laugh on it.
It's good to have a President that grock's politics again, it's like watching Lombardi coach.
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:52:53 PM PDT
by
discostu
(A cow don't make ham)
To: jagrmeister
"Bush should support the continuation of the ban. Tom Delay should oppose the ban and let it expire. That is how it will work and that will be a policy and political win." Re-read what I said. There is a whole world of difference between Bush "saying" he supports extension, and actively pressuring the Congress to pass it. If your scenario plays out, then I have no problem--but if Bush does ANY "armtwisting" in favor of extension, then he has LOST MY VOTE.
To: jagrmeister
It requires some sophistication to understand how the assault weapons ban can expire while Bush can support its continuation. It requires that you accept the fact that political dialogue is structured to meet an end and is used to mislead the public for its own benefit. Either you understand how the game is played or you don't. This was very well said, and should be repeated.
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posted on
05/14/2003 2:55:59 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
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