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U.S. Weapons team ends search [for WMDs] with no discovery
Independent ^ | May 12, 03 | Andrew Buncombe

Posted on 05/12/2003 10:37:03 AM PDT by churchillbuff

US weapons team ends its search with no discovery By Andrew Buncombe in Washington 12 May 2003

The team searching for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq is ending its operation without having found proof that Saddam Hussein had stocks of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.

It investigated numerous sites identified by US intelligence as those likely to harbour weapons of mass destruction (WMD) but has now all but accepted that it is unlikely to find any weapons. Operations are being wound up and a scaled-down unit called the Iraq Survey Group will take over.

The leader of the US Army's 75th Exploitation Task Force, Colonel Richard McPhee, said his team of biologists, chemists, computer experts and documents specialists arrived in Iraq believing the intelligence community's warning that Saddam had given "release authority" to those in charge of a chemical arsenal.

"We didn't have all those people in protective suits for nothing," he toldThe Washington Post. "[But if they planned to use those weapons] there had to have been something to use and we haven't found it. Books will be written on that in the intelligence community for a long time."

Saddam's alleged possession of such weapons was one of the central pretexts given by Washington and London for the war against Iraq. In a February presentation to the UN, Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, identified sites he said were producing WMD.

When George Bush made his declaration of victory aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln on 1 May, he said: "We've begun the search for hidden chemical and biological weapons and already know of hundreds of sites that will be investigated."

Some progress has been made. It was reported on Thursday that a team of experts searching for WMD had concluded that a trailer found near the city of Mosul in northern Iraq last month was a mobile biological weapons laboratory. The team admitted, however that other experts disagreed. Some officials claim that up to three such laboratories have been discovered although no biological or chemical agents have been found at any of them.

Yesterday, General Richard Myers, the chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, said WMD might still be in the hands of Iraqi special units.

"Were they full-deployed and could they have been brought to bear on us, or are they still perhaps out there somewhere in some sort of bunker and could have been used?" he said at the US regional headquarters in Qatar. "We are trying to run that one to the ground."

But those on the ground appear more sceptical. US central command started the war with a list of 19 priority suspected weapons sites. All but two have been searched without uncovering any evidence. A further 69 were identified as sites that might offer clues to the whereabouts of WMD. Of these, 45 have been searched without success.

Some experts believe that one of the problems has been that WMD search teams were held back for too long, allowing Iraqi forces to dismantle or destroy equipment. Others believe that the assessment that such weapons existed was wrong. One Defence Intelligence Agency official said: "We came to bear country and we came loaded for bear and we found that the bear was not here. The question was 'where are Saddam Hussein's chemical and biological weapons?' What is the question now? That is what we are trying to sort out."

The search for WMD will continue under the auspices of the Iraq Survey Group, which will also hunt for information about Saddam's regime. The White House has claimed this is a bigger unit than the task force. But officials admit that the number of staff hunting for weapons will be scaled back. 12 May 2003 10:34

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KEYWORDS: huntisnotover; iraqaftermath; mediabias; propaganda; stilllooking; trooprotation; wmd
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1 posted on 05/12/2003 10:37:03 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Have they ever searched those 3 ships doing a loop-de-loop in the Indian ocean?
2 posted on 05/12/2003 10:38:28 AM PDT by theDentist (So. This is Virginia.... where are all the virgins?)
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To: churchillbuff
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3 posted on 05/12/2003 10:40:35 AM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (In those days... Every man did that which was right in his own eyes.)
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To: churchillbuff
I know others have mentioned it before, but if he really didn't have these weapons Saddam was the biggest fool in the world. He could still be in power if he just provided the proof. I believe he did have weapons and they will be found sooner or later.
4 posted on 05/12/2003 10:49:47 AM PDT by ReaganRevolution (President Bush Rocks!)
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To: churchillbuff
If WMD isn't found in Iraq it's because SAddam had enough time to move it somewhere else or bury it deep. No one except Scott Ritter disputed Hussein had them and big quantitites of them, not even France, Russia or the United Neuters.

This subject, I'm afraid, isn't finished.

Prairie
5 posted on 05/12/2003 10:50:05 AM PDT by prairiebreeze ("Never have so many been so wrong about so many things"---Sec. Defense Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: churchillbuff
The entire article makes it sounds like we are giving up. That is, until you get to the last paragraph.

The search for WMD will continue under the auspices of the Iraq Survey Group, which will also hunt for information about Saddam's regime. The White House has claimed this is a bigger unit than the task force. But officials admit that the number of staff hunting for weapons will be scaled back.

And then we see that this is little more than troop rotation.

Actually, the US Army's 75th Exploitation Task Force was deployed in force because we needed to be prepared if we ran up against acres of barrels. Scaling back the number of troopes devoted to WMD investigation is prudent and demostrates our flexibility on the ground given that it appears the Iraquis had kept this stuff in the hiding places.

6 posted on 05/12/2003 10:50:22 AM PDT by Pete
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To: churchillbuff
Both Andrew Buncombe and his newspaper, the Independent have so often been demonstrated to be outright liars in articles posted on FR, that there is just one response to this article. If Buncombe and the Independent say this, it MUST be the opposite of the truth. (It is ironic that "buncombe" is an obscure but real word in the Enligh language that means elaborate, political lies.)

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, now up FR, "Brave New Moment."

7 posted on 05/12/2003 10:53:38 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Saddam has left the building. Heck, the building has left the building.")
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To: churchillbuff
Guess these guys scooped the world on this. Anyone seen anything that even remotely looks like this is true in whole or part?
8 posted on 05/12/2003 11:02:20 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Smokers are people too, most are good people. But Will Rogers never met me.)
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To: churchillbuff
Don't worry. They will send in the DEA. The DEA always finds what it is looking for. Even if they have to plant it.
9 posted on 05/12/2003 11:08:23 AM PDT by Lysander (My army can kill your army)
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To: ReaganRevolution
I know others have mentioned it before, but if he really didn't have these weapons Saddam was the biggest fool in the world. He could still be in power if he just provided the proof. I believe he did have weapons and they will be found sooner or later.

No way would he have remained in power. We were going in no matter what. No matter whether there were chemicals of mass destruction, no matter whether there was a strong tie to Al Queda. We were going in.

10 posted on 05/12/2003 11:08:29 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Congressman Billybob
The article text doesn't match the headline. The article implies they are still searching
11 posted on 05/12/2003 11:09:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: joesbucks
Exactly right. The WMD were a convenient pre-text.

I don't believe the Bushies LIED, exactly. But they did promise more than they KNEW. I think they really did believe that once we got inside Iraq and treasure trove of WMD would be found.

But they didn't really KNOW that Saddam had such weapons They did, however, feel certain enough to Gamble that he did.

What I fear (well, that's not exactly the right word) is that Saddam actually did decided to let his WMD programs atrophy until such time as the sanctions were lifted, figuring that they could easily and quickly be reconstituted.

12 posted on 05/12/2003 11:14:15 AM PDT by leftiesareloonie
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To: churchillbuff
This is an absolute lie.

They are STILL searching; in fact, over a thousand MORE inspectors have been sent over there in just the last week.
13 posted on 05/12/2003 11:15:39 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pete
The entire article makes it sounds like we are giving up

Which, of course, is exactly the impression the poster of this thread wanted to give.

14 posted on 05/12/2003 11:16:36 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: joesbucks
You think that we would have had a coalition if WMD were not the compelling reason for taking him out of power? We would have just gone in on our own to remove him?
15 posted on 05/12/2003 11:18:40 AM PDT by ReaganRevolution (President Bush Rocks!)
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To: CyberCowboy777
That is the remnabts of Bin ladens navy. Confidential sources have disclosed that Bin Laden has twenty ships plying the world and flying Panamanian, Liberian, and who knows what flags. Confidential sources report that they have to gain some recognition by going public with their confidentality in order to obtain financing for more confidential intelligence.
16 posted on 05/12/2003 11:19:21 AM PDT by meenie
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To: leftiesareloonie
I don't believe the Bushies LIED, exactly. But they did promise more than they KNEW. I think they really did believe that once we got inside Iraq and treasure trove of WMD would be found.

I think you're right. They were betting on the hunch WMD's would be found. But they did LIE, because they said they KNEW where they were. Remember when we were chastizing Blix over where he was searching and Blix was PO'd that if we knew where they were, then why wasn't he guided to them. We responded that it compromise our intelligence operatives. Either we out and out lied or our intelligence operatives had an agenda and used us. I'm a little surprised that with the sophisticated equipment we have in place to monitor that area we weren't better informed.

Either way, we don't look good.

17 posted on 05/12/2003 11:24:18 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Lysander
The "plant" suggestion comes from DU, showing the idiocy of the left. To believe that hundreds, if not thousands of people are in on the "plant" and part of the conspiracy is beyond the pale.
18 posted on 05/12/2003 11:24:38 AM PDT by oreolady (In spite of what the dims/media say, George Bush in a uniform is magnificant!)
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To: churchillbuff
Some experts believe that one of the problems has been that WMD search teams were held back for too long, allowing Iraqi forces to dismantle or destroy equipment.

Let's say you owned a 500,000,000 square foot house and had an illegal roach clip. The Police advertised for years that they were going to get a search warrant to look for it. After 2 years they sent in one person for two hours to search. Would they find anything??Use your imagination for this example, compare the size of Iraqq and the dozens of inspectors over months to this example and you'll find that in the house example the inspector could actually cover more ground as a percentage than the arms inspectors.

19 posted on 05/12/2003 11:28:22 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Poohbah; Grampa Dave
Not only that, but we haven't started to really put the screws on the bigwigs we have caught. A little sodium pentathol or Versed ought to work wonders in that regard.
20 posted on 05/12/2003 11:29:11 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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