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Lawsuit seeks to ban sale of Oreos to children in California, Nabisco taken to task
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/11/03 | Kim Severson

Posted on 05/11/2003 10:13:13 PM PDT by MikalM

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:42:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Oreo cookies should be banned from sale to children in California, according to a lawsuit filed by a San Francisco attorney who claims that trans fat -- the stuff that makes the chocolate cookies crisp and their filling creamy -- is so dangerous children shouldn't eat it.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bayarea; california; cookies; diet; fats; food; health; lawsuit; nutrition; oreo; sanfrancisco; science; thechildren
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To: Maven
Thanks!

Now. Any recipes using almond flour?
101 posted on 05/12/2003 8:23:50 PM PDT by FrogMom
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To: FrogMom
Thanks!

You're welcome.

Now. Any recipes using almond flour?

Sure! What do you want to make? I've got recipes for cookies, brownies, biscotti, cheesecake, coffeecake and more.

Last week, my mother took my orange-cranberry coffeecake recipe and converted it into some incredible lemon-blueberry muffins.

Maven
102 posted on 05/12/2003 8:50:40 PM PDT by Maven
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To: liberalnot
Knock off the personal attacks.
103 posted on 05/13/2003 4:54:58 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Maven
Isn't it wonderful to feel good - and eat good food while you're doing it? LOL!

YES!!! We haven't eaten pasta or potatoes in this house for months and bread only rarely. And processed foods? Forget about it. My husband has lost 65 pounds in the past year, and I had a baby in December (after losing 25 myself), all the baby weight was gone in 2 weeks and I have lost almost 10 more very gradually since then - can't go too crazy while nursing. Anyway, the bottom line is, I can't even imagine going back to eating the way we used to.

And yes, yay for my mom - she was starting to scare me, with her disregard for her type 2. She's been so frustrated for years, yo-yoing back and forth with weight and sugar, doing well for a while and then losing all her groung again. Now she's afraid to go off induction! :) She's experimenting with adding a couple carbs here and there to see how well she can keep things stabilized. I'll tell her what you said about 3 months, I'm sure she'll be happy to hear it.

Gotta go find a recipe for low-carb vegetable stuffing, I have two cornish game hens to work on for dinner! Thanks for the response.

104 posted on 05/13/2003 5:50:42 AM PDT by agrace (Tag line, you're it!)
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To: MikalM
But doctors and government researchers believe it is linked to several debilitating diseases and might be one of the worst ingredients in the American diet -- in part because we eat so much of it without knowing.

You can't argue with the health nazis on this one because they're right. Substitute the word "arsenic" for "trans fat" and the argument becomes crystal clear, as in "arsenic provides crispiness in an oreo cookie."

Trans fat works slower than arsenic, but it's deadly.

105 posted on 05/13/2003 6:01:51 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: RLK
I wonder how this stuff affects type two diabetics and people with triglyceride problems and lipidemia. Certain cookies knock me flat on my back.

Have you tried Atkins? It does wonders for people with type two diabetes and cholesterol problems. Check out the reviews of his book on Amazon.

106 posted on 05/13/2003 6:05:12 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: MediaMole
Nothing wrong with a little butter. No trans fat in real butter.

Exactly. There's nothing wrong with fat per se. It's the kind of fat. Eat all the nuts, avocadoes, butter, cheese, cream and steak you want. But don't touch any hydrogenated oils.

107 posted on 05/13/2003 6:09:23 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: MikalM
I don't give my kids stuff with transfat if I can help it. They get stuff with butter. I think the studies are very interesting. Lawsuit? Puke. Let the consumers decide.
108 posted on 05/13/2003 6:15:03 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: SamAdams76
Why can't they use honey instead of corn syrup? Or olive oil instead of palm or coconut oil? (Olive oil being very low in saturated fats.)

One reason only, money. Palm oil and coconut oil are cheap. (FYI, honey isn't much better for you than corn syrup).

Hydrogenated palm and coconut oil is used to keep chocolate bars, "creme" fillings and other processed foods from melting at room temperature and to keep them from going bad. The manufacturers are fully aware of how harmful these oils are.

On the other hand, plain palm and coconut oil isn't nearly as bad as hydrogenated palm and coconut oil.

Effects of Different Forms of Dietary Hydrogenated Fats on Serum Lipoprotein Cholesterol Levels

A study published in the June 24, 1999 issue the New England Journal of Medicine indicates that consuming products low in both saturated fatty acids and trans fatty acids has a beneficial effect on total blood cholesterol levels, especially levels of LDL cholesterol (low-density lipoprotein or "bad" cholesterol). Elevated levels of LDL cholesterol have been linked with an increased risk for heart attacks.

Fats and oils are mixtures of fatty acids. Trans fatty acids are created during the hydrogenation (addition of hydrogen) of vegetable oils. When these fatty acids are hydrogenated, they become less soft and less likely to become rancid, which increases the shelf life of perishable goods, such as snack foods and baked foods. Such products, as well as hardened margarines and fried fat foods, are major sources of trans fatty acids in the diet. Trans fatty acids also occur in small amounts in some animal fats. Examples of foods other than stick margarine that contain high levels of trans-fatty acids are commercially baked goods and fried fast food, especially french fries.

"This was a carefully designed study, with clear cut results, that confirms and adds to the accumulating body of evidence that suggests that trans fatty acids contribute to elevated levels of LDL cholesterol and appear to have other metabolic effects that may also increase risk for heart disease." says Ronald M. Krauss, M.D., American Heart Association spokesperson on nutrition, and his colleagues. Krauss is a Senior Scientist and head of the Molecular Medicine Department at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in Berkeley.

He adds that, "The good news is that there are many options currently available to both consumers and industry to reduce the amount of trans fatty and saturated acids in our diets. For example, semi-liquid margarine, soy bean oil, safflower oil, canola oil, corn oil, olive oil and safflower oil are all low in trans fatty acids and saturated fats,"

Current estimates of the average dietary intake in the U.S. population suggest that 12-15 percent of total calories are derived from saturated fatty acids, whereas only about 2-4 percent of total calories come from trans fatty acids.

During the study, eighteen men and eighteen women, over the age of 50, who had levels of LDL cholesterol greater than 130 mg/dl (moderately elevated) consumed a carefully controlled series of six diets over a period of the 36 days each. The individuals studied were all candidates for dietary intervention because elevated LDL cholesterol levels.

All of the diets provided during each 36-day period derived no more than 30 percent of total calories from fat. A key difference in each of the six diets was the type of spread that was used -- soybean oil, semi-liquid margarine, soft margarine, stick margarine or butter.

Both total cholesterol and LDL cholesterol levels in the blood were the lowest after the subjects had consumed the soybean oil and semi-liquid-margarine, and increased progressively after subjects consumed the soft-margarine, shortening and stick margarine and butter. The results were similar for both men and women.

An accompanying statement, written by scientists and physicians at the Harvard School of Public Health and Wageningen Center for Food Science in The Netherlands, notes that current U.S. regulations do not require the amount of trans fatty acid in a product to be included on food labels. They also note that fast foods are exempt from food labeling regulations.

"The debate about what changes might be needed with regard to U.S. food labels is ongoing and this editorial touches on the key areas," says Krauss. "For example, should the amount of trans-fatty acids in a product be included on food labels as a separate line, or should trans fatty acid content be combined with saturated fatty acid content on the label?

"In any event, consumers need to be provided information that will allow them to choose products with low content of trans fatty acids, and industry will need to continue efforts to reduce content of both trans fatty acids and saturated fats in the food supply," says Krauss.


109 posted on 05/13/2003 6:37:00 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Aquinasfan
Thanks for the detailed info. I can attest to the fact that my cholesterol went from 240 to 185 as a direct result of avoiding foods high in trans-fats (i.e. not eating processed supermarket foods). And my health and state of well-being are much improved. I say this only for the benefit of others who might wish to do the same.
110 posted on 05/13/2003 7:43:31 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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To: MikalM
The Caliban deems this important. What a bunch of twinkies!
111 posted on 05/13/2003 8:22:51 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Maven
Sure! What do you want to make? I've got recipes for cookies, brownies, biscotti, cheesecake, coffeecake and more.

I'll take whatever you have. This is perfect for me because I have celiac disease.

In order of priority:
1) brownies
2) choc chip cookie
3) cheesecake
4) coffee cake.

112 posted on 05/13/2003 8:24:36 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: agrace
YES!!! We haven't eaten pasta or potatoes in this house for months and bread only rarely. And processed foods? Forget about it.

Low carbing makes grocery shopping very simple - just go around the periphery of the market! LOL!

My husband has lost 65 pounds in the past year, and I had a baby in December (after losing 25 myself), all the baby weight was gone in 2 weeks and I have lost almost 10 more very gradually since then - can't go too crazy while nursing.

Yay for hubby!!!

My father started low carbing last July, and he's lost about 75 pounds so far. He says it's the easiest thing he's ever done. My mother has lost about 50 pounds - she's just a couple away from her wedding weight! For me - I've dropped about 190 pounds over 5 1/2 years.

Nursing moms should stick to a Sugar Busters-type diet - you don't want to be in ketosis.

Anyway, the bottom line is, I can't even imagine going back to eating the way we used to.

Me, either. I've had "off" days - and always felt so bad that I went back on plan very quickly.

Now she's afraid to go off induction! :) She's experimenting with adding a couple carbs here and there to see how well she can keep things stabilized. I'll tell her what you said about 3 months, I'm sure she'll be happy to hear it.

She doesn't have to go off induction, as long as she feels good eating at those levels. If she wants to add in more carbs, it should be very gradual - and she should check to see what foods may cause blood sugar spikes.

Gotta go find a recipe for low-carb vegetable stuffing, I have two cornish game hens to work on for dinner! Thanks for the response.

A wonderful person named Tina MacDonald has compiled the gazillion or so recipes that have been posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb over the years. You can probably find what you're looking for there:

Recipes from the Wonderful Cooks at alt.support.diet.low-carb

Maven
113 posted on 05/13/2003 8:43:46 PM PDT by Maven
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To: Aquinasfan
I'll take whatever you have. This is perfect for me because I have celiac disease.

People with celiac disease, IBS, Crohn's, etc., often do very well on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. The website is here:

http://www.scdiet.org/

I'll Freepmail you the recipes, though.

Maven
114 posted on 05/13/2003 8:46:18 PM PDT by Maven
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To: MikalM
All parents that have children in the public schools should file a class action lawsuit against the state for supplying dangerous and deadly food to their kids in the school lunchroom. All low income parents who have their kids on the free or reduced lunch program should also sue the state for attempted murder. They know all that govt. cheese and milk is full of obese causing fat. The state makes the menu of food that is served and is therefore responsible for their eventual death.
115 posted on 05/13/2003 8:51:42 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage
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To: timestax
ping
116 posted on 05/13/2003 10:24:01 PM PDT by timestax
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