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Homosexual Agenda Platforms from 1972 - 2000 [plus other resources]
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Posted on 05/08/2003 2:55:08 PM PDT by Polycarp

THE 1972 GAY RIGHTS PLATFORM
(Formulated in Chicago, Illinois.)

FEDERAL:

1. Amend all federal Civil Rights Acts, other legislation and government controls to
prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations and public
services. (1972 Federal-1)
2. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting the military from excluding
for reasons of their sexual orientation, persons who of their own volition desire entrance
into the Armed Services; and from issuing less-than-fully-honorable discharges for
homosexuality; and the upgrading to fully honorable all such discharges previously
issued, with retroactive benefits. (1972 Federal-2)
3. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the federal
civil service because of sexual orientation, in hiring and promoting; and prohibiting
discriminations against homosexuals in security clearances. (1972 Federal-3)
4. Elimination of tax inequities victimizing single persons and same-sex couples. (1972
Federal-4)
5. Elimination of bars to the entry, immigration and naturalization of homosexual aliens.
(1972 Federal-5)
6. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by
Gay women and men, presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and
lifestyle as a viable alternative to heterosexuality. (1972 Federal-6)
7. Appropriate executive orders, regulations and legislation banning the compiling,
maintenance and dissemination of information on an individual's sexual preferences,
behavior, and social and political activities for dossiers and data banks. (1972 Federal-7)
8. Federal funding of aid programs of gay men's and women's organizations designed to
alleviate the problems encountered by Gay women and men which are engendered by an
oppressive sexist society. (1972 Federal-8)
9. Immediate release of all Gay women and men now incarcerated in detention centers,
prisons and mental institutions because of sexual offense charges relating to victimless
crimes or sexual orientation; and that adequate compensation be made for the physical
and mental duress encountered; and that all existing records relating to the incarceration
be immediately expunged. (1972 Federal-9)




STATE:

1. All federal legislation and programs enumerated in Demands 1, 6, 7, 8, and 9 above
should be implemented at the State level where applicable. (1972 State-1)
2. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting private sexual acts involving consenting persons;
equalization for homosexuals and heterosexuals for the enforcement of all laws. (1972
State-2)
3. Repeal all state laws prohibiting solicitation for private voluntary sexual liaisons; and
laws prohibiting prostitution, both male and female. (1972 State-3)
4. Enactment of legislation prohibiting insurance companies and any other state-regulated
enterprises from discriminating because of sexual orientation, in insurance and in
bonding or any other prerequisite to employment or control of one's personal demesne.
(1972 State-4)
5. Enactment of legislation so that child custody, adoption, visitation rights, foster
parenting, and the like shall not be denied because of sexual orientation or marital status.
(1972 State-5)
6. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting transvestism and cross-dressing. (1972 State-6)
7. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent. (1972 State-7)
8. Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into
a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless
of sex or numbers. (1972 State-8)

THE 1987 MARCH ON WASHINGTON



Explanation: The demands of the marchers come from brochures and pamphlets printed either by the national march office or its local committees. Actual demands are in bold print; underneath are quotes taken from an eight-page official statement, which elaborates on the demands.



1. The legal recognition of lesbian and gay relationships.

"Changes must be made in the courts and in the legislatures to provide homosexual couples the same privileges and benefits as heterosexuals who commit themselves to similar relationships. Changes must also be made in public opinion so that society recognizes and celebrates the diversity in family relationships."



The changes sought: rights of inheritance, visitation and custody rights, insurance rights, parenting and adoption rights. Also listed under this demand is a call for "social services for lesbian and gay youth [to] be greatly augmented." The March on Washington's steering committee demands that government-funded alternative housing, foster care, counseling, and legal aid be provided for homosexual youth.



In addition, the statement calls for increased "availability of safe sex information and health care services for lesbian and gay youth, sexuality and anti-homophobic curriculum in the schools, access to lesbian and gay publications in public and school libraries, and freedom to participate in related school activities."



2. The repeal of all laws that make sodomy between consenting adults a crime.

"Like Jim Crow laws of the American South which sanctioned and promoted racism, sodomy laws give the government's stamp of approval to individual people's hatred of lesbian and gay people. To single out lesbian and gay people for special prosecutorial attention stigmatizes all who are gay and lesbian whether or not they are ever arrested or charged with sodomy."



3. A Presidential order banning anti-gay discrimination by the Federal Government.

This refers to an Executive Order banning discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in federal employment, the military, federally-contracted private employment, and all federally-funded programs. "Eliminating employment discrimination based solely on sexual orientation in the government sector would send a signal to the rest of the country that this discrimination is immoral and should be illegal."



4. Passage of the Congressional lesbian and gay civil rights bill.

"The government should provide protection from discrimination based on sexual orientation in employment, public accommodations and education just as protection is provided on race, creed, color, sex, or national origin."



"The government should ensure all public education programs include programs designed to combat lesbian/gay prejudice ... Institutions that discriminate against lesbian and gay people should be denied tax exempt status and federal funding."



5. An end to discrimination against people with AIDS, ARC, HIV positive status, or those perceived to have AIDS.

Massive increases in funding for AIDS education, research and patient care. Money for AIDS, not for war. They demand that the Federal government fund "a massive AIDS education and prevention program that is explicit, culturally sensitive, lesbian and gay affirming and sex positive ... The government must provide safe sex education to all youth."



"Compassionate, comprehensive health care services must be available for patients without regard to ability to pay ... There must be a complete federal funding of all health and social services for all people with AIDS/ARC ... The federal government must underwrite and insure all research for a cure and a vaccine. Funding for these programs must come from the military budget, not already existing appropriations in the social services budget."



6. Reproductive freedom, the right to control our own bodies, and an end to sexist oppression.

"All people must have access to birth control ... Those who wish must have the right to artificial insemination by donor. Public and private institutions should support parenting by lesbian or gay couples ... All people must have access to free abortions and contraceptives on demand regardless of age." The march also called for passage of the Equal Rights Amendment.



7. An end to racism in this country and apartheid in South Africa.

"As members of the lesbian and gay movement, we too are affected by rising racism and sexism which oppresses People of Color and women; thereby the liberation of lesbians and gay is intricately linked to the struggle against racism, sexism and anti-Semitism. We realize that none of us are free until we are all free. We, therefore, call upon all of our sisters and brothers to actively confront racism and sexism on all levels both within our movement, and in the larger society. We demand an end to racist and sexist oppression. We demand an end to all social, economic, judicial and legal oppression of lesbians and gays, and people of every race, gender, class, ethnicity, faith, political ideology, transgenderal orientation and sexual orientation."

PLATFORM OF THE 1993 MARCH ON WASHINGTON FOR LESBIAN, GAY, AND BI EQUAL RIGHTS AND LIBERATION



Action Statement Preamble to the Platform



The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender movement recognizes that our quest for social justice fundamentally links us to the struggles against racism and sexism, class bias, economic injustice and religious intolerance. We must realize if one of us is oppressed we all are oppressed. The diversity of our movement requires and compels us to stand in opposition to all forms of oppression that diminish the quality of life for all people. We will be vigilant in our determination to rid our movement and our society of all forms of oppression and exploitation, so that all of us can develop to our full human potential without regard to race, religion, sexual orientation/identification, identity, gender and gender expression, ability, age or class. (April 25, 1993)





PLATFORM DEMANDS AND RELATED ITEMS



1. We demand passage of a Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender civil rights bill and an end to discrimination by state and federal governments including the military; repeal of all sodomy laws and other laws that criminalize private sexual expression between consenting adults.



Passage of "The Civil Rights Amendment Act of 1991" (HR1430 & S574).

Repeal of Department of Defense directive 1332.14.

Repeal of laws prohibiting sodomy, cross-gender expression (dress codes) or non- coercive sexual behavior between adults.

Amendment of the Code of Federal Regulations to recognize same-sex relationships.

Passage of the Equal Rights Amendment.

Implementation of, funding for and enforcement of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1991.

Passage and implementation of graduated age-of-consent laws.



2. We demand massive increase in funding for AIDS education, research, and patient care; universal access to health care including alternative therapies; and an end to sexism in medical research and health care.



The provision of responsive, appropriate health care for people with disabilities, deaf and hard of hearing people.

Revision of the Centers for Disease Control definition of AIDS to include infections particular to women.

Implementation of the recommendation of the National AIDS Commission immediately.

A massive increase in funding for AIDS education, research and care -- money for AIDS, not for war. This money should come from the defense budget, not existing social services.

An increase in funding and research to provide an independent study of HIV infection in women, People of Color, Bisexuals, Heterosexuals, children, and women to women transmission.

Access to anonymous testing for HIV.

No mandatory HIV testing.

A cure for AIDS.

The development and legalization of a national needle exchange program.

Free substance abuse treatment on demand.

The re-definition of sexual re-assignment surgeries as medical, not cosmetic, treatment.

The provision of appropriate medical treatment for all transgendered people in prisons and hospitals.

An increase in funding and research for chronic illness, including breast ovarian, and other cancers particular to women.

The right of all people with chronic illness, including HIV/AIDS, to choices in medical treatment as well as the right to end such treatment.



3. We demand legislation to prevent discrimination against Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals and Transgendered people in the areas of family diversity, custody, adoption and foster care and that the definition of family includes the full diversity of all family structures.



The recognition and legal protection of the whole range of family structures.

An end to abuse and exploitation of and discrimination against youth.

An end to abuse and exploitation of and discrimination against older/old people.

Full implementation of the recommendations contained in the report of the Health and Human Services Task Force on Youth Suicide.

Recognition of domestic partnerships.

Legalization of same-sex marriages.



4. We demand full and equal inclusion of Lesbians, gays, Bisexuals and Transgendered people in the educational system, and inclusion of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender studies in multicultural curricula.



Culturally inclusive Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgendered Studies program; and information on abortion, AIDS/HIV, childcare and sexuality at all levels of education.

Establishment of campus offices and programs to address Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender students' special needs.

The ban of all discriminatory ROTC programs and recruiters from learning institutions.

An end to discrimination at all levels of education.



5. We demand the right to reproductive freedom and choice, to control our own bodies, and an end to sexist discrimination.



The right to control our bodies.

Unrestricted, safe and affordable alternative insemination.

An end to sterilization abuse.

That access to safe and affordable abortion and contraception be available to all people on demand, without restriction and regardless of age.

That access to unbiased and complete information about the full range of reproductive options be available to all people, regardless of age.



6. We demand an end to racial and ethnic discrimination in all forms.



Support for non-racist policies and affirmative action.

An end to institutionalized racism.

Equal economic opportunity and an end to poverty.

Full reproductive rights, improvement of pre-natal services, availability of alternative insemination for Lesbians and Bisexual women of color.

Repeal of all 'English Only' laws and restore and enforce bilingual education.

Repeal all discriminatory immigration laws based on race and HIV status.

A commitment to ending racism, including internalized racism, sexism and all forms of religious and ethnic oppression in our communities and in this country.

An end to the genocide of all the indigenous peoples and their cultures.

Restoration of the self-determination of all indigenous people of the world.



7. We demand an end to discrimination and violent oppression based on actual or perceived sexual orientation/identification, race, religion, identity, sex and gender expression, disability, age, class, AIDS/HIV infection.



An end to anti-Semitism.

An end to sexist oppression.

An end to discrimination against people with disabilities, deaf and hard of hearing people.

An end to discrimination based on sexual orientation in all programs of the Boy Scouts of America.

An end to economic injustice in this country and internationally.

An end to discrimination against prisoners with HIV/AIDS.

An end to discrimination against people with HIV/AIDS, and those perceived as having HIV/AIDS.

An end to consideration of gender dysphoria as a psychiatric disorder.

An end to hate crimes including police brutality, rape and bashing.

An end to censorship.

The Millennium March on Washington for Equality Agenda

April 30, 2000



One of the primary objectives of the Millennium March is to rally the GLBT community around a common political agenda. However, the process by which that agenda is established has been the subject of much controversy, and there is no single set of priorities about which all March participants agree. Here is a brief update on some of the issues most frequently proposed to be part of the March agenda:



Hate Crimes Legislation



Hate crimes laws provide harsher sentences for violent crimes motivated by bias based on gender, ethnicity, religion, or physical disability. In 22 states and Washington, D.C., sexual orientation is also a protected category. But the federal Hate Crimes Prevention Act is stalled in Congress -- partly because it includes protection for gay men and lesbians.



Right to Marry



It is not possible for gay or lesbian couples to get married legally anywhere in the United States. But there has been significant progress toward meaningful civil unions in recent months. Vermont's House and Senate passed a law that would extend many of the rights of marriage to same-sex couples. And the rabbis of Reform Judaism voted in March to recognize and conduct same-sex unions in their synagogues. However, the U.S. Congress and 31 states have passed "Defense of Marriage" acts that attempt to permanently restrict marriage to opposite-sex couples.



Employment Non-Discrimination



Although 11 states and many cities outlaw job discrimination based on sexual orientation, the vast majority of gay men and lesbians can be fired because of their sexuality. The federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act was voted down by the Senate in 1996 by a narrow 50-49 margin and never made it to the floor of the House. House Minority leader Dick Gephardt, D-MO, has promised to introduce it if Democrats retake control of the House, and Al Gore has pledged his support. George W. Bush opposes ENDA as "special treatment."



Military Service



Until the 1993 passage of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," gay men and lesbians were officially banned from the U.S. Armed Forces. Now they are only excluded if they are open about their sexuality. Most reports have concluded that DADT has worsened harassment for gay and lesbian servicemembers. Al Gore, both Clintons, and many prominent Democrats now believe that DADT has failed and that gay men and lesbians should be allowed to serve openly and equally.



Lesbian Health Issues



Historically, the practice of medicine has been based on an understanding of male anatomy. Women's health was an early, pressing concern of the feminist movement, and in the past decade, lesbians have organized to focus attention on their own specific health needs. Lesbians are less likely to seek health care (especially gynecological exams) than other women, and they are at higher risk for breast, cervical and ovarian cancers because they are less likely to have children by age 30. A 1999 study by the National Academy of Science concluded that extensive research into lesbian health is still desperately needed.



AIDS / HIV



HIV has not been receiving as much attention from the gay and lesbian community as it once did. Recently introduced drugs have greatly extended the life expectancies of HIV-positive people -- at least those who can afford the medications. Funding for AIDS research continues to be approved each year by Congress, but many believe the money is insufficient. Outside the gay and lesbian community, the biggest area of concern is Africa, where HIV prevention and treatment are still woefully inadequate.



LGBT People of Color



Misunderstood by both those who share their skin color and those who share their sexual preference, LGBT people of color -- while always judged first and foremost by race -- often feel caught between two worlds. The controversy over lack of diversity surrounding this March on Washington proved that this double exclusion has not gone away.



Adoption Rights



In every state except Florida, it is legal for gay men or lesbians to adopt children. Until 1990, however, only one parent was typically recognized by the government. Now about half of the states allow "second parent adoptions" -- the granting of joint parental responsibility to two unmarried people. There is no federal legislation on the issue, though some organizations are challenging gay adoption bans as unconstitutional.



LGBT Aging Issues



Gay culture has always privileged youth, but life goes on well past the hedonistic twenties and thirties. As the population in general is living longer, so are we. Senior gays and lesbians face unique challenges, both legal -- such as rights of succession -- and social, such as meeting people and growing older without the support of children.



LGBT Youth Issues



Gay and lesbian adolescents and teens have always been one of the most vulnerable groups to anti-gay prejudice. They are at a higher risk for suicide and are believed to have higher rates of drug and alcohol abuse. However, an increasing number of gay teens are coming out early in life and are fighting to make their schools a safe place for their peers. Of particular note has been the increasing number of gay-straight alliances formed in high schools -- a move that has received praise from many teachers' organizations, but that has drawn criticism from "pro-family" groups. At least one school district has banned extracurricular student groups altogether, since barring gay-straight alliances alone would be considered discriminatory.



Overturning Anti-GLBT Laws



The passage of California's anti-same-sex marriage Knight Initiative has galvanized the gay community to work against homophobic legislation across the country. The biggest priorities currently are similar "Defense of Marriage" laws in 31 states, as well as Florida and Utah's laws that create obstacles for gay families.



Right to Privacy/Choice



Many gay men and lesbians see a connection between reproductive freedom and gay rights. Both are based on the principle that the government should not -- and indeed cannot, because of the constitutional right to privacy -- pass laws that interfere in personal sexual and reproductive choices.



Global GLBT Issues



The United States falls somewhere in the middle of the spectrum with respect to gay rights. Many countries - most notably, western European nations and Australia -- are considered more progressive socially and politically on gay issues. Gay and lesbian activists are working on strengthening connections among countries to move the agenda along on a global scale.



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To: Luis Gonzalez
Roger that! The woman was 'fullsome', could we say?
141 posted on 05/10/2003 12:10:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
fullsome = fulsome ... actually.
142 posted on 05/10/2003 12:11:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: savagesusie
"Since you seem so clever, "Qwerty","

Why thank you, "SavageSusie".

"then you know about the brainwashing of even preschoolers that has been going on in the schools starting with the "Heather Has Two Mommies" book and some inane "daddies" book."

How many preschools read that book to their kids? I don't know of any public pre-schools, so it would be private schools reading HHTM anyway. Ultimately, most people who buy the book are homosexuals who have kids.. and I don't see anything wrong with that.

"(Of course, you probably think they are aimed at teenagers)"

What an odd thought to attribute to me.

"I do have a problem with the gay agenda since most of it consists of outright lies"

Please outline the lies.

"and talks about behavior that is not only dangerous but against nature's laws."

If homosexuality violated nature's laws, then it wouldn't be possible. Like jumping out of windows and falling up.

"They do not include information about all the syphilis and other dangerous infections when one plays with fecal material."

Wait.. are you saying that it's GLAAD's responsibility to put out warning labels on homosexual activity? It isn't.

Also, and I can't stress this enough.. heterosexuals engage in anal sex as well. There is no sexual act that homosexuals engage in that heterosexuals do not engage in as well.

"My young children had a "natural" aversion to excretions and it is normal since it prevents infections."

Actually, kids learn their aversions mostly. That's why young kids have to be watched so that they don't put bugs, cat poop, oleander, etc. in their mouths.

"If you start telling young children that something is "right" or "good" that is disgusting and logically so"

If you start telling children that something is "wrong" or "bad" and they end up homosexual, then you've done them a disservice. Or possibly they have homosexual parents. It's wrong to have public schools imparting value judgements on homosexuality or heterosexuality. Trust me, people grow up and need no encouragement whatsoever to seek out sex.

You want to teach your kids about how icky homosexuals are, fine.. teach them that at home.

"then you are failing to teach logic, an important skill for mathematics, etc., don't you think?"

No I don't.

"Let's just say I want my boys to be good in math--that is not too much to ask, I hope. And just WHAT is school for anyway."

I agree.

"Parents in Marin, CA had no clue to the gay agenda foisted on their kids (middle school) last year until AFTER the program was already presented"

I have no idea what was presented, or whether I agree with it. I'm not familiar with what goes on in Marin County.

"that is where that Taliban rat boy came from--guess his father had run off with a boyfriend"

Don't try to tie "homosexuality" in with some nut from Marin County. Is there any bad thing in this world that you don't believe has had some sort of direct link to homosexuality?

143 posted on 05/10/2003 1:56:27 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Boot Hill
"Yuck...that's waaaaay more information than I need."

What information did you get from that sentence?

"Since you admit to participating in such degeneracy"

What degeneracy did I admit to? All my post revealed was that I am a lesbian with a girlfriend.. relatively common knowledge in these threads.

"my question for you is: What are you doing on a conservative website?"

I'm a conservative.

"Troll? Disruptor? Or simply trying to spread that disease as far as you can?"

Spread what disease?

I'm going to go on the assumption for a minute that you think lesbianism is a disease. I disagree with the premise, but... Do you think anyone reading this thread just decided to try lesbianism because of my post?

144 posted on 05/10/2003 2:00:44 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Qwerty
  "I am a lesbian with a girlfriend...I'm a conservative."

No, you are not a conservative, not in any sense or meaning of the word. But from your own sick admissions, you are a degenerate pervert. Your presence here can only be explained as being a disruptor. Crawl back in your hole.

Leave.   Now.

145 posted on 05/10/2003 3:54:49 PM PDT by Boot Hill (FRANCE: The smegma under the foreskin of civilization.)
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To: Qwerty
"If homosexuality violated nature's laws, then it wouldn't be possible. Like jumping out of windows and falling up."

Such FLAWED logic!--the spincter is made to eject matter never to ingest==just because you "can" do something that is against physics does not mean it is natural. Do you reject the medical definition of the sphincter muscle?

Another thing...I didn't even KNOW about what homosexuals did nor did I care until they started to discuss their abnormal practices to my children. I do not know anyone in prison except a homosexual who had wanted to "spend time" with my boys-my "natural instincts" told me "no" and sure enough he had been doing a couple of boys from a divorced family where they lacked a "dad" (but he was SO nice!). The boys took him to court when they turned 18 and he was sentenced to only 6 years.

I disagree with you about heterosexuals performing "all" types of sexual practice. I alone prove that you are wrong.

There are "public" preschools--you are wrong--like head start, etc...and all are mandated by the bills out of congress to "represent gays" by placing their "approved" literature in all public school libraries. Some classrooms mandate that the teachers read certain "gay" books to their Kindergarteners---Massachusetts is one state that does. Concepts (pagan) that are against parent's religion should never be allowed in schools--just as religious material is not (paganism is a religion).

How many kids like the smell of public bathrooms? Or their own bowel movement? By the time they are three they are "naturally" disgusted with the smell of feces and the smell for a biological reason that you want to deny. Try looking at fecal matter under the microscope. Are you trying to tell me it is "natural" to play around with fecal material?...as for small children eating feces--Few do but it is usually because of some mineral deficiency if they do---(alas--something ABnormal--sorry, that word again).
Are you also trying to tell me that as a mother it is "unnatural" for me to discourage an infant from playing with feces? If you think it is, then you are truly sick and I do not care how you think, much less what you say.

Have a nice mother's day!



146 posted on 05/10/2003 5:02:25 PM PDT by savagesusie (An Ann Coulter fan!)
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To: Qwerty
"Wait.. are you saying that it's GLAAD's responsibility to put out warning labels on homosexual activity?

YOU BETCHA!

That is where the "truth" comes in....yes, when they advocate a lifestyle they ALWAYS need to include the risks! We are talking about EDUCATION not indoctrination. To only give WARPED onesided views on a topic is not only dishonest and unintellectual, it should never be condoned in an institution of "learning".
147 posted on 05/10/2003 5:17:05 PM PDT by savagesusie (An Ann Coulter fan!)
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To: Polycarp
The perverted attacks on Santorum, over words he did not say look more like the agenda of making HOW and WITH WHOM one chooses to have "SEX" a civil right.

This perverted attack also sets the political table making it "not" PC to discuss or question ones lifestyle choices, like HILLARY.
148 posted on 05/10/2003 5:30:35 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Boot Hill
"Leave. Now."

I was wrong about you. I can see now that you're funny.

149 posted on 05/10/2003 9:22:12 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: savagesusie
"Such FLAWED logic!--the spincter is made to eject matter never to ingest==just because you "can" do something that is against physics does not mean it is natural. "

Homosexuality is not defying the laws of physics. Ask around if you don't believe me.

Logically, anything that occurs naturally, even things abhorrent to you, are natural.

Homosexuals discussing sexual practices with your son are extremely out of line. That is NOT what I am defending.

"I disagree with you about heterosexuals performing "all" types of sexual practice. I alone prove that you are wrong."

That is not what I said. What I said was that EVERY sexual act committed by homosexuals has been committed by heterosexuals as well. What you personally do not do proves nothing.

Assuming that preschools are mandated to "represent" gays, I don't see anything wrong with it as long as the information isn't sexual in nature.

"Are you trying to tell me it is "natural" to play around with fecal material?"

Do you think it's "unnatural" when children do it? I think playing with feces is very messy and unhygienic and that's why I don't do it. Do I think adults should play with feces? No. Do I think adults can engage in anal sex if they wish? Yes.

150 posted on 05/10/2003 9:40:53 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: savagesusie
"That is where the "truth" comes in....yes, when they advocate a lifestyle they ALWAYS need to include the risks!"

You're wrong. Homosexuality in and of itself is as safe as heterosexuality. Promiscuity for anyone is dangerous, sex is always a risk.... for anyone. I doubt you find many people who don't know this already. It isn't GLAAD's mission to educate people about the risks of sex, any more than it is hollywood's mission to educate people about the risks of sex in romantic comedies.

"To only give WARPED onesided views on a topic is not only dishonest and unintellectual, it should never be condoned in an institution of "learning". "

What makes you think they're giving one sided views? Are they bashing heterosexuals or something?

151 posted on 05/10/2003 9:46:56 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Qwerty
I would not include perverted lifestyles into any school curricula. What is the point unless you are trying to pressure your "captive" audience into thinking a certain way about a subject that should be private and between parents and their children. The fact that the schools are trying to sexualize children and usurp the role of parent is disgusting and that is the intent of the "diversity" and "tolerance" crowd which is trying to desensitize children and confuse them. They also hate religion because it teaches "to judge" which is crucial to survival--another necessary piece of logic. Schools do not have the right to demean parent's religion which the gay agenda does.
152 posted on 05/10/2003 10:11:15 PM PDT by savagesusie (An Ann Coulter fan!)
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To: savagesusie
"I would not include perverted lifestyles into any school curricula."

Well it depends on what is included. Are you talking about sex? No, that shouldn't be in there. Are you talking about people coming from different kinds of families? Seems more pertinent.

153 posted on 05/10/2003 10:13:40 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Qwerty
You are advocating social engineering in the schools. Pavlov would be proud of you. Sex should not be discussed in an elementary school. It didn't happen when I went to school and funny thing--I did not have sex while a teenager nor did I give birth to kids out-of-wedlock. Oh, and funny thing--I never had any syphilis, herpes, genital warts, etc., that seem to be a grave problem for the 70's, 80's and 90's TEENAGERS.....since ALL the "sex education", "diversity" and "tolerance"was introduced into the school system. All that cr*p is social engineering and has nothing to do with education. In fact, it undermines education (proved by test scores) and the very word--LOGIC!
154 posted on 05/10/2003 10:36:43 PM PDT by savagesusie (An Ann Coulter fan!)
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To: savagesusie
"Sex should not be discussed in an elementary school. "

We agreed on that. They aren't discussing sex. Heather has two mommies is not about sex.

Whatever diseases you did or did not get (I've never had any either, nor been pregnant, and I'm 25) doesn't prove anything about social engineering.

155 posted on 05/10/2003 10:40:36 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Qwerty
"You're wrong. Homosexuality in and of itself is as safe as heterosexuality."

YOU ARE WRONG! This is the lie that is taught in the schools! The homosexual act is NOT as safe--ask a proctologist.

156 posted on 05/10/2003 10:49:41 PM PDT by savagesusie (An Ann Coulter fan!)
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To: savagesusie
"YOU ARE WRONG! This is the lie that is taught in the schools! The homosexual act is NOT as safe--ask a proctologist."

Oh yes? A proctologist will tell me that, for instance, lesbian sex is more dangerous than heterosexual sex?

157 posted on 05/10/2003 10:50:35 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: savagesusie
I suppose in the interest of fairness, you should be posting that women should be lesbian, since it has a lower incidence of STD's than heterosexuality. Right?
158 posted on 05/10/2003 10:51:20 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Qwerty
"Heather has two Mommies" is a lie....that Heather can actually have two mothers is a biological lie to be specific.

Not even touching upon the moral fact that a child deserves to have both a mother and father to grow up in an optimal environment since the world consists of both men and women.

Lies confuse children and that is why truth should be the focus at any school.
159 posted on 05/10/2003 10:58:48 PM PDT by savagesusie (An Ann Coulter fan!)
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To: savagesusie
""Heather has two Mommies" is a lie....that Heather can actually have two mothers is a biological lie to be specific. "

Can you have stepparents? Yes. So what's the lie?

"Lies confuse children and that is why truth should be the focus at any school. "

Yes. And it is. School isn't one big homo indoctrination exercise.

160 posted on 05/10/2003 11:02:02 PM PDT by Qwerty
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