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Cop takes 'midnight photos' of teacher's classroom
Times Argus ^ | David Delcore

Posted on 05/06/2003 9:35:22 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

BARRE – John Mott and Tom Treece have at least one thing in common. Make that two.

Both men think they have been unfairly accused and, if you believe their critics, both have had a chilling impact on students at Spaulding High School.

Mott is the Barre Town police officer who admits he spent part of an early morning break last month photographing student projects in the classroom of a controversial history teacher.

Treece is that teacher. A passionate pacifist, he has been skewered publicly by critics who say he is pedaling his personal political views to the students in his class. Part of the proof, critics say, is in the photographs Mott took when he visited the high school April 9 while on duty, in uniform, and out of his jurisdiction.

The photographs were taken at around 1:30 a.m. after Mott, who once worked at Spaulding, persuaded a custodian to unlock the door to the classroom Treece shares with another teacher.

Mott isn’t apologizing for his actions and says he has at least temporarily refused orders from Barre Town Police Chief Michael Stevens and Town Manager Carl Rogers to supply school officials with copies of the photographs.

“I’m going to speak to an attorney first,” he said.

Mott disputes an account of the April 9 incident contained in a letter written by school Superintendent Dorothy Anderson to the police chief.

Specifically, Mott disputes Anderson’s claim that he “banged on the front door” of the high school to get the attention of night custodian Arnold Cliche, and that Cliche opened the door and let him in.

“It didn’t happen that way,” he said.

According to Mott, he entered the school through an unlocked maintenance door, found Cliche and asked him to unlock the door to Treece’s classroom room so he could take photographs with his personal camera. Although he was on duty at the time, Mott maintains that he was on a break and wanted to photograph student projects that offended him as an American and a retired military man.

“I wanted everybody else to see what was in that room. You can’t explain it,” he said.

Among the student projects that Mott said he photographed were a poster of the President Bush with duct tape over his mouth and a large papier-mâché combat boot with the American flag stuffed inside stepping on a doll. He said there also were pictures of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and his former chief lieutenant, Ernesto “Che” Guevara, posted on the walls.

“Having spent 30 years in uniform, I was insulted,” he said. “… I’m just taking a stand on what happens in that classroom as a resident and a voter and a taxpayer of this community.”

Mott said he took the photographs less than 48 hours after attending a school board meeting at which several residents complained about what they claimed was an attempt to “indoctrinate” not “educate” students.

School officials have rejected that notion, defending Treece as a “thought-provoking” teacher who provides students in his public issues class with resources from the full spectrum of political perspectives.

“As a teacher he (Treece) does present all sides of an issue,” Anderson said.

Anderson said she was concerned that Mott used his uniform to gain access to a locked classroom after hours without supervision.

“I find this behavior, at the very least, in violation of our policy for visitors at the school,” she wrote in her letter to the police chief. “I also find it disturbing that a police officer would wear his uniform under such circumstances thereby intimidating our employee (Cliche) into letting him in the building at a very unusual hour.”

Anderson said she met with the police chief and the town manager on Friday to discuss her concerns and to reiterate her request for copies of the photographs Mott took and has been circulating in the community. She said Mott had not yet complied with that request, which is based solely on her desire to confirm the photographs were not doctored in any way.

“We’re not embarrassed about what was in that classroom,” she said. “We just want to make sure that the pictures he (Mott) took are an accurate reflection of what the classroom looked like.”

Mott said the photographs he took are authentic and accused school officials of “tap-dancing” around an issue that was brought to their attention last month by using the circumstances under which he entered Treece’s classroom as a diversion.

“It leads me to believe they are out witch-hunting,” he said.

Treece said he knows the feeling. He says Mott and his other detractors don’t have a clue about what he does in his classroom, but that hasn’t stopped them from jumping to conclusions based on his personal political views.

“None of these parents know me in any way,” he said. “They just think they know me. Everything they know about me is hearsay. They don’t have kids in my class. They have taken lies and innuendoes and run with them.”

Treece does not hide his personal views and acknowledges his public criticisms of the war in Iraq and President Bush have irked many in the community. However, he said their contention that he is force-feeding his views to Spaulding students is simply wrong.

“I tell kids from day one: ‘I don’t want you to agree with me, I want you to be informed and think for yourselves,” he said. “I have never squashed dissent in my class in any way shape or form.”

Treece said his message to students is simple: “Defend what you believe and if you can’t defend it I’m going to pick holes in your argument no matter what side of the issue you’re on.”

Treece said he supplies his students with a broad range of resources and encourages them to use them to come to their own conclusions.

“My goal in that class is to get kids to think and be critical of everything they read and hear and see,” he said.

Treece said he’s tired of being painted as anti-American simply because he challenges students not to take what anyone – not the president, their parents, or even he – says at face value.

“I want them to understand that everybody’s got an agenda … everybody,” he said.

Treece said that goes for his detractors, some of whom are using the controversy over a six-word sentence – “All hail the idiot boy king” – that he posted on a bulletin board next to a picture of President Bush as a reason to reject the high school budget. The budget is scheduled for a re-vote next week.

“They’re out to get the budget and they’ve made me their whipping boy,” he said.

Treece makes no apologies for how he conducts his classes or for his own political views. In retrospect, he said, the comment he posted about Bush was probably too direct.

The board meets at 7 p.m. in the high school library. Like the Malones, both Mott and Treece said they plan to attend.

“I did not recognize how fragile people’s feelings were at the time,” he said. “It was horrible timing on my part.”

If he had it to do over again, Treece said he would spell out the same sentiments in two pages of text that wouldn’t have offended anyone.

Paul and Norma Malone, the local couple who first took issue with the comment Treece posted on the board, insist they’re not out to scuttle the budget, but want to restore balance in the curriculum at Spaulding.

“Our position has been and still is there should be a balance in that curriculum and respect in that school,” said Paul Malone.

Although the couple’s criticism is not limited to Treece, they admit his comment served as a springboard for their effort.

“It’s not an issue of freedom of speech. That was never the issue,” he said. “It’s an issue of balance and it’s an issue of professionalism.”

Based on discussions with faculty, parents and students, Norma Malone said students from a largely conservative community are being urged to view the world to through a liberal lens.

“There’s nothing from the center or from the right,” she said, rejecting Treece’s comments to the contrary.

The Malones, who have formed the group “Citizens Advocating Responsible Education,” say they plan to attend tonight’s school board meeting and present a copy of a petition signed by several hundred supporters. The petition states in part: “Students must be provided a thorough, factual, unbiased study of the history of our nation, the importance of our government institutions, and the significance of our political traditions so as to engender civic duty and respect for our national values.”

In order to accomplish that goal, the petition suggests revisions to the school’s policy regarding academic freedom and the appointment of community members to the school board’s curriculum committee.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Vermont
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To: dirtboy
Try entering any public school without permission of the administration and then refuse to leave if asked. Then you WILL see cops on school grounds, and in a big hurry."

On the other hand, if a parent comes to the school, and asks to see the student displays in a classroom when the classroom is unoccupied, that parent should be escorted there and allowed to see those displays. Any reasonable school administration would do this without any problem. If they do not, then it's time to raise some dickens.

Indeed, any parent should have the right to an appointment with his child's teacher and to be shown the classroom where the teaching takes place. You might have to wait a day or two for a convenient time, but you'll get to do that in any reasonable school.

Indeed, most teachers are shocked to death that a parent takes the time to talk to them about their child. It rarely happens.

Last year, my neighbor's daughter was in a school play, so my wife an I went to see the play. We were both shocked to tears. The school theater had about 20 adults in attendance, and the play, "Cats," had more people in it than in the audience.

Disgusting. If parents don't give enough of a damn to take an interest in their childrens' school activities, then I say they have no business complaining about the school. I was really ticked off at the parents of the kids in the play who didn't even bother to come and see their kids perform. What a disaster.

So, if you have a kid in school, make an appointment with your child's teacher or teachers. Ask to see the classroom. Ask about the curriculum. Go to every function your kid is involved in. How can you do less?
301 posted on 05/06/2003 11:51:42 AM PDT by MineralMan
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To: dead
The cop stepped over the line here. If he wasn't on official business, he has no more of a right to be in that building at 1:30 in the morning than anybody else.

Then again it is a public school and people have an absolute right to know what is going on. Parents should have the right to sit in the classroom if they so desire. Teachers are employed by the people, not dictators.

302 posted on 05/06/2003 11:51:56 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: spodefly
Bump that. We have to take back our public schools from these socialist ideologues that will use every effort to thwart any investigation into what they are teaching our children.

We do have to do that. But not by any means available.

303 posted on 05/06/2003 11:52:12 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: FreedomCalls
Funny thing is how, in thosed parallels you are drawing, those people did not have the option to - do what they did _during regular business hours_
304 posted on 05/06/2003 11:52:19 AM PDT by Leftymasher
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To: dirtboy
I've raised 3 kids...we're almost finished anyway. I've almost NEVER followed that rule. (it helps that they know me--think about that too...)..but my point is that it is insulting to tell them that I'm there to see my child or his room. Puhleeze. There are plenty of opportunities during the day to take pictures in the classroom without telling anyone ahead of time.

Now I've been going on the premise that the cop in question has kids in the school..not sure of that.

305 posted on 05/06/2003 11:52:54 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: longtermmemmory
no signs, no trespassing.

And what is your proof that the school was not posted? Just about every schoolyard I've seen nowadays has signs that prohibit trespassing after dark. And a cop outside his jurisdiction has no reason to be going to that school in any kind of official duty that would override the trespass posting.

306 posted on 05/06/2003 11:52:56 AM PDT by dirtboy (words in tagline are closer than they appear...)
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To: RonF
His sworn duty is to serve and protect the public. He did not let the public down. The school did.
307 posted on 05/06/2003 11:53:10 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: dirtboy; PatrickHenry
h ...

"I do believe that the entire reason the the Pilgrims came here, was to escape religious persecution. The Founding Fathers granted the entire concept of freedom of religion to ALL religions."

"the entire reason"

"freedom of religion to ALL religions."

fC ...

Does the constitution say separation of state and God ?

Freedom from religion ?

Does one escape a ... burning house --- to protect arsonists (( quack teachers // pyromaniacs )) ?

170 posted on 05/01/2003 3:34 PM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))

Forced atheism --- tyranny !

308 posted on 05/06/2003 11:53:17 AM PDT by f.Christian (( With Rights ... comes Responsibilities --- irresponsibility --- whacks // criminals - psychos ! ))
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To: CMAC51
Here and in previous comments you assume that the individual entered the building illegally and then used his position as a police officer to gain access to the room.

Mott admits that he entered the building illegally -- the fact that the door was allegedly unlocked is no excuse.

309 posted on 05/06/2003 11:53:29 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: RonF
RonF, stop that. It is completly rediculous for some one to have to rehash a whole argument anytime someone wants to play defense lawyer. If I said Public Buildings several times and that is what the whole thread is about, why do you have to stop and make sure that every time someone has to include the whole thing.
310 posted on 05/06/2003 11:55:26 AM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: grapeape
That's awful. In our old district, we got a majority of conservatives on the board for 1 term..but we didn't have the same volunteer fighters in the next election..meaning there were less people fighting for what is right. People got tired and gave up. It was horrible. It's all about liberalism, and multi-culturalism. (oh and spending money on useless programs)
311 posted on 05/06/2003 11:55:58 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: RonF
Yes, that's the same reason we have in our districts. I guess I feel that extra power because we've been married 20 yrs. It does make a difference to have a relationship with the teachers etc..so they know ya.
312 posted on 05/06/2003 11:57:26 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: spodefly
"Bump that. We have to take back our public schools from these socialist ideologues that will use every effort to thwart any investigation into what they are teaching our children."

Indeed. So what are you doing to change the schools? Do you have a school board? Is your area's Superintendent of Schools an elected official? There's your answer. Get out there and make those changes.
313 posted on 05/06/2003 11:57:40 AM PDT by MineralMan
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To: RonF
??? Is this a slow day at work for you? Only a lawyer with a really small case load would try to make an argument that a policeman can't wear his uniform outside of work. That is silly. To say that he represented himself as someone doing official business is not even alledged.

That is enough of this one.
314 posted on 05/06/2003 12:00:30 PM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: grapeape
" we got a majority"

I embarrass myself sometimes. I really do know how to write a great term paper. sigh

315 posted on 05/06/2003 12:01:01 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Leftymasher; Cultural Jihad; anniegetyourgun
Treece said he’s tired of being painted as anti-American simply because he challenges students not to take what anyone...their parents...says at face value.

“I want them to understand that everybody’s got an agenda … everybody,” he said.

The minute this moron undermines a parent's authority with their child he should be fired, regardless of how he feels about Bush, the war or the color red.

The statement quoted above is the most damning part of the entire article. Screw going after the budget, the parents should be after his job - and the job of any administrator that protects him.

316 posted on 05/06/2003 12:01:26 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: moneyrunner
I don’t care if you’re wearing a uniform, your don’t give up your rights as a citizen when you put on a badge. You don’t give up your rights to have political opinions when you put on a badge.

No, you don't give up the right to have political opinions while you're wearing a badge, but you give up your right to act on them or express them. Try being a cop in uniform providing security to a basketball game and standing up and telling the crowd that the Police Chief is an idiot and ought to lose his/her job, or that all Democrats are fools and people should vote for a Republican candidate while controlling traffic at a political rally. During the time that you are actually wearing the badge, you give up the right to take sides in a political debate. Police authority must be exercised without regard to anything but the law.

317 posted on 05/06/2003 12:02:05 PM PDT by RonF
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
WE have people trying to rebuild the party apparatus here in Houston but the Christians keep running people off. There are really three parties hear 1 democrat and two Republican. That is why we have out-of-town-brown for two terms.
318 posted on 05/06/2003 12:03:28 PM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: ValerieUSA
My late husband was a law enforcement officer who usually worked the nightshift. He routinely checked the doors of buildings after hours, including private businesses, to make sure the buildings were secure.

Did he go in and take pictures?

Did he do this to buildings outside his juristiction, as this cop did (check the article again, right in the beginning)? I bet not.

319 posted on 05/06/2003 12:03:43 PM PDT by RonF
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
"That's awful. In our old district, we got a majority of conservatives on the board for 1 term..but we didn't have the same volunteer fighters in the next election..meaning there were less people fighting for what is right. People got tired and gave up. "

So the other side did get enough volunteers, apparently, and won. Tough thing, that. Those who will not work for their goals deserve to lose, in my opinion. It's an ongoing effort, not something you do once then forget about.

We have a great system here. If you can convince the majority to vote for your slate of school board members, you control the school. If you can't get enough people to volunteer to do this, then the other side will win. It's so simple, yet I rarely see much action. Most conservatives, it seems are satisfied with complaining about things on FR or other places, but are not willing to put their beliefs into action.

School board elections are child's play. If conservatives cannot consistently elect a school board that is conservative in nature, then they deserve what they get, in my opinion. Most people don't even care who's on the school board in a district. All it takes is some minimal effort to publicize the names of the candidates you want elected and simple name recognition will insure their election.

I'm just amazed.
320 posted on 05/06/2003 12:05:58 PM PDT by MineralMan
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