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Cop takes 'midnight photos' of teacher's classroom
Times Argus ^ | David Delcore

Posted on 05/06/2003 9:35:22 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

BARRE – John Mott and Tom Treece have at least one thing in common. Make that two.

Both men think they have been unfairly accused and, if you believe their critics, both have had a chilling impact on students at Spaulding High School.

Mott is the Barre Town police officer who admits he spent part of an early morning break last month photographing student projects in the classroom of a controversial history teacher.

Treece is that teacher. A passionate pacifist, he has been skewered publicly by critics who say he is pedaling his personal political views to the students in his class. Part of the proof, critics say, is in the photographs Mott took when he visited the high school April 9 while on duty, in uniform, and out of his jurisdiction.

The photographs were taken at around 1:30 a.m. after Mott, who once worked at Spaulding, persuaded a custodian to unlock the door to the classroom Treece shares with another teacher.

Mott isn’t apologizing for his actions and says he has at least temporarily refused orders from Barre Town Police Chief Michael Stevens and Town Manager Carl Rogers to supply school officials with copies of the photographs.

“I’m going to speak to an attorney first,” he said.

Mott disputes an account of the April 9 incident contained in a letter written by school Superintendent Dorothy Anderson to the police chief.

Specifically, Mott disputes Anderson’s claim that he “banged on the front door” of the high school to get the attention of night custodian Arnold Cliche, and that Cliche opened the door and let him in.

“It didn’t happen that way,” he said.

According to Mott, he entered the school through an unlocked maintenance door, found Cliche and asked him to unlock the door to Treece’s classroom room so he could take photographs with his personal camera. Although he was on duty at the time, Mott maintains that he was on a break and wanted to photograph student projects that offended him as an American and a retired military man.

“I wanted everybody else to see what was in that room. You can’t explain it,” he said.

Among the student projects that Mott said he photographed were a poster of the President Bush with duct tape over his mouth and a large papier-mâché combat boot with the American flag stuffed inside stepping on a doll. He said there also were pictures of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and his former chief lieutenant, Ernesto “Che” Guevara, posted on the walls.

“Having spent 30 years in uniform, I was insulted,” he said. “… I’m just taking a stand on what happens in that classroom as a resident and a voter and a taxpayer of this community.”

Mott said he took the photographs less than 48 hours after attending a school board meeting at which several residents complained about what they claimed was an attempt to “indoctrinate” not “educate” students.

School officials have rejected that notion, defending Treece as a “thought-provoking” teacher who provides students in his public issues class with resources from the full spectrum of political perspectives.

“As a teacher he (Treece) does present all sides of an issue,” Anderson said.

Anderson said she was concerned that Mott used his uniform to gain access to a locked classroom after hours without supervision.

“I find this behavior, at the very least, in violation of our policy for visitors at the school,” she wrote in her letter to the police chief. “I also find it disturbing that a police officer would wear his uniform under such circumstances thereby intimidating our employee (Cliche) into letting him in the building at a very unusual hour.”

Anderson said she met with the police chief and the town manager on Friday to discuss her concerns and to reiterate her request for copies of the photographs Mott took and has been circulating in the community. She said Mott had not yet complied with that request, which is based solely on her desire to confirm the photographs were not doctored in any way.

“We’re not embarrassed about what was in that classroom,” she said. “We just want to make sure that the pictures he (Mott) took are an accurate reflection of what the classroom looked like.”

Mott said the photographs he took are authentic and accused school officials of “tap-dancing” around an issue that was brought to their attention last month by using the circumstances under which he entered Treece’s classroom as a diversion.

“It leads me to believe they are out witch-hunting,” he said.

Treece said he knows the feeling. He says Mott and his other detractors don’t have a clue about what he does in his classroom, but that hasn’t stopped them from jumping to conclusions based on his personal political views.

“None of these parents know me in any way,” he said. “They just think they know me. Everything they know about me is hearsay. They don’t have kids in my class. They have taken lies and innuendoes and run with them.”

Treece does not hide his personal views and acknowledges his public criticisms of the war in Iraq and President Bush have irked many in the community. However, he said their contention that he is force-feeding his views to Spaulding students is simply wrong.

“I tell kids from day one: ‘I don’t want you to agree with me, I want you to be informed and think for yourselves,” he said. “I have never squashed dissent in my class in any way shape or form.”

Treece said his message to students is simple: “Defend what you believe and if you can’t defend it I’m going to pick holes in your argument no matter what side of the issue you’re on.”

Treece said he supplies his students with a broad range of resources and encourages them to use them to come to their own conclusions.

“My goal in that class is to get kids to think and be critical of everything they read and hear and see,” he said.

Treece said he’s tired of being painted as anti-American simply because he challenges students not to take what anyone – not the president, their parents, or even he – says at face value.

“I want them to understand that everybody’s got an agenda … everybody,” he said.

Treece said that goes for his detractors, some of whom are using the controversy over a six-word sentence – “All hail the idiot boy king” – that he posted on a bulletin board next to a picture of President Bush as a reason to reject the high school budget. The budget is scheduled for a re-vote next week.

“They’re out to get the budget and they’ve made me their whipping boy,” he said.

Treece makes no apologies for how he conducts his classes or for his own political views. In retrospect, he said, the comment he posted about Bush was probably too direct.

The board meets at 7 p.m. in the high school library. Like the Malones, both Mott and Treece said they plan to attend.

“I did not recognize how fragile people’s feelings were at the time,” he said. “It was horrible timing on my part.”

If he had it to do over again, Treece said he would spell out the same sentiments in two pages of text that wouldn’t have offended anyone.

Paul and Norma Malone, the local couple who first took issue with the comment Treece posted on the board, insist they’re not out to scuttle the budget, but want to restore balance in the curriculum at Spaulding.

“Our position has been and still is there should be a balance in that curriculum and respect in that school,” said Paul Malone.

Although the couple’s criticism is not limited to Treece, they admit his comment served as a springboard for their effort.

“It’s not an issue of freedom of speech. That was never the issue,” he said. “It’s an issue of balance and it’s an issue of professionalism.”

Based on discussions with faculty, parents and students, Norma Malone said students from a largely conservative community are being urged to view the world to through a liberal lens.

“There’s nothing from the center or from the right,” she said, rejecting Treece’s comments to the contrary.

The Malones, who have formed the group “Citizens Advocating Responsible Education,” say they plan to attend tonight’s school board meeting and present a copy of a petition signed by several hundred supporters. The petition states in part: “Students must be provided a thorough, factual, unbiased study of the history of our nation, the importance of our government institutions, and the significance of our political traditions so as to engender civic duty and respect for our national values.”

In order to accomplish that goal, the petition suggests revisions to the school’s policy regarding academic freedom and the appointment of community members to the school board’s curriculum committee.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antibush; blameamericafirst; bushbashing; commies; communists; hateamericafirst; leftwinghategroup; litteredschoolhouse; looneyleft; police; procastro; prodictator; publicschool; redmenace; students; taxdollarsatwork; theredmenace; vermont; youpayforthis
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To: anniegetyourgun
Hmmmm ... a public funded school that the public must first get permmission in advance to visit. Kind of like the dance between Sodom and the un-inspectors. These schools are molding the minds of our children the parents should have absolute say in what their children are taught. But elites don't see it that way.
201 posted on 05/06/2003 11:05:48 AM PDT by fella
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To: USAF_ret
Now that I appreciate!!! Have a nice week..
202 posted on 05/06/2003 11:05:48 AM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: mewzilla
The problem is not that he took pictures in a public building. It is that he was out of his jurisdiction, used color of authority inappropriately to gain access (he was in uniform), and refused an order to present the pictures.

In most departments, he get some time on the beach or walking papers.

203 posted on 05/06/2003 11:06:28 AM PDT by breakem
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To: MineralMan
Aptos high school, Santa Cruz County, fall 2001.

A poster in my child's classroom said "if you are a boy who really really likes boys, or if you are a girl who really really likes girls, call this number" It then listed a phone number. The poster was put up by GLSEN. It was not approved by the district. It had a phone number that NO ONE KNEW who answered the phone. It is against the law for a school to advocate counseling unapproved by the district. When we tool a school board trustee to see the poster it had been taken down. It subsequently turned up in a different classroom, as reported by my child a few days later.

The school requires you to have a permit to set foot on campus and you have to have the name of the person you are seeing. Once you reveal where you'd like to go, they have plenty of time to remove any offensive materials. The school disapproves of parents on campus, will actively prevent you from visiting classrooms or observing daily activities on the campus.

Another instance was an assembly that was to psychologically manipulate the children called "breaking down the walls". By law and district policy the school is not allowed to do any psychological surveying of the student without parental permission. Do you think they informed parents about the assembly and its purpose? NO WAY. Some kids were still messed up, up to 3 days after it was over. They required counseling just to recover from what the school did to them.

http://www.freedom21santacruz.net/issues/Family-autonomy/breakwall/index.html


204 posted on 05/06/2003 11:06:31 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Travis McGee
Communism murdered 100 million innocents in the last century, and this teacher teaches his students to adore communist icons (Fidel and Che). What if he had posters of Hitler and Himmler on the wall, and the cop did the same thing. Any problem?

My problem is not with the desired end - of getting this teacher to quit promoting communist ideals. My problem is with the means - of a cop using his badge to pursue a political agenda while on duty. I belive it was Lenin, after all, who said that the end justifies the means. Are YOU and other posters now agreeing with that? It sure seems like it...

205 posted on 05/06/2003 11:06:42 AM PDT by dirtboy (words in tagline are closer than they appear...)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
actually you have to find out if there is an agreement which allows officers warrantless entry onto the school property from the school board. If it exists they are done.
206 posted on 05/06/2003 11:06:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: r9etb
That bring us back to trespassing - he was let in by the person in charge at the time.
207 posted on 05/06/2003 11:06:55 AM PDT by fml
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To: Travis McGee
What if he had posters of Hitler and Himmler on the wall, and the cop did the same thing. Any problem?

Treece is a disgrace, and should be prevented from pushing his line of tripe -- or fired if he refuses.

Which is irrelevant to the impropriety of Mott's actions.

208 posted on 05/06/2003 11:07:22 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
>>>>>Out of his jurisdiction at 0130, in uniform, for the express purpose of doing a personal errand while in uniform -- you can't find anything wrong with anything there?

No I can't. 1:30am is his break time and is permitted to run errands out of jurisdiction.

>>>We don't know that.

It was confirmed in the article and on Rush. He use to work there. Cliche and Mott did know each. So we don't know if the uniform presented any influence.

>>>>Mott's actions -- political or not -- could have been undertaken without the use of a uniform. Political opinions and Mott's reaction thereto, does not justify what he did.

Actually, we haven't confirmed a uniform had any influence since it was confirmed that he worked there and did know Cliche. And you know what? It was never confirmed he was in uniform. Could have changed his clothes. (just speculating).

So what did he do wrong? He gained access with permission from someone he knew.
209 posted on 05/06/2003 11:07:49 AM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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To: fella
"Hmmmm ... a public funded school that the public must first get permmission in advance to visit. Kind of like the dance between Sodom and the un-inspectors. "

Yup. All schools are that way. Why do you suppose that is? If you're a parent, you can get that permission. If you're a child molester, ostensibly, you cannot.

You must have a legitimate reason to come on the school grounds, and you must obtain permission from the school administration to do so.
210 posted on 05/06/2003 11:08:09 AM PDT by MineralMan
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To: fella
Hmmmm ... a public funded school that the public must first get permmission in advance to visit

There are actually sound security reasons for this. Would you want a school to let any adult roam the hallways without clearance from the central office?

211 posted on 05/06/2003 11:08:17 AM PDT by dirtboy (words in tagline are closer than they appear...)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
An officer of the law can come in go as they deam fit in any school. If they want to take pictures of layouts of classrooms, fine. That is my stance.
212 posted on 05/06/2003 11:09:15 AM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: dirtboy
Likewise, using his badge to gain access to a locked classroom that is off-limits to the general public without clearance from the school board is an abuse of power.

That's a bit dramatic. Treece could have entered the classroom, and maybe a student or parent who needed to pick up an assignment or textbook, if they had asked. I also see no reason why any citizen who requested to be let into the classroom to see the projects on display should have been denied entry, if someone was there to protect the property. Do you think the public should have to go through the school board for this? Why? Who holds the school board accountable?

213 posted on 05/06/2003 11:09:51 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
My point exactly, How can a cop be trespassing in a public building. One that probably has some kind of sub-station or at least office manned by COPS. I've never seen a High school with out one.
214 posted on 05/06/2003 11:11:29 AM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: MineralMan
Civics are supposed to be taught in high school so that students learn what it takes to be a good citizen and participate in their own government. The schools now teach governnment because they want the children to believe that American government is not superiour to any other form of government. They have pulled a switcherooo by teaching government instead of civics and that is why children to not know the value of their government, free society and individual responsibility.

Our ancestors understood very well that citizens must be taught how our government runs and how it must be supported by individuals in order for it to continue. Socialists hate our freedom and personal responsibility and cannot fairly teach children because of their ingrained antipathy for our government, to be free citizens of the United States.
215 posted on 05/06/2003 11:12:12 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: MineralMan
I find this extraordinarily sad. It seems that folks are unable to extend what this cop did to a situation where the politics were reversed.

Yep. There's actually a very bitter irony here - they are condemning the communistic ideals being promoted by this teacher, while buying into the ultimate communist ideal and the one that caused the most harm - that the end justifies the means.

We either have a free society, where people may hold and express any views they wish, without interference by the police, or we do not. From what I'm reading, it appears that many believe we should not have a free society. These were _student_ projects, not things done by the teacher. A free society does not prohibit unpopular opinions. Apparently some here do not want a free society.

Nor do they support restraints on official power when it suits their agenda. There are adequate official, sanctioned methods to address this problem. Take it to the administrators and the school board. If you don't get satisfaction, vote the school board out of office. They seem to forget that power that can be abused against your opponents today can be abused against them tomorrow.

216 posted on 05/06/2003 11:12:25 AM PDT by dirtboy (words in tagline are closer than they appear...)
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To: Trace21230
O.k. so, was the cop acting in an official capacity or not? There are people all over this thread trying to say that he was let in because, heck, the janitor would let just anyone into the building at 130am in the morning. I'm sure it happens all the time. Why, I often go cruising the halls of the local highschool all night long, and that's just fine, because it's a public building right! (/sarcasm)

You are correct that he was allowed in by the janitor, which would have made the entry legal if he were there on official business. However, y'all seem to want it both ways. I'd have no problem with a cop attempting this stunt if he wasn't (one more time folks) in uniform and on duty. However, because he was, his request could be reasonably thought to be a legitimate request by the janitor, who obviously has been neglecting his study of constitutional law. There is also the consideration that he was outside of his jurisdiction.

Had I been the janitor, I'd have noted the cop's badge number and department to give to the principle/superintendent in the morning and then told the cop to specify why he wanted admittance, and if not satisfied, tell him to get a warrant and pound sand until it shows.

I really don't understand why people are just begging to give the government limitless authority over them. This is supposed to be a conservative philosophy?

217 posted on 05/06/2003 11:12:39 AM PDT by zeugma (Hate pop-up ads? Here's the fix: http://www.mozilla.org/)
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To: dirtboy
Communists and Fascists both used Western legalistic paralysis to invade like a social virus and conquer and enslave.

A society which finds itself totally hamstrung to the extent that a single cop is pilloried for "outing" a pro-communist high school history teacher is a society on its way out.

The local PD didn't form a jack boot brigade and begin to spy on teachers. This one cop took it on as his own personal mission. Hate him for it if you want, but he was just one fallible human, trying to correct an atrocity by shining light on it.

I never heard the libs condemn any of the tobacco industry whistleblowers for "stealing" documents, which they did. They were called heros, and Hollywood made movies about their virtue.

Communism is a thousand times more dangerous to than Big Tobacco.

The cop is a hero. He may be fired, he may be sued, he is still a hero.

He nationally exposed a communist agent.

218 posted on 05/06/2003 11:13:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"They have pulled a switcherooo by teaching government instead of civics and that is why children to not know the value of their government, free society and individual responsibility.
"

Not where I live. Government classes here teach the Constitution and our system as the ideal. They teach about our precious freedom of speech, too. They teach about other systems of government because it is important to understand that information.

However, the most important thing our schools teach is the ability to think. Without that, we are nothing more than drones.
219 posted on 05/06/2003 11:14:30 AM PDT by MineralMan
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To: Trace21230
Under what authority do you support your claim that a uniformed police officer is committing the crime of trespass when he goes onto the premises of a publicly owned building?

Mott was outside his jurisdiction. He had no official business inside the building. He improperly used his uniform to gain access to the classroom in order to perform a personal errand.

You doubtless understand also that "publicly-owned" is not synonymous with "I can go inside anytime I have a hankering to do so."

Case closed.

220 posted on 05/06/2003 11:15:12 AM PDT by r9etb
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