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Hillary in '08, or sooner?
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 5/4/03 | Robert Novak

Posted on 05/04/2003 10:26:02 PM PDT by LdSentinal

It is not merely the ranting of radio talk show hosts and their callers.

It is not just daydreaming by political junkies. It's still a long shot, but it really could happen.

Hillary in '04!

No, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York is not about to announce her candidacy for president in 2004, joining the jostling pack of Democratic candidates elbowing each other and participating in their first debate this weekend in South Carolina. Her reputation for keeping secrets is well-known, but everybody believes she is planning to sit out 2004 and aiming for the 2008 election to run for president.

Nevertheless, Hillary could be propelled, without her volition, into next year's presidential election. The prospect of another Bush-Clinton race--with a younger Bush and a female Clinton--generates hope and fear among Democrats and Republicans alike.

Democrats hope that Mrs. Clinton can duplicate nationally her letter-perfect 2000 campaign for the U.S. Senate but fear she could bring on one of the periodic Democratic washouts, in the mold of George McGovern and Walter Mondale. Republicans hope her premature presidential candidacy could mean ridding themselves of the Clintons at long last, but are frightened by her masterful performance in New York.

The former first lady certainly generates far more attention than the pallid band of announced candidates. This weekend's South Carolina debate will not get a fraction of the media exposure Sen. Clinton will command between now and June 9, the publication date of Living History, her memoir of life as first lady. With hints that it will reveal what Hillary really thinks of Monica Lewinsky--and her husband--an instant runaway best seller is promised.

A book, even one with a first printing of 1 million copies, is no substitute for a political campaign. However, it contributes to a mood of "Hillarymania" that may produce a heady concoction when mixed with two political facts of life.

First, there is no superstar among the eight announced Democratic presidential candidates. There is no charismatic young standard bearer in the mold of John F. Kennedy or Bill Clinton or an intriguing, unusual newcomer such as Jimmy Carter. As of today, none of the candidates looks like a winner against George W. Bush.

Second, the Democratic timetable has been moved forward radically, with primary elections earlier and a much higher percentage of delegates to be selected by the end of March.

Those two factors could militate against the usual way the Democratic Party has avoided a deadlock in multi-candidate fields over the past generation. George McGovern in 1972, Jimmy Carter in 1976, Michael Dukakis in 1988 and Bill Clinton in 1992 all started as little-known candidates. But as they won one primary election after another going into the spring, they collected a majority of delegates well before the first gavel opened the national convention.

That could happen again in 2004, but it is much more difficult because of so many primaries compacted early in the year.

Although the odds are still negative, it is now arithmetically possible that no nominee will emerge before the convention begins.

Consider this possible scenario. Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri wins the opening round, the caucuses in neighboring Iowa. Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts follows with a victory in the first primary election, in neighboring New Hampshire. South Carolina, the first southern primary, is won by Sen. John Edwards from neighboring North Carolina. Michigan, jumping into the early primary election mix, gives first place to Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut.

Because different winners according to this scenario divide up the primaries, the normal winnowing out process would not occur. If that happens, the Democratic Party will go into its July convention in Boston without a clear winner for the first time since Chicago in 1952 when Illinois Gov. Adlai Stevenson was nominated on the third ballot.

Here looms the brokered convention that journalists and other political junkies have dreamed about for half a century.

Enter Hillary. Assume there has been no economic collapse and President Bush is still riding the crest of military victory in Iraq. Who else would the Democrats turn to but the woman who stood aloof from her husband's escapades, won election in a strange state and then made a mark for herself in the U.S. Senate as a shrewd, industrious freshman member.

It would be an immense gamble for Democrats--the first woman candidate for president and an enormously controversial one at that. Many Republicans anticipate a showdown between Hillary Clinton and George W. Bush as promising the death knell of the Democratic Party. But New Yorkers could remind them of the perils in getting what you wish for.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; 2008; hillary; hillenberg; newyork; novak; president
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1 posted on 05/04/2003 10:26:02 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
The campaign of Hillary Clinton has begun folks. More and more subtle articles like this are showing up, including one that says Bill may want her to run in 2004.
She is behind this, and is waiting in the wings to say she wasn't going to, but gee whiz, what's a gal to do when they all want her?
2 posted on 05/04/2003 10:30:29 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred
It's still a long shot, but it really could happen.

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A long shot? Unless Bush can continue in a war risis footing, he's going to get the same thing his father got.

3 posted on 05/04/2003 10:35:15 PM PDT by RLK
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To: LdSentinal

Hillarymania!!


4 posted on 05/04/2003 10:38:45 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (((Hitlery Clinton in 2104 )))
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To: RLK
He might, but then again, there is no ross perot running...
5 posted on 05/04/2003 10:41:02 PM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: RLK
I hope not, but the democrats are doing everything in their power to redo election 1992 that is for sure. James should be on Larry King any day now spitting out "It's the economy, stupid!' He won't, btw, be accused of hurting the economy as W was in 2000 when he said a recession was on the way, nor will any democrat candidate.
6 posted on 05/04/2003 10:41:10 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: LdSentinal
democrats don`t fly,bump.
7 posted on 05/04/2003 10:42:33 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: RLK
No, Bush Senior lost, GWB will win 54 states.
8 posted on 05/04/2003 10:44:31 PM PDT by bybybill (first the public employees, next the fish and, finally, the children)
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To: LdSentinal
I will be sorely disappointed in my fellow Americans if she steps one foot over the threshold of 1600 Penn Ave. Keep in mind that Hitlery is free to tumble out the window at the same address...
9 posted on 05/04/2003 10:48:30 PM PDT by WellsFargo94
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To: ladyinred
That's what I think too. She will wait till the last minute and then jump in with the excuse that she was forced to run to save the party. Sickening. We had to stomach pictures of Billy jogging, is she next? Yuck.
10 posted on 05/04/2003 10:51:53 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: LdSentinal
"intriguing, newcomer Jimmy Carter" --- "her masterful performance in New York". There should be a rule that any post of this type should come with a warning, puulleezzee! No offence offered, but it took great muscle control to keep from hurling my toes.
11 posted on 05/04/2003 10:54:32 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: WellsFargo94
Even if she's dropped from 30,000ft without a parachute?
12 posted on 05/04/2003 10:55:16 PM PDT by Pyrion
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To: chance33_98
He might, but then again, there is no ross perot running...

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Perot didn't cost Bush anything. He brought in new voters to create a higher percentage of voter turnout than has occured since then. Between the Democrats and Republicans they have been alienating voters at disastrous rates.

13 posted on 05/04/2003 10:57:54 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
Perhaps so, in that vein here is an Interesting article covering the perot voters.
14 posted on 05/04/2003 11:04:52 PM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: Pyrion
Hillary's in a hurry, you know. Better provide her with a little rocket propelled assistance, so she can arrive sooner. Free fall just isn't fast enough for her.
15 posted on 05/04/2003 11:06:16 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!!!)
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To: bybybill
No, Bush Senior lost, GWB will win 54 states.

Considering there are only 50 states, that sounds unlikely.

16 posted on 05/04/2003 11:20:19 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: LdSentinal
I think she runs in '04.

A run in '08 may find her not in elected office thus with a two-year diminished personna not being in the headlines.

17 posted on 05/04/2003 11:23:21 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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To: Joe Bfstplk
A run in '08 may find her not in elected office thus with a two-year diminished personna not being in the headlines.

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Plus, Hillary is facing the problem of age. Presently, she is youthfully photogenic except for the unflattering photographs people here save and dredge up for amusement. The book cover photograph is attractive. In a few more years a youthful image will be hard to fabricate without plastic surgery.

18 posted on 05/04/2003 11:30:24 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
She's had plastic surgery and that book cover was airbrushed withing an inch of the airbrusher's life.
20 posted on 05/04/2003 11:33:55 PM PDT by nopardons
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