Gun Manufacturers & the Magazine Ban

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[Atlas Sneezed]

The 1994 Clinton/Feinstein federal ban on numerous semi-automatic rifles also includes a federal ban on the importation of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. Law enforcement -- our servants -- are exempt from that restriction. As if a cop's life and means of self-defense is superior to yours, an absurdity beyond ridiculous.

That magazine ban is due to sunset in September 2004 when the semi-auto rifle ban sunsets. Certain domestic enemies in Congress are already moaning to renew and expand the ban. Screw them all. It's time to fight fire with fire.

Should firearm manufacturers pledge that if the ban on ammunition feeding devices holding more than 10 rounds is renewed, they will only market and sell limited-capacity feeding devices to all Government entities as well as civilians -- in effect making the government abide by its own laws?

YES? or NO?

Take the poll on left side of http://KeepAndBearArms.com

FYI, there's a follow-up poll, an article and an activist campaign in development on this issue. It's time to find out which gun manufacturers respect the Second Amendment as much as issue-conscious gun owners do. Those are the ONLY ones who deserve our support.

Any law enforcement officer who thinks he deserves more effective magazine capacity than you do is not your friend, and not Liberty's friend. Period. Federal, state, local -- irrelevant. The Second Amendment is a "right of the people". Any person who can't read simple English is unfit to wear a badge. More than a few government employees need to get that through their thick skulls.

And they need a strong dose of their own medicine.

If the Clinton/Feinstein gun ban is renewed by Congress and signed into law by our "pro gun" President, any gun manufacturer that continues to sell feeding devices to law enforcement agencies that are banned from The People is going to feel the sting of Activism.

The Smith & Wesson treatment. In other words, pain at the bottom line.

Answer that poll, please. And get some of your allies to answer it, too. Thanks!

[Atlas Sneezed]

Bang.

[joesnuffy]

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country

[Indrid Cold]

I'm sure their heart is in the right place, but designwise they shouldn't have the poll automatically marked "yes" (so that you have to change it if you want to vote "no"). Not like the results would be scientifically acceptable anyway... Sorry, just being picky.

[toddst]

Our Congressional Reps need to support the sunset of this stupid "Assault Weapons" legislation. I have no use for the military version of semi-autos or high-capacity magazines, but it's not the job of government to prevent me from buying them if I want, as a law-abiding citizen.

[duk]

I firmly believe that the law enforcement of the U.S. should not be allowed to posses any firearm, munition, and related articles,(flash granades) that the general public can't.

If police can have a suppresor, so should I if I choose. If they can buy a .50 BMG and mount it on an APC so should I, if I choose.

This article is only a half step toward justice, making the law and their "toys" on the same platform as the general public is only proper.

[Orangedog]

Law enforcement -- our servants -- are exempt from that restriction. As if a cop's life and means of self-defense is superior to yours, an absurdity beyond ridiculous.

This mindset began around the time that they stopped being Peace Officers and became Law Enforcement officers.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Should firearm manufacturers pledge that if the ban on ammunition feeding devices holding more than 10 rounds is renewed, they will only market and sell limited-capacity feeding devices to all Government entities as well as civilians -- in effect making the government abide by its own laws?

Won't work.

There are plenty of after-market and foreign manufacturers who will be more than happy to sell high capacity magazines to LEAs.

[Greeklawyer]

ahh but there are many municipalities that require police agencies to buy american. (which is why I am surprised that the new Indian motorcycle has yet to make a police cruiser)

[E. Pluribus Unum]

There are many American after-market high-capacity magazine manufacturers. The quality of after-market magazines is usually not as good as OEMs, but PMCs are excellent, while US Mags are junk.

[Dustbunny]

The dems and particularly the very left leaning socialist dems are working hard in their sneaky underhanded way to destroy this country, one little step at a time. We will be living with the Clinton legacy of underhanded socialism for years to come.

[Coffee_drinker]

BTTT,
Voted did my part. Please lets keep this bump'ed as the weekend is kind of slow. But this is a great idea, lets make the Government abide by its own laws!What a concept!
Here is the link again,
http://www.KeepAndBearArms.com

CD

[FreeRadical]

Thanks for the pointer to their poll.

[demosthenes the elder]

been and done.
overwhelmingly "yes" at the moment.
I love the Sowell quote at the bottom of the poll:
"If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 50 years ago, a liberal 25 years ago, and a racist today." —THOMAS SOWELL

[Vic3O3]

ping--go vote the poll

[supercat]

A sunset of the AWB will probably be very good for manufacturers (many people will want to buy lots of new proper-sized magazines for their post-94 firearms) but not so good for some dealers (who will see their existing inventory values plumet).

[WorkingClassFilth]

"I have no use for the military version of semi-autos or high-capacity magazines, but it's not the job of government to prevent me from buying them if I want, as a law-abiding citizen."

After the ban, you can't believe how many people I met that originally felt the same way - and bought what the government clearly did not want them to possess. One guy told me that because the government didn't wan thim to own such weapons, it gave him the motivation to make sure they couldn't infringe on his freedoms.

[Ancesthntr]

If police can have a suppresor, so should I if I choose. If they can buy a .50 BMG and mount it on an APC so should I, if I choose.

Regarding suppressors, it is a remarkable bit of hypocricy for these antis to demand that ranges be closed because "there's too much noise," yet if you raise the issue of having silencers to avoid such a "problem" (which most of these antis move to, as ranges have usually been in place for a long while), they decry your desire to own such a "criminal" device. Well, which is it, too noisy or not? The truth is that they just want to ban guns, and too much noise is a good way to get ranges closed and make it much more inconvenient to practice (and, thus, to own guns).

[Ancesthntr]

After the ban, you can't believe how many people I met that originally felt the same way - and bought what the government clearly did not want them to possess. One guy told me that because the government didn't wan thim to own such weapons, it gave him the motivation to make sure they couldn't infringe on his freedoms.

I can attest to the truth of this. Before 1989 and the Bush I import ban on "assault weapons," I didn't own a gun despite being very pro-gun (this was due to a lack of money - I had just gotten out of school 2 years before, and was buried in student loans and bills for furniture, etc.). Anyway, I bought a couple then.

Then Guv Florio came along the next year and banned "assault rifles" in NJ, where I lived then (but, thankfully, no longer do). Well, that started a buying spree. Among the guns I bought was an M-1 Garand, far more deadly than the little "poodle-shooter" that I had wanted to buy. Oh, and I've got lots of .30-'06 AP ammo. Boy, Florio really disarmed me!

Subsequent actions by Clinton & Co. spurred yet more stockpiling. I even owned (and still do own) in excess of 40 so-called "high-capacity" mags (really just a metal box large enough to hold more than 15 rounds of whatever ammo it was made for, as well as a compressed spring - gee, what a lethal weapon!). I could've served something like 200 years in prison in NJ had I been caught, but I didn't give a rat's hindquarters - I was simply incensed that my employees thought that they had the power to infringe upon my basic right to self-defense.

If I didn't know better, and I do, I might almost think that the gun-grabbers were being paid-off by the firearms industry, because I'm far from the only one who thinks and acts like you. I fondly recall the overcrowding at numerous gun shows in '93 and '94, and it didn't slack off much afterwards. Oh, and it got real crowded in Sept. and Oct. of 2000, when it looked like Gore might win.