[Paloma_55]

I am glad to see this "come out". This whole "Log Cabin Republican" scam is unbelieveable. I can't figure out why any Republican Party members allow them in. What do we need 3% of the population for, when they have proven that they are immoral, they are perverted, they will lie, cheat and deceive to obtain their objectives.

The whole concept that they based their name upon, "Lincoln was a homo" is a pile of crap. Even if he was, he was smart enough not to make it a public issue. If I was living then, and he did such a thing, I would have wanted his ass out of office in a heartbeat. As it is, I doubt their claims.

All that aside, I have seen their work within the Republican Party. In California last year, a Log Cabin Republican filled out a pro-homo survey and claimed that it was made by Bill Simon, the conservative Republican running for Governor. The homo sent it to the SanFran Chronicle which then played it like a violin with the objective of alienating the conservative base away from the Republican Candidate. The slease that did this was INSIDE the Republican campaign. He was one of Richard Riordan's guys who joined Simon's campaign when Riordan lost.

This is why the homos are in the Republican Party. To sabotage it, and ultimately disable it from stopping their agenda.

We should kick their sorry asses out.

[Temple Drake]

Tho if he was it would totally excuse and explain the "Mary Todd was horribly depressed" story ...

[Torie]

This perfervid tract seems to indulge in a bit of guilt by association to the extent it is any interest at all. But this bit does interest me:

"a Log Cabin Republican filled out a pro-homo survey and claimed that it was made by Bill Simon,"

Do you have any evidence to that? Didn't Simon sign off on it, and then maybe claim he didn't read it or something? And didn't he say the same thing in some speech or interview with gays before the shit hit the fan? Isn't Simon incompetent and disingenuous?

[jla]

"There is nothing conservative about consorting with vicious anti-Christian bigots," he said, "just like there is nothing conservative about supporting the redefinition of marriage to include two men or two women, or pretending that two male lovers adopting a baby is as healthy for the child as having a mom and a dad."

This is the undeniable truth.
I've never seen any data on it, but I'd reckon that a very, very minute percentage of homos believe in God and/or the Bible.

[Cindy]

International Healing Foundation

[thegreatbeast]

I thought the Log Cabin folk were just republicans who were gay but when I saw them taking after Santorum I knew that the camel had its nose in the tent. We certainly don't need the person/people written about in the WND article.

[Michael2001]

BTTT

[Mr. Mojo]

The whole concept that they based their name upon, "Lincoln was a homo" is a pile of crap

Wait just a minute ....I've never heard that one before. Those fruits better not mess around with any of the Founders.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Here here! You are so correct, we should definitely follow the teachings of Jesus and cross to the other side of the road to avoid touching the unclean Samaritan, never dine with tax collectors, and certainly never talk to a woman at the well. < / sarcasm >

As an evangelical, I believe homosexuality is a sin and a dangerous path that can lead to hell. But your ugly diatribe does nothing to persuade someone to leave that life, and in fact feeds the stereotype that conservatives are hateful bigots. One can express disagreement with the homosexual activist political agenda without becoming vitriolic. Do you want to rant, or do you want to persuade and win those with counter views to your side?

As a political matter, I recognize that any winning party must form at least loose coalitions with groups of overlapping interests. If someone who is gay believes and votes predominantly conservative except for some social issues, I would prefer they vote Republican, and we will disagree on the social issues. Not every person who is gay is a militant activist trying to undermine social order. In fact given some of the crude and vitriolic posts here on FR in the supposed name of conservative Christianity, I can see why some in the middle would get the idea that conservatives want an oppressive theocracy. By and large the admitted gay Freepers I have read post in a dignified and reasonable manner. Too bad more don't follow their lead in that regard. Posts like yours make it that much harder to defend good leaders like Santorum and Dobson, that much harder to get people to listen to their actual logic and beliefs. One can defend one's position without compromising and still be civil and respectful.

I'll fight any attempt at legalizing gay marriage, but I will also gladly work with any Log Cabin Republican, or Democrat, or Muslim, on any issues that we share in common.

[I got the rope]

Homo apologist Bump! LOL! Thought you two would feel right at home on this thread.

[Fiddlstix]

Bump

[E Rocc]

What do we need 3% of the population for

Considering the closeness of the 2000 election and the current breakdown in Congress, a better question would be "why intentionally discard supporters?". Especially when they only differ from us on a matter that is absolutely none of the government's business anyway.

-Eric

[Lancey Howard]

I don't think that people who promote man-boy "love", kindergarden "fisting" classes, and teenage barnyard sex should be allowed any standing in the Republican Party. These kinds of things represent Democrat Party values, and that's where these people should stay. Just my 2 cents.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...this is why the homos are in the Republican Party. To sabotage it, and ultimately disable it from stopping their agenda. We should kick their sorry asses out...

Some homosexuals, perhaps. Those who put a militant gay agenda, before their 'conservatism.' But to kick out someone on the basis of their being gay alone would not only be contemptible prejudice, but also a loss for our side. Alan Jones, a fiercely conservative talk show host here in Australia, is enormously influential. And gay. I can't imagine where we'd be without him.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

What do we need 3% of the population for, when they have proven that they are immoral, they are perverted, they will lie, cheat and deceive to obtain their objectives.

Pretty good description of the paleocons.

[Ferret Fawcet]

I am a Bible-believing Christian first, and a Conservative Republican second. I came to the GOP because they strongly support conservative values and family. If our party's goal of "inclusion" means condoning sin, then I want no part of it. I see it this way- what does it profit a man to gain a few votes but loose his soul? I don't claim to be without sin, none of us are. However, I believe that so many of our society's problems stem from NOT discouraging sin. I do not advocate gay-bashing in any form, but neither do I think we should be supporting the Gay & Lesbian agenda.

[Poohbah]

You're forgetting the critical role played in the Simon fiasco by so-called "pro-family organizations."

Instead of finding out what the situation actually was, they simply stepped into attack.

[Dengar01]

I agree that the Log Cabin Republicans are disgusting and I wish for them to become Democrats but the problem is we as conservatives cannot come off as gay bashers as you do in your post. I think homosexuality is immoral but if we bash them we just give them ammunition against us. They'll call us nazis, facists and any name they can think of.

If we come off as gay bashers than main streamers won't take us seriously, they'll liken us to the shortwave radio nuts.

[mabelkitty]

Newsflash: Look up Eva Young, LCR President in Minnesota (if memory serves). She moderates the highly anti-Christian usqueers.com

Yes, the agenda is to infiltrate and use their money and "so-called" small government platform to get attention.

They actually don't want money to go to supporting any Christian or family-oriented anything - hence the "small government" claim is a cover for the real "anti-Christian/anti-family" agenda.

[Plutarch]

I have never heard the Log Cabin Republicans ever do anything but make things difficult for Republicans. I've never heard of them saying or doing anything to knot a Democrat brow. Have any of you?

This are the issues the Nothern Virginia chapter website features:

Criminal law:
Virginia sodomy law
"Hate crimes" legislation

Family law:
Adoption & custody
Gay marriage & domestic partnership

Non-discrimination:
ENDA
Fairfax County schools
Virginia Tech

Taxes:
Federal estate tax

The only issue remotely Republican is the Estate Tax. Everything else is music to Democrat ears. The LCR are about as Republican as a San Francisco bath house.

[Kuksool]

{This is why the homos are in the Republican Party. To sabotage it, and ultimately disable it from stopping their agenda.

We should kick their sorry asses out.}

My sentiments exactly! If the Log Cabin types honestly wish to advance conservative principles, then I will welcome them in. However if they are nothing but a bunch of disruptor trolls then who knows them? They should be working for the Howard Dean campaign.