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More US forces will be based in eastern Europe
The Independent ^ | May 02 2003 | Stephen Castle

Posted on 05/02/2003 10:07:11 AM PDT by knighthawk

A dramatic shift of American military forces from bases in Germany to locations in "new" Europe, including Bulgaria, Romania, Poland and Hungary, is being brought forward after the war in Iraq.

According to reports in the US, the 17,000-strong 1st Armoured Division, most of which was sent to Iraq from Germany, will not return there. Meanwhile, Romania's Defence Minister, Ioan Mircea Pascu, has announced that talks will begin shortly with Washington on the deployment of more American forces to bases in his country.

The decision to scale down American forces in Germany, as well as Pentagon plans to remove troops from Saudi Arabia, underlines the extent to which the Iraq war has changed Washington's military priorities. The aftermath of the conflict is being used to help reshape the international security framework and mount the biggest US military reshuffle since the Second World War.

Europe is used to playing host to more than 112,000 American troops, 80 per cent of whom have been based in Germany. But with the German and French governments singled out for criticism by Washington for their opposition to the war in Iraq, the Pentagon seems intent on shifting many of its forces eastwards.

Former communist countries which have been accepted into Nato's ranks not only offered political support for Washington's war effort but can provide strategic bases.

The pattern likely to emerge is of a dispersal of limited numbers of American troops to several, smaller-scale centres in Eastern Europe, with some soldiers returning home. That would fit with the objective of Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, of creating leaner, more mobile and faster forces.

The senior US commander in Europe, General James Jones, has called for the creation of a "family of bases" that can go "from being cold to warm to hot if you need them".

This blueprint would permit the periodic expansion of forces when necessary while averting a political problem with Moscow. As part of its deal with Russia over the expansion of Nato, Washington agreed not to set up new military bases in the former communist countries. At a meeting this week at Nato headquarters in Brussels the Americans said they will honour this commitment and that any deployments to the former Soviet bloc would require only minimal improvements to existing infrastructure. The purpose would be to allow joint training exercises, a senior American official said.

Diplomats say some of the bases which are likely to play host to US troops have already been upgraded as a condition of entry into Nato, and could accommodate more troops.

European diplomats do not expect the US entirely to abandon its German bases, keeping a presence, for example, at Ramstein near Frankfurt.


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1ad; 1starmoreddivision; bases; bulgaria; easterneurope; europe; germany; hungary; militarybases; neweurope; poland; romania; usmilitary

1 posted on 05/02/2003 10:07:12 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; rebdov; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; Squantos; ...
Europe-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 05/02/2003 10:07:30 AM PDT by knighthawk (Full of power I'm spreading my wings, facing the storm that is gathering near)
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To: knighthawk
European diplomats do not expect the US entirely to abandon its German bases, keeping a presence, for example, at Ramstein near Frankfurt.

Now are these the same that said "we do not expect the American bases to be affected by our position" or are these different experts?

3 posted on 05/02/2003 10:13:06 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Press Secret; Of 2 million Shiite pilgrims, only 3000 chanted anti Americanisms--source-Islamonline!)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
I think many of these experts said the US would not pull out, but inside knew the US would do so.
4 posted on 05/02/2003 10:25:25 AM PDT by knighthawk (Full of power I'm spreading my wings, facing the storm that is gathering near)
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To: knighthawk
read later
5 posted on 05/02/2003 10:28:30 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: knighthawk
The New American strategy.

If you are with us, we will help you.

If you are against, we will not support you any more.
6 posted on 05/02/2003 10:41:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: knighthawk
Please add me to your list.

Many thanks.
7 posted on 05/02/2003 10:44:39 AM PDT by willyb_jr
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To: Grampa Dave
It just keeps getting better and better!
8 posted on 05/02/2003 10:49:08 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: knighthawk
As Secretary Powell stated, there will be "consequences".
9 posted on 05/02/2003 10:51:27 AM PDT by azhenfud
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To: knighthawk; MadIvan
Pinging MadIvan for your comments!
10 posted on 05/02/2003 10:53:38 AM PDT by azhenfud
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To: Grampa Dave
Remember that Monday is Cinco de Mayo which is the day the small Mexican Army BEAT THE FRENCH and threw them out of the country. Remember to have some tequila to spite the French!!!
11 posted on 05/02/2003 10:55:19 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers
We will celebrate it with an American Made Tequilla!
12 posted on 05/02/2003 11:01:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: knighthawk
Basing forces in Eastern Europe is a good thing from an economic standpoint. Further, we should reward our friends, like Poland, and withdraw financial support from unfriendly nations, like Germany.

That being said, the United States may be developing dangerous liabilities by committing, de facto, to the freedom of Poland, the Baltic states, Hungary, Romania, et. al. Should a Franco-German-Russian axis continue to develop, the United States would have difficulty supplying our forces in Poland or the Baltic states from Britain over hundreds of miles of unfriendly sea, air, and land space. Similarly, we would have difficulty supplying our troops in Romania and Bulgaria, given the likely hostility of traditional Russian allies Greece and Serbia, as well as Croatia and Slovenia, former Austrian provinces whose current independence was midwifed by Germany.

Americans should deplore Germany's opposition to the Iraqi war. However, we should hope for regime change in Germany, to restore that nation to alliance with America and Britain.

13 posted on 05/02/2003 11:05:04 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Southack
GW's great speech last night on the Abraham Lincoln left no doubt of what awaits our enemies and those who try to stab us in the back like France, Germany and Russia did.

14 posted on 05/02/2003 11:06:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: knighthawk
Dear Germany,

Du. Du hasst. Du hasst mich.

Signed,
GWB

15 posted on 05/02/2003 11:10:13 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (All generalizations are false.)
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To: knighthawk

...to locations in "new" Europe, including Bulgaria, Romania, Poland and Hungary...

Interestingly, there is no mention of the Baltic States, or the Czech and Slovak republics, probably because, in the event of any announced U.S. intention to deploy forces in Estonia, Latvia and/or Lithuania, the Russians have made it plain they would counter this by either (i) launching a pre-emptive invasion of these countries to ensure there isn't the remotest potential of any land-based WMDs (IRBMs) being placed within 'lobbing range' of Leningrad, or (ii) putting their forces back in Cuba, and preparing Cuban ports for 'visits' by their IRBM-carrying subs

Even the placement of U.S. forces in Bulgaria, Rumania, Poland or Hungary may well elicit a very hostile reaction by the Russians. As I say, this is all very interesting if it puts the BRPHs on the 'frontlines' of a new 'Cold War' in which the Russians (with the acquiescence of "old" Europe?) put a squeeze on "new" Europe.

16 posted on 05/02/2003 12:05:56 PM PDT by I. M. Trenchant
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To: knighthawk
A dramatic shift of American military forces from bases in Germany to locations in "new" Europe, including Bulgaria, Romania, Poland and Hungary

Memo to Pootie:

     hehehe
17 posted on 05/02/2003 12:16:32 PM PDT by polemikos
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