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Saudis welcome U.S. pullout but fear for future
Reuters | 4/30/03 | Andrew Hammond

Posted on 04/30/2003 8:53:18 AM PDT by kattracks

Saudis welcome U.S. pullout but fear for future

By Andrew Hammond

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (Reuters) - Many Saudis Wednesday welcomed a U.S. decision to pull troops out of the birthplace of Islam, but also said they were afraid it would affect an internal debate over reform in the strict Sunni kingdom.

"Let them go home. The Americans prove every day that they are selfish and ruled by delusions of power," said Nasser al-Hamdan, a Riyadh trader.

The U.S. troop presence has long irked many Saudis, already angry with Washington over its perceived bias toward Israel. The United States used Saudi Arabia as a launch pad for the 1991 Gulf War to oust Iraqi troops from Kuwait and later as a base to police a "no-fly" zone over southern Iraq.

It was among the first grievances aired by Saudi-born Islamic militant Osama bin Laden to justify attacks against the United States. Washington blames bin Laden for the attacks on the Pentagon and the World Trade Center in September 2001, in which 15 of the 19 suicide hijackers were Saudi nationals.

"This is a way for the Americans and Saudi Arabia to part on good terms and it's in everyone's interest for the time being," said Mohammed al-Khereijy, a journalist from Jeddah.

"But I'm worried that instead of thinking about the economy and education, people might cling to another issue that will suck the energy out of any possible progression."

Sahl Kurdi, another Jeddah resident, had similar concerns.

"I was concerned about what it could mean for our relationship with the States," he said.

"Does it mean things will still be dandy or are things going down? I'd rather have a good relationship than bad."

ALLIANCE FRAYS

Analysts say the move, announced Tuesday, illustrated how much one of the Middle East's oldest alliances had frayed since the Sept. 11 attacks.

It also came amid a great debate in the oil-rich kingdom, ruled by the Saudi royal family in alliance with a hard-line Sunni religious establishment, over political and social reform. The clerics are suspicious of the reform talk, which some in the ruling family support.

"I'm happy they're going but the fundamentalists will exploit their absence to grow in strength and control the people and their freedom," said Nasser Mubarak Sinan, 45.

In January, public figures gave Crown Prince Abdullah a reform petition calling for an elected parliament, women's rights and equality between different groups in the kingdom, dominated by Bedouin tribes from the central Riyadh area.

"Foreign forces in a weak but rich country like Saudi Arabia are necessary," said Ahmed Qahtani, 38. "Their leaving is a loss for Saudi Arabia."

Shaheed Quraish, a Shi'ite from al-Qatif on the east coast, said the kingdom needed a functioning army of its own as part of a wider process of modernization which would include participation of marginalized groups.

"Having the Americans here causes a lot of trouble, because our soldiers end up just relying on them. The Saudi (royal family) would rather pay the Americans to protect them," he said, adding it was a mystery to many citizens why the country had no serious army of its own.

"They don't want to lose Saudi lives, or they cannot depend on Saudi soldiers? It doesn't make sense," he said. "Sometimes they say that they simply depend on God."

(Additional reporting by Fahd Frayyan)

04/30/03 11:39 ET


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: miliarybases; qatar; saudiarabia
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1 posted on 04/30/2003 8:53:18 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"Let them go home. The Americans prove every day that they are selfish and ruled by delusions of power,"

You can plainly see our future in this statement. The clearly think the two cultures are equal but not for our overwhelming military advantage.

The only hope these cretins have of leveling the playing field is in the use of WMD's, especially the nuclear variety.
2 posted on 04/30/2003 8:56:44 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: kattracks
Incredibly ironic that Bin Laden is getting what he wanted. Although we should never have had troops there to begin with. Now lets get out of Germany, Korea, Japan, Bosnia...
3 posted on 04/30/2003 8:57:47 AM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: kattracks
"Let them go home. The Americans prove every day that they are selfish and ruled by delusions of power," said Nasser al-Hamdan, a Riyadh trader.

Que?

4 posted on 04/30/2003 8:59:18 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: kattracks
"Let them go home. The Americans prove every day that they are selfish and ruled by delusions of power," said Nasser al-Hamdan, a Riyadh trader.

If it weren't for American power you would be speaking Iraqi, you sorry ingrate.

5 posted on 04/30/2003 8:59:41 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Get High on Life, Not Drugs)
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To: kattracks
If the Saudi royal family falls to a radical revolt, and if we have to go into Saudi Arabia and straighten things out--as I devoutly hope--and if we have to break up the country, then it will certainly look better if we are no longer based there before it all happens. Let the Saudis fall without any implication that we were responsible for engineering it.

Sure, it's inefficient to pull your forces out and then go back in, but on the whole it would be better PR.
6 posted on 04/30/2003 9:00:57 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kattracks
The more Americans we can get off of the soil of ungrateful foriegners the better.
7 posted on 04/30/2003 9:01:50 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (At Least I'm Relevent)
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To: kinghorse
Sheikhdoms are not amenable to having a strong military of their own...having one threatens their power structure. A weak military reduces the likelyhood of a coup.

I would bet that the Saud's didn't want us to leave, but had to bow to the pressure of the Mutaween wackjobs.
8 posted on 04/30/2003 9:02:55 AM PDT by Guillermo (Sic 'em!)
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To: Flurry
It'd be hard to find bigger ingrates outside of the French...
9 posted on 04/30/2003 9:21:59 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kattracks
It's really getting difficult to determine exactly what makes so many Arabs so contemptable...

Is it their brand of Islam --- are is it simply being Arab?

Semper Fi
10 posted on 04/30/2003 9:30:30 AM PDT by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: StockAyatollah
Incredibly ironic that Bin Laden is getting what he wanted.

Fortunately he's not around to savor the moment.

11 posted on 04/30/2003 9:37:43 AM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I don't thnk we have any bases there.
12 posted on 04/30/2003 10:22:18 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (At Least I'm Relevent)
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To: Flurry
Count us lucky in that regard.
13 posted on 04/30/2003 10:25:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kinghorse
Washington blames bin Laden for the attacks on the Pentagon and the World Trade Center in September 2001

I guess Reuters thinks the jury is still out on that one.

14 posted on 04/30/2003 10:37:01 AM PDT by Defiant (Iraqtion. That swelling pride that results from raising the staff of freedom.)
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To: kattracks
We have just removed the biggest threat to the area. There is no longer any need for us to be there. Operation Southern Watch is now over, we don't need to be in SA in order to continue guarding the Iraqis in southern Iraq.

We told them when we went in that our purpose was to protect the Iraqi people and the Saudis from Saddam, he's gone, we can leave. Too bad they misinterpreted our reason for being there but that's their problem not ours.

I watched Rumsfeld's "town hall" meeting with our guys in Iraq and he said we would be reassessing our footprint all over the world. Looks like troops will be leaving a lot of places in the near future. All the better for us.

Selfish? Does this moron have any idea how much it cost the US taxpayer to protect his butt?

15 posted on 04/30/2003 10:40:30 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: kattracks
Morons!

They haven't figured out that they've created their own future?
Pompous asses.

16 posted on 04/30/2003 10:43:07 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: kattracks
....one more time....how many hijackers on 911 were from Saudi Arabia?
17 posted on 04/30/2003 10:57:26 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: StockAyatollah
He is not getting what he wanted. Returning to thepre Gulf War I status quo with Iraq gone is not what Osama desired.

He wants Mecca and Medina. He wants the control of the Two Holy Mosques that is now in the hands of the Saud family.

18 posted on 04/30/2003 11:04:25 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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To: taxed2death
Equating 911 hijackers with Saudi's is like equating Americans to LA Gangbangers.

There might be some, but most are not.

19 posted on 04/30/2003 11:07:26 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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To: kattracks
"...The Americans prove every day that they are selfish and ruled by delusions of power," said Nasser al-Hamdan, a Riyadh trader.

Ain't no delusion, cupcake.

20 posted on 04/30/2003 11:12:22 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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