Human rights law passed- Gays, lesbians get protection

Cincinnati Post ^ | April 30, 2003 | Mike Rutledge

[Laurie S]

"What about domestic partnerships for unmarried straight couples? "

those actually exist in some states. The difference between that couple and a gay couple is, the het couple has the option to marry any time they want. Heck, 2 complete het strangers can meet up and get married in vegas by an asian elvis impersonator at a quicky wedding chapel and it's all perfectly legal under the law. If monogomous gay couples wish to have a legal union under the law, why do we want to stop that? In effect we are saying, no, stay single and continuing dating.. don't settle down.. ever! I really don't get the anti-gay lobby.

[scripter]

Pedophilia is a paraphiliac mental illness, not a sexual orientation.

So you say, but believing something to be faslse doesn't make it false, just like believing something to be true doesn't make it true. Here's a pedophile that disagrees with you:

Pedophilia is a sexual-orientation, like heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, etc. ...

The bottom line is pedophiles must no longer be victims of hate-crimes and censorship for their beliefs. We must unite and stand against intolerance until we are accepted like gays are. My being a pedophile is simply a sexual-orientation, nothing more.

There's a lot more there and I encourage everyone to read the above website.

You can choose to rent or to not rent to anyone so long as you have a valid reason for exclusion.

You're not listening. No, I can't, not with laws similar to this one. You know this but insist it isn't true.

If he can’t prove that that was your motivation then he doesn’t have a case.

The damage is already done - that's the point. This law just creates more victims.

[Vinnie]

Covington's new law bans discrimination based on age, sexual orientation

There is that phrase again,sexual orientation.

That could cover a lot of things, animals, children, etc

One day, probably not very far off, the letter of the law and not the spirit of the law will set this issue on its head.

[scripter]

And what makes you think that that individual's opinion is pertinent to the discussion? Does he write the laws, set legal precedent, or alter the tenets of scientific discovery?

Nice attempt at misdirection. His opinion carries as much weight as yours. As far as scientific discovery, there's as much evidence to support pedophilia is genetic as their is that homosexuality is genetic. In other words, none.

You have fallen prey to the rhetoric. The law does not "force" you to rent to anyone... that's a lie. You make it sound like you'll be prosecuted for leaving an apartment vacant and that is ridiculously untrue.

You are being very disingenuous here and everyone can see it. With this new law, if I chose to rent to one person and not another who just so happened to be homosexual, the homosexual now has his sexual orientation to use as victim status.

If you read the procedures you will see that the burden of proof in on the one bringing the complaint. He brings the complaint with WHAT evidence? An anecdote? "He said, she said?" There would have to be witnesses, and/or a paper trail, and/or an admission on the owner's part before the commission could take any legal action. There's no "damage" there, unless you were demostrably engaging in invidious discrimination.

Again you are being very disingenuous or you have never been in business for yourself. You're not fooling anybody. While the truth may get sorted out in court there's a lot of damage in the process in regards to time, money, and reputation, but you don't appear to care as long as you get to push your agenda.

[First Amendment]

Again, you simply confirm the analogy. Religious behaviour can be benefical, benign, or harmful (one need only consider the examples of John Paul II, the average undistinguished chruchgoer, and Osama bin Laden, respectively).

Sorry, you're wrong. The law protects religious freedom, and prohibits discrimination against people because they practice a particular religion. People such as Osama bin Laden do not fit into this category because he is an evil madman, not a regular Muslim. If a Muslim peacefully practices charity, namaz, etc then there is no reason to discriminate against him. If a Muslim straps on bombs etc then discriminating against him is not because of his religion but because of his criminal acts. So-called religious behavior that is evil (such as the afore mentioned examples, there are many more) are not evil because they are religious, they are evil because they are criminal. The actors are using religion as a pretense to shield or justify their criminal acts.

Additionally, sexual behavior can be benign, beneficial or harmful in ways that are quantifiable. You (apparently) would not agree, but on FR there is more information available than anywhere on the planet illustrating the harmful nature of homosexual behavior.

[Antoninus]

No matter what these idiots say, buggery is not a civil right.

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

LOL! No one's talking about non-human marriage.

LOL!!! Yes, we are takling about trying to make an un-natural act the basis of marriage. But, if you want to be judgmental and deny someone their rights you may try to do so. LOL!!!

So you are OK with fathers getting married to their daughters. Since that is two humans, and that is the only basis you want for marriage (two humans wanting it) you must be OK with incest.

And please let us know what God you worship when you say "God Bless." It's not the God of Christianity or the Jewish faith. Or Muslim for that matter. All of those Gods insist that honosexual acts are sin.

[Antoninus]

Gays and lesbians are second class citizens in this country, unfortunately. They aren't allowed to marry. They can get fired from their jobs if their boss find out their gay.

Yes, when will we learn. My wives and I are second class citizens also. So is my transvestite brother, who is also one of my life-partners. We're not allowed to marry. It's a travesty. And my hooker got fired from her job as a teacher because her boss found out about her night job. Evil, closed-minded SOB.

Excuse me, my fiancee, BoBo the chimp is calling me...

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

If you didn't flee good for you; FReep on and let the others explain to both of us why they weren't there, too.

Your post has nothing to do with the discussion. Please let me know why you endorse killing, assuming that you endorse homosexua relationships between men? Why should we endores and condone homosexual men spreading AIDS? AIDS kills. Honosexuality kills.

[Antoninus]

Under the constitution all men are created equal. It does not say 'except if you're gay'. Gays should have the right to marry. Who care's if they have sex with eachother?

Just answer this one question: Should two homosexual brothers be allowed to "marry"? Yes or no?

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

Government has no rightful role in marriage.

Actually, it does. Govt. has a role in keeping society stable. The foundation for doing that is the family with a father and mother. Therefore the govt. should promote marriage between mother and father. Since homosexuals can't have children they have no reason for marriage (other than to try and normalize their deviant behavour).

[Kuksool]

Many liberal pastors of Mainline Denominations bless homosexual partnerhips. Also interesting to note, Islam condemns homosexuality, yet permits a man to have four wives, provided he can treat all of them justly. Thus, as the Muslim population continues to grow in America, will the Muslims flex their political muscle to legalize polygamy on religious and sexual orientation grounds.

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

Under the constitution all men are created equal. It does not say 'except if you're gay'. Gays should have the right to marry.

LOL!!! What a silly statement! LOL!!! Homosexuals have the same rights as non-homosexuals. Trying to use "all men are created equal" to give special rights based on what type of sex acts one performs is obsurd! Remember it's "all men are created equal" not "all men are created equal but homosexuals should have more rights." LOL!!!

Oh... God help you!

[Antoninus]

boys of the same sex” is redundant. Pedophilia is a paraphiliac mental illness, not a sexual orientation.

It wasn't long ago that homosexuality or SSAD was also classified as such. Just because the homosexual segment of APA became powerful enough to get that changed, doesn't mean that SSAD isn't still a mental illness. Tell me, of all the "gays" you know, what percentage of them would you say are/were in therapy of some sort or suffer from some sort of pathology (addiction, eating disorder, obsessive/compulsive, narcissistic personality, etc.)? For me, it's about 90% and I've known perhaps several dozen "gays."

It does "gays" no good to enable their behavior. It only leads them further down the path to self-destruction. In all honesty, I think that those who tell them there is way out--that they need not be slaves to their unnatural passions--do them a much greater service.

[Protagoras]

Actually, it does.

Actually, it doesn't.

The role of government in a free society is to defend rights. Not to keep things stable.

Stablity is another term for stagnation. You might like things stable (living to 53 yrs old on average and owning slaves) , but I don't.

PS........Please see the Declaration of Independence for confirmation of the rightful role of government in the American expeience.

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

Many liberal pastors of Mainline Denominations bless homosexual partnerhips.

And if you ask these pastors if the Bible is the inerrant word of God they will either refuse to answer or say no. Therefore, they are not believers. Most maniline pastors are social workers, not teachers of God's word. They teach man's way not God's way. It's very sad.