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When Clones Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Clones
Sierra Times ^ | April 24, 2003 | J. Neil Schulman

Posted on 04/24/2003 12:24:35 PM PDT by J. Neil Schulman

I’ve written for The Twilight Zone. Let me take you there.

It’s yearbook photo day for Springfield Junior High’s class of 2025. Jason’s been avoiding getting his picture taken. His teacher wonders why until she looks in a yearbook from a generation ago and finds a photo of a student who looks identical to Jason.

A mandatory reporter, Jason’s teacher phones authorities. They investigate, arrest Jason’s father for violation of the Human Cloning Prohibition Act of 2003, and place Jason in a foster home.

This law isn’t science fiction. H.R. 534 has already been passed by the United States House of Representatives. A final vote on S. 245, the identical Senate version, is still pending.

The bills should be defeated. They haven’t been thought through.

Cloning Human Organs for Replacement

Cloning is a potential form of replacing failing human organs. Right now the only way to replace a failing kidney, liver, heart, or lung is to cannibalize the organ from another human being. In the case of an organ such as the heart, which a potential donor could not live without, this requires a newly dead human body to cannibalize.

There’s always much more need for replacement organs than there are donors. Sometimes doctors let a patient die rather than extend resuscitation efforts because they know they have a patient who needs an organ transplant. In other countries, people are murdered to cannibalize their organs and sell them to the highest bidder on the black market.

Cannibalizing organs from other people also entails the risk of rejection because of incompatibilities, not only for tissue-typing but also for gross anatomical mismatches. Cloning organs, once the science has been perfected, which requires letting the research continue to fruition, has the potential of taking a human being's own genetic material and growing perfect replacement organs which are fully compatible with their genetic makeup. It would not necessarily require any killing in order to produce such replacement organs because they might be grown right within the human body of the person who needs them.

Human cloning is potentially a far better solution to the problem of saving the lives of people dying from organ failure than engaging in latter-day human cannibalism.

Making Twin Children

A human clone -- more precisely, a baby that is the identical twin of only one parent -- will be no less a fully human individual than an identical twin brother or sister.

Having a twin child might be the only sort of healthy baby which a couple might be able to have, just as in vitro fertilization and surrogate motherhood have already given children to other couples with reproductive challenges.

Just as one example, if there is a genetically transmitted disease or defect that one spouse in a marriage carries, and the other spouse does not, a couple wishing children carrying their own natural traits currently have no options.

Growing a baby from the genes of only one parent, the defect-free one, would allow the couple to have a child of their own without going outside their marriage. The holiness of their marriage would therefore be preserved without bringing the genetic material from an outsider, possibly that of an unknown stranger, into the sanctity of their marriage, adulterating it.

Another Potential Alternative to Adoption

Currently a couple who have barriers to normal reproduction for a variety of reasons must either remain childless or graft a child from some other family into their own family and hope the transplant will work. The euphemism for this act of high charity and blind faith is "adoption."

Preserving a natural family line is not merely superstitious worship of blood. Adoption is a wonderful thing for some parents and some children, but adoption does not preserve a family’s natural traits. If a child with natural musical gifts is adopted by a family that sees no value in spending money on violin lessons for a four-year-old, we could lose the next Joshua Bell. Likewise, if a family of violin virtuosos adopts a child from a non-musical family, forcing a musical education on a child without the natural gifts to benefit from it may prove both frustrating for the parents and psychologically damaging to the child, whose true gifts may reside elsewhere, undiscovered.

Invasion of the Family by the State

It’s no business of the government to dictate to a family how to have children. Only the arrogant hubris of a dictatorial regime dares to interfere with the right of free human beings to self-determine their own reproduction. The State has no rightful business telling parents how to go about having their own babies. It is blatantly unAmerican.

The War Against Science, the War Against Conscience

Laws which cripple the ability of scientists to pursue research potentially beneficial to humanity are destructive of free inquiry, and law should apply only in those cases where one human being is violating the rights of another human being. Regardless of those who claim the mantle to know the mind of God, human cells or even organs are not human beings and do not have human rights. Kidneys do not have souls. Livers do not have souls.

It’s a theologically debatable question whether embryos have souls. Some religious traditions maintain that a soul does not even enter a human body until the baby takes its first breath. It is a form of religious coercion -- government by theocracy -- to allow one religion's or sect's article of faith to dictate matters of personal conscience to people of other beliefs. It is destructive to the fundamental values of a free society for law to replace individual conscience on matters which, for those who believe, can only be answered in prayer to the Almighty.

Left Behind

Moving beyond the theological basis for moral concerns about cloning, it is self annihilating for a society to outlaw an entire field of scientific research. A society which declares war on science is relegating itself to the dustbin of history. It is crippling its economic growth, its competitiveness, its spirit of adventure. It is cultural suicide. It is damning one's progeny. It is making the human mind a prisoner to the fears of the ignorant.

Perhaps we do not know how to clone a human being safely today. Banning cloning and cloning research guarantees that we will not know how to do so tomorrow. It is a form of antiscientific terrorism, a form of Ludditism.

It is also the Sin of Pride, because it assumes that when God gave human beings that He cloned in His image independent minds, He expected us never to attempt anything new with those independent minds.

Back Alley Clones

When clones are outlawed, only outlaws will have clones. In a back-alley abortion, there is no surviving baby who will live to wonder, like an illegal twin would have to worry, like Jason, that when their yearbook photo is compared to their parent's high-school yearbook photo, it will lead to the parent's imprisonment for a Reproduction Violation.

Will the Human Cloning Prohibition Act of 2003 lead to a future where we have orphanages and foster homes filled with displaced twins treated as second-class citizens because one of their parents went overseas or to an underground clinic to obtain an illegal pregnancy?

Who Ya Gonna Call?

Isn't it strange that when it comes to trying to figure out the ethical and practical problems that exist in the future, nobody in Congress even bothers asking the people who spend more time than anyone else thinking about the future -- science fiction writers? I'm a science fiction writer. I explored the ethics of cloning technology in my novel, The Rainbow Cadenza, which was first published twenty years ago.

No Congressional representative or senator has ever asked me to give testimony before a House or Senate committee.

People with no imagination should not be in charge of putting a red light on our future. I’m not saying introducing a fundamental new way of having babies should be green-lighted. But can’t a free society agree to an amber light and proceed with caution?


In addition to having written for The Twilight Zone, J. Neil Schulman is author of the Prometheus-award-winning science-fiction novel, The Rainbow Cadenza, which explores in detail the ethics of new biotechnology such as cloning. His newest novel is the comic theological fantasy, Escape from Heaven.

Copyright © 2003 by J. Neil Schulman. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: biotechnology; clone; cloning; ethics; medical; organ; reproductive; rights; transplants
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To: J. Neil Schulman
Good to see you here! It's Monique, remember me? :-)
21 posted on 04/24/2003 2:57:41 PM PDT by coydog
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To: Poohbah
Uh, how would tampering with the sample THEN cloning the sample(sans certain coding) be wrong?

You'd have a better argument if you said that you should not change the coding of a full human to an incomplete one.

As for if somehow something goes wrong, well jeez, if something goes wrong with anything I guess we should just sit still and not leave the house.

Somethin' might go wrong. BTW, are you a death penalty proponent?
22 posted on 04/24/2003 3:00:17 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
What are we supposed to have learned from Adolph Hitler, in your view?

That you should have to ask proves that you haven't a clue what someone could do with cloning if they they wanted to turn it into a weapon against civilisation as we know it.
23 posted on 04/24/2003 3:01:40 PM PDT by John Lenin (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: IYAS9YAS; Skywalk; Poohbah; John Lenin; Coleus; Remedy; rhema; J. Neil Schulman
Oh my, so many faulty assertions and so little time to refute them,

It’s a theologically debatable question whether embryos have souls. Some religious traditions maintain that a soul does not even enter a human body until the baby takes its first breath. It is a form of religious coercion -- government by theocracy -- to allow one religion's or sect's article of faith to dictate matters of personal conscience to people of other beliefs. It is destructive to the fundamental values of a free society for law to replace individual conscience on matters which, for those who believe, can only be answered in prayer to the Almighty.

It's not necessary to appeal to 'soul (I prefer spirit here, but we'll continue) of the individual in order to oppose reproductive or therapeutic cloning.

In modern Embryology textbooks, you will discover that the first principle of the Science of Embryology is that ‘every individual life is a continuum of unbroken processes whereby an individual alive organism is expressing its life, and that continuum has a beginning, a starting point that is that individual’s conception.’

Manipulations such as in vitro fertilization, somatic cell nuclear transfer (cloning), embryonic stem cell research, amniocentesis, and tests for genetic anomalies like Downs Syndrome, all are based upon this ‘first principle’ of Embryology. For these processes to have meaning, first the scientists and technicians must hold that the processes are dealing with an already alive individual’s characteristics, else the tests would be too non-specific to form medical assumptions regarding the alive individual organism tested.

Human whole organism cloning is accomplished by ‘somatic cell nuclear transfer’, taking a living cell from a donor human, removing the nuclear material and inserting that nuclear material into an ‘enucleated’ (nuclear material removed) female gamete, or sex cell, ovum, then zapping that combination with an electrical charge that stimulates cellular replication, expressing an individual human organism. The female ovum from which the 23 chromosome nuclear material has been removed, receives the 46 chromosome nuclear material for a ‘complete human organism’, thus the newly conceived individual life has the theoretical ability to then go through the entire series of cellular divisions (mitosis) which give rise to the amniotic sac and the growing individual human body, complete with all the normal organs and tissues.

‘Reproductive cloning’ conceives via somatic cell nuclear transfer and sustains that individual being all the way to 40 week developmental age and birth.

So called ‘therapeutic cloning’ utilizes in vitro conception and growth of an individual human being, but the new individual will not be allowed to live and grow to the full 40 weeks and be born. Instead, the newly conceived individuals will be killed and their body parts—from cells to organs¾will be harvested for use in treating diseases of or injuries to older individual humans (older than embryos). In truth, both ‘types’ of cloning are reproductive, but the end use of the newly conceived individual human determines which name to give the process.

Will individual human life continue to have sanctity or be reduced to mere utility?

Perhaps some believe it isn’t so wrong to conceive embryos and kill them for their body parts, their stem cells, but the processes will not stop there, with that level of cannibalism. There is ongoing effort--well underway--to build an artificial womb, and then conceive and gestate an individual alive human being all the way to the full 40 weeks of development and birth. This marvel will also allow the scientists to stop at any age along the continuum of the lifetime begun at conception and harvest the individual’s body parts … and it will be the owner of the conceived individual and the life supporting machinery that will determine when to kill and harvest, or support for birth!

Why is human cloning bad? … There are many reasons cited by opponents, but it is wrong primarily because the manipulation of individual humans in their earliest age as individual embryonic beings is dehumanizing … dehumanizing for the individuals so conceived for their utility and dehumanizing for the society, which embraces such cannibalism.

The moral ‘line in the sand’ ought to be determined by whether an individual human being is maimed, killed, or discarded in the process of manipulating that individual human lifetime begun at conception. Answer to that question is what our society is not being given in the current debates. And when some portion of the truth regarding these manipulative processes arises, the deeper truth--that even the embryo is an individual human being at its earliest age along its unique continuum of life--is obfuscated, dismissed, ignored, or denied.

Science may one day be able to reproduce a part of the whole organism, as in growing only a kidney that is a perfect tissue match for the individual from whom the genetic nuclear material is taken; that would be an embraceable medical miracle. But as it’s now undertaken, with ‘therapeutic cloning’, an alive individual being very closely matched genetically to the donor of the nuclear material is given life support until the organs of that individual (embryonic stem cells are the organs of the embryo) differentiate sufficiently to be harvested for use with an older individual being treated for a disease or injury. That is, in all truth, cannibalism as surely as if the medical personnel instructed the person being treated to eat the parts taken from the clone in order to treat the disease or injury.

[ To cannibalize, according to NEW WEBSTER’S DICTIONARY, is : to repair (vehicles or aircraft) by using parts from other vehicles, instead of using spare parts. Are human’s now to be reduced to the utility of aircraft or vehicles, to be cannibalized for their living parts? ]

24 posted on 04/24/2003 3:06:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Skywalk
Uh, how would tampering with the sample THEN cloning the sample(sans certain coding) be wrong?

It continues the trend of commoditizing human life.

You'd have a better argument if you said that you should not change the coding of a full human to an incomplete one.

The human reproductive process goes awry enough as it is without human intervention. Are you so arrogant as to assume that we would never make a mistake?

As for if somehow something goes wrong, well jeez, if something goes wrong with anything I guess we should just sit still and not leave the house.

Some things have very high price tags attached to their going wrong. I realize that you frankly don't give a s**t about your fellow man unless he's personally useful to you; I sincerely hope, for your sake, any offspring you sire have a significantly better attitude, or they're going to put you out of your misery when they want your assets.

Somethin' might go wrong. BTW, are you a death penalty proponent?

In cases where there is overwhelming evidence that the accused did it, yes.

That means I also accept the 14-20 year appeals process as the price of doing business.

25 posted on 04/24/2003 3:06:13 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: blam; Alamo-Girl; backhoe; Woahhs; Victoria Delsoul; William Wallace; f.Christian; Bryan; ...
Pin-a-ling-a-ling ... time to step in, folks.
26 posted on 04/24/2003 3:11:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Skywalk
The brain is what makes us truly human, so if they can make cloned bags without brains (and other non-essential parts) I don't see the problem, though it would be grotesque.

The Right Rev. Al Sharpton might be a tad portly, but 'grotesque?" Hardly.

27 posted on 04/24/2003 3:11:31 PM PDT by strela ("... you're lucky you still have your brown paper bag, small change ...")
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To: John Lenin
And you think the Dr. Evils of the world won't do that anyway, that the technology and research won't find a home SOMEWHERE on this globe?

What if France decides to research it and leads the way in organ cloning? Should the US nuke France to prevent the next Hitler from gaining that technology??

And BTW, can you elaborate on what you think a Hitler would have done with genetic engineering? I'm assuming you aren't talking about virus-making here, as one can do this without cloning. So are you afraid of a population of blonde, blue-eyeds? Are you afraid of cloned armies?

I'm not mocking you, I really want you to give me one possible outcome that you fear will come about as a result of cloning.
28 posted on 04/24/2003 3:23:44 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
The 'every body else is doing it, why can't I' argument is a bit juvenile, don'tcha think?
29 posted on 04/24/2003 3:26:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Skywalk
Put it this way, the world will have to be destroyed before you are going to get enough people to go along with government mandated cloning. It's a repulsive idea.
30 posted on 04/24/2003 3:28:49 PM PDT by John Lenin (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: Poohbah
"I realize that you frankly don't give a s**t about your fellow man unless he's personally useful to you; I sincerely hope, for your sake, any offspring you sire have a significantly better attitude, or they're going to put you out of your misery when they want your assets."

Wow, it went from a debate about cloning and the morality of cloning YOUR OWN MATERIAL(not killing and harvesting others, where are you getting that from?) to me being a cold-hearted user of my fellow humans. Disgusting personal attack, but typical. You might have instead just made your point without launching into such attacks, as you don't know me enough to make such a statement. For there to be a moral cost, I must assume that you speak of cloning and killing full humans. When you say that even manipulating genetic material is wrong, you paint yourself into an irrational extremist corner. Should we also refuse genetic therapy for cystic fibrosis? And what of the possible evolutionary costs? We've been genetically engineering plants and animals for millenia. It's been much less precise, but it's been DELIBERATE which is what really separates it from "natural selection." I don't see you condemning that or the hue and cry over commodifying life(human or not.)

31 posted on 04/24/2003 3:30:24 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
Sure, France will start cloning so people can live to be 130 years old, how do you suppose we pay for prolonging life beyond 100 years of age ?
32 posted on 04/24/2003 3:31:41 PM PDT by John Lenin (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: MHGinTN
Who said I brought up that argument?

I'm asking about what the consequences would be if another country attempts cloning research?

Also, the very same question could be asked about thermonuclear weapons and other military research. Such technology is "good" when used by us, and BAD when used by someone evil.

You do realize that guns and automobiles and planes and chemicals have all been used for evil, as well. How is a nuclear device LESS destructive than cloning?
33 posted on 04/24/2003 3:32:49 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: John Lenin
Government MANDATED?

Where are you getting THAT from?

I'm sorry, where's my mandated City-killer nuclear warhead?! I WANT MY WARHEAD!

I wasn't aware that all of us would be forced to produce clones of ourselves.

(and for what purpose?)
34 posted on 04/24/2003 3:34:24 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
Intelligent Imbecile, look it up.
35 posted on 04/24/2003 3:35:13 PM PDT by John Lenin (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: John Lenin
OK.

Good example, but you sound like an environmentalist who wishes to oppose prolonged human life because it might cause "imbalance."

Assuming the technique would allow for people to live to 130 years old, wouldn't it also allow for people to have "younger" physiologies so that they needn't be pensioners at age 65 anymore?
36 posted on 04/24/2003 3:35:54 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
Oh sure, raising retirement age to 90 is going to be Real politically popular.
37 posted on 04/24/2003 3:37:44 PM PDT by John Lenin (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: Skywalk
Wow, it went from a debate about cloning and the morality of cloning YOUR OWN MATERIAL(not killing and harvesting others, where are you getting that from?) to me being a cold-hearted user of my fellow humans.

That's another human being you've just created, not "your own material."

Disgusting personal attack, but typical.

You're advancing the utilitarian argument; I'm merely extrapolating your position to its logical conclusion.

When you say that even manipulating genetic material is wrong, you paint yourself into an irrational extremist corner.

Deliberately altering the reproductive process to induce a gross birth defect, solely to give yourself a figleaf to pretend that you're not creating a human being, is irrational and extremist.

Should we also refuse genetic therapy for cystic fibrosis?

One involves creating human beings solely for personal convenience. The other does not.

And what of the possible evolutionary costs?

You don't seem to give a damn about them--you just want to induce massive birth defects so you can "maintain the fiction."

38 posted on 04/24/2003 3:37:47 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: MHGinTN
BTTT!!!!!
39 posted on 04/24/2003 3:37:59 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: John Lenin
So you'd rather insult me than address the points I've made?

Fine.

What have you said that makes your argument powerful or persuasive? You've hinted at some doomsday scenario, and brought up an enviromentalist argument against medical technology extending human life, but not much more.

You've also talked of government MANDATED cloning, which seems odd as I've never heard anyone bring up that idea. You also have argued from the philosophical view that if you ban research into something, someone evil won't continue research and apply it in an evil manner.

Heard of the Soviet Union?

At least MHG went through a long list of points. I'll read them in a few minutes.


40 posted on 04/24/2003 3:41:01 PM PDT by Skywalk
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