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Dems secretly wish for Iraq disaster
The Washington Times

Posted on 04/20/2003 4:37:54 PM PDT by liberateUS

Gary Kamiya, executive editor of the left-leaning Internet journal Salon (www.salon.com), confirms what some Americans have only suspected: Liberals were cheering for the enemy in Iraq. "I have a confession: I have at times, as the war has unfolded, secretly wished for things to go wrong," Mr. Kamiya wrote last week. "Wished for the Iraqis to be more nationalistic, to resist longer. Wished for the Arab world to rise up in rage. Wished for all the things we feared would happen. I'm not alone: A number of serious, intelligent, morally sensitive people who oppose the war have told me they have had identical feelings." More casualties would have been a preferred alternative to the "larger moral negative" of a victory that boosted President Bush's chances for re-election, he said. "Many antiwar commentators have argued that once the war started, even those who oppose it must now wish for the quickest, least-bloody victory followed by the maximum possible liberation of the Iraqi people," he wrote. "But there is one argument against this: What if you are convinced that an easy victory will ultimately result in a larger moral negative — four more years of Bush, for example, with attendant disastrous policies, or the betrayal of the Palestinians to eternal occupation, or more imperialist meddling in the Middle East or elsewhere? "Wishing for things to go wrong is the logical corollary of the postulate that the better things go for Bush, the worse they will go for America and the rest of the world."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheeringtheenemy; diversity; garykamiya; hollywood; movies; tolerance; tv
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Why is this revelation not getting any legs?
1 posted on 04/20/2003 4:37:54 PM PDT by liberateUS
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To: liberateUS
Probably the same reason it didn't get any in Vietnam.
2 posted on 04/20/2003 4:40:48 PM PDT by dagar
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To: liberateUS
Because more than 90% of journalists are liberals.
3 posted on 04/20/2003 4:40:58 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: liberateUS
If Kamiya's position is legitimate, then so is my postulate that anyone who votes for a RAT is committing treason.
4 posted on 04/20/2003 4:48:05 PM PDT by clintonh8r (You can have no better friend and no worse enemy than a U.S. Marine.)
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To: liberateUS
They would rather more die for their political gain? They are pigs.
5 posted on 04/20/2003 4:48:14 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Bonaparte
If the Socialist newspapers put it on the front pages, the DemoRats might not win California next election. Think of all the Ca. families with men in the overseas military who would learn the truth.
6 posted on 04/20/2003 4:48:41 PM PDT by Uncle George
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To: Bonaparte
If the Socialist newspapers put it on the front pages, the DemoRats might not win California next election. Think of all the Ca. families with men in the overseas military who would learn the truth.
7 posted on 04/20/2003 4:48:42 PM PDT by Uncle George
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To: liberateUS
Why is this revelation not getting any legs?

It has, here, in several threads.

8 posted on 04/20/2003 4:48:52 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: MEG33
I think "a million Mogadishus" sums it up...
9 posted on 04/20/2003 4:49:11 PM PDT by clintonh8r (You can have no better friend and no worse enemy than a U.S. Marine.)
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To: liberateUS
It's gotten legs on FR--there was an earlier thread with a different headline--Cheering The Enemy (Suspicions confirmed:Liberals cheering for Iraqis-my title)--that had 85 comments. I wish the media would cover it more, though.
10 posted on 04/20/2003 4:49:34 PM PDT by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: Bonaparte
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11 posted on 04/20/2003 4:49:38 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: liberateUS
Here's the missing link:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/inpolitics.htm
12 posted on 04/20/2003 4:52:40 PM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: liberateUS
Mr. Kamiya said: "I have a confession: I have at times, as the war has unfolded, secretly wished for things to go wrong. Wished for the Iraqis to be more nationalistic, to resist longer. Wished for the Arab world to rise up in rage. Wished for all the things we feared would happen."

Dear Mr. Kamiya: Wish in one hand, s**t in the other, and see which one fills up first.

Have very naive life,
The United States Marines
13 posted on 04/20/2003 4:54:01 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
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To: liberateUS
Why is this revelation not getting any legs?

Why because most people consider this an obvious fact such as "Sun comes up.") and not much of a relevation.

14 posted on 04/20/2003 4:55:19 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: liberateUS
Those on the Left in government, the media, on campuses, and in the general public want things to go wrong not because America and the world might suffer (if things go Prersident Bush's way) but because they believe its the path back to the White House for the Democrats. They could care less about America, or any other nation. They only care about political power. The failure of our efforts in Iraq, the Middle East, North Korea, or any where else is their most fervant dream. They are simply that calculating and craven and cowardly. And, to carry on the alliteration, the three politicians who come to mind are Carter and Clinton and Clinton.
15 posted on 04/20/2003 5:01:38 PM PDT by Pharlap
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To: liberateUS
A couple of things: 1) He's STILL wishing for a catastrophe for America; 2) It isn't a confession at all. It's a coded way of bragging about his "purity" to his comrades.
16 posted on 04/20/2003 5:03:30 PM PDT by ricpic
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To: liberateUS
because it's completely obvious?
17 posted on 04/20/2003 5:05:17 PM PDT by thoughtomator (I predict hysteria at the UN)
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To: liberateUS
Wished for all the things we feared would happen.

If he wished for them to happen, they he couldn't really fear that they would happen, could he? What he really means is all the things he claimed to "fear" would happen, but was secretly hoping would happen. He is duplicious even in his confession.

18 posted on 04/20/2003 5:06:18 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar


19 posted on 04/20/2003 5:08:20 PM PDT by ALS
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To: liberateUS
Secret? Secret????

Perhaps the worst kept secret in the history of the Republic.

20 posted on 04/20/2003 5:08:32 PM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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