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10 years after Waco siege, police face another standoff (Gun Barrel City) - rehash of Waco debacle
The Dallas Morning News ^ | April 19, 2003 | By DAVE HIOTT / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 04/19/2003 9:50:08 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP

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To: Fifth Business
There should have been a less confrontational way of handling the situation.

We would all be happy to hear about some realistic alternatives, but with Vernon Wayne Howell I don't believe or think there was ANY possible way he was going back into the pokey ...

61 posted on 04/19/2003 11:26:59 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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To: tpaine
Strike up the "banned" ...

(And welcome back. Again.)

62 posted on 04/19/2003 11:28:14 AM PDT by strela ("... he's a spy and a girl delighter")
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To: _Jim; Roscoe; Poohbah; Catspaw; wimpycat
I'm thinking up new mottos now:

They'll take my M1A1 Abrams when they pull my smoking, charred corpse out of its blackened turret
I can walk into any bank with a machine gun and everybody had better just get over it - the Constimatooshkun says so
They'll take my Stinger SAM from me when they can pry it from my cold dead fingers in the airport parking lot

63 posted on 04/19/2003 11:30:13 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (going into an election campaign without the paleocons is like going to war without the French)
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To: _Jim
tpaine - Advocate for a new Afghanistan* - only on *our* shores this time!
* Rampant lawlessness, each man a 'Kingdom unto his own'.
58 -jim-


You are babbling nonsense, my boy.
I advocate & defend the constitutional rule of law.
Those who defend Waco do not.
64 posted on 04/19/2003 11:30:16 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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To: sinkspur
I vaguely remember the biting now, and I did think it somehow involved a traffic situation. Thanks, I may have to read up on that.
65 posted on 04/19/2003 11:30:56 AM PDT by nanny
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To: sinkspur
Boy, that is an evil guy -- hang him and his family!
66 posted on 04/19/2003 11:31:10 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: _Jim
We would all be happy to hear about some realistic alternatives, but with Vernon Wayne Howell I don't believe or think there was ANY possible way he was going back into the pokey ...

I had heard, and perhaps there is someone who could verify this, that Koresh regularly left the compound to go shopping. This was before he was put under siege, of course. Couldn't he have been lured off-site to buy some grenade launchers?

67 posted on 04/19/2003 11:32:11 AM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: tpaine
I advocate & defend the constitutional rule of law.

The 'thin' veil (or is it a burka now?) under which you would claim 'to operate' - like this perp, I'm sure, who bit a state trooper.

68 posted on 04/19/2003 11:34:33 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Laws are against the law!
69 posted on 04/19/2003 11:34:47 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Fifth Business
, that Koresh regularly left the compound to go shopping.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ... that's what all that staff he had was for ...

70 posted on 04/19/2003 11:36:04 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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To: strela
Strike up the "banned" ...
(And welcome back. Again.)
62 -alerts-


Thanks.
-- Getting suspended tightens up my 'decent' moral fiber.
71 posted on 04/19/2003 11:36:27 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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To: Reeses
I'm missing something. There's a problem here? I say let them self jail themselves as long as they want.

I'm with you...there is always plenty of time to die. More importantly, it is a local issue and if this is the way the local elected official chooses to handle it, fine. If the locals don't like it, vote him out next election. Sounds like he might still be out there guarding the detainees.

72 posted on 04/19/2003 11:36:55 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Fifth Business
If he got a good rate, he'd surely have gone to buy them.

Of course, then again, the "true believers" here would insist on the Constimatooshkinal right of everyone to own a grenade launcher.

73 posted on 04/19/2003 11:37:27 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (going into an election campaign without the paleocons is like going to war without the French)
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To: _Jim
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ... that's what all that staff he had was for ...

Do you know for sure that he didn't or are you just mocking?

74 posted on 04/19/2003 11:37:44 AM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: Roscoe
Laws are against the law!

And non-Caucasians count as only 3/5ths of a person for Census purposes.

(sarcasm OFF)

75 posted on 04/19/2003 11:38:58 AM PDT by strela ("... he's a spy and a girl delighter")
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
...the "true believers" here would insist on the Constimatooshkinal right of everyone to own a grenade launcher.

We can't? Uh-oh. ;-)

76 posted on 04/19/2003 11:39:00 AM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: Roscoe
To: Chancellor Palpatine

Laws are against the law!

69 posted on 04/19/2003 11:34 AM PDT by Roscoe


Rattle yer chains if you got a pair!
77 posted on 04/19/2003 11:39:06 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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To: tpaine
No prob. (And I have a "fiber" problem as well these days - nothing a good draught of Metamucil won't cure).
78 posted on 04/19/2003 11:40:32 AM PDT by strela ("... he's a spy and a girl delighter")
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To: MeeknMing
Did the custody issues ever get resolved? My recollection from several years ago was that the children's father was awarded custody but the wife was hiding out on her father's compound and the sheriff wouldn't enforce the court orders.


79 posted on 04/19/2003 11:40:49 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: _Jim
Pitiful comment _jimbo.
-- But whatever...
80 posted on 04/19/2003 11:41:38 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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