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Dr. Robert Atkins Dead

Posted on 04/17/2003 9:14:11 AM PDT by E.G.C.

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To: Illbay
Most of my observations are low carb and high manure.
41 posted on 04/17/2003 10:10:04 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Wright is right!
you CAN eat low-carb fruits

You mean, low glycemic index fruits: lots of apples, bananas, light on the OJ and pineapple.

BTW, fruits are all carbs.

42 posted on 04/17/2003 10:11:26 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Bluntpoint
My best friend's mother's cousin's sister inlaw knows someone who met someone who is pretty sure he heard that someone died while on the Atkins Diet.

Indeed, I heard that anyone who tries this diet or knows someone who tries this diet, will die.

43 posted on 04/17/2003 10:12:43 AM PDT by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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To: Kennard
Pedantic Proscriber of my way smart, your stupid.
44 posted on 04/17/2003 10:15:13 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: shattered
I thought you couldn't eat fruit on Atkins?

That's only for the first two weeks.

After that, you introduce carbs slowly back into your diet until you find the carbo amount that is best for you.

The Atkins' Diet is about knowledge, not about rigid formulas.

I eat everything, and I've been in the Atkins' Diet for several years.

Now I know that certain foods, such as sugar and prepackaged snacks, are like poison for me. Therefore, I eat little of those foods.

Meat, Eggs, Cheese and Green Vegetables I can eat without any limit.

And moderate portions of starchy vegetables, like potatoes or sweet potatoes, I can eat twice a day without gaining weight.

And fruits I eat also twice a day.

And the best advice I received from the Atkins' Diet: I exercise 4 times a week at the gym for about 45 minutes. I have given myself the body I wanted.

Thank you, Dr. Atkins, for helping all of us who were eating too much sugar and too many simple carbs and carrying all that extra weight around.

45 posted on 04/17/2003 10:16:03 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Illbay
Actually, it was more in the guise of throwing the moneychangers out of the Temple.
46 posted on 04/17/2003 10:19:22 AM PDT by hobbes1 ( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Kennard
"You mean, low glycemic index fruits."

Yuppers. Yes, all fruits are carbs - but some are worse than others.

Michael

47 posted on 04/17/2003 10:21:14 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: Grit
"Indeed, I heard that anyone who tries this diet or knows someone who tries this diet, will die."

It;s worse than that, Jim, everyone who reads this thread will die.
48 posted on 04/17/2003 10:22:03 AM PDT by Gigantor (It's not what you accomplish, but what you overcome.)
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To: george wythe; bluefish
Sounds like there's a lot more knowledge about the Atkins diet around here than there was when bluefish and I were defending it on threads some time back.

I've never needed to lose a bit of weight, however as a piano guy I found that Atkins increased my artistic and creative energies by an order of magnitude. It's too bad this side of the diet isn't explored more, but I think it will be when Atkins is finally vindicated, perhaps 50 years or more after his first book came out.

Rest in Peace.
49 posted on 04/17/2003 10:22:49 AM PDT by PianoMan (Liberate the Axis of Evil)
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To: george wythe
It's the simple carbs you must limit/eliminate. Complex carbs are good for you, they are on the low glycemic index.
50 posted on 04/17/2003 10:22:50 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: shattered
I thought you couldn't eat fruit on Atkins?

I guess Barney Frank won't go on it then.

I had great results with Atkins's diet and without negative effects. I go on and off it as I see fit, to keep my weight within a 2-3 lb range.

If it's going to kill me, it'll have to get in line behind Stolichnaya and Marlboros.

51 posted on 04/17/2003 10:26:40 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: Gigantor
ROTFLMAO...
52 posted on 04/17/2003 10:30:38 AM PDT by dubyagee
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To: hispanarepublicana
It's a darned shame. He may have saved tens of thousands from the dreaded effects of diabetes by inspiring a "modified" way of eating (as opposed to the extremes that it appeared he espoused on the surface).

I always remember a post a freeper wrote some time ago about too many carbs in the diet.

Something like: "You just have to think about what farmers feed their cattle to fatten them up for the market! And it's not protein..."

53 posted on 04/17/2003 10:31:29 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: kinsman redeemer
All vitals look good, including cholesterol

When I went for a checkup at the docs about a month ago my cholesterol test said I was at 120. The nurse told me that it is perfect. I was on the Atkins diet for about 6 months when they did the test.

Signed,
5'8 ~ 135lbs
Thanks to Dr. Atkins to getting me to a point where I would actually post my weight on a public internet forum and not give a hoot. Anyone out there who wants to try his diet - go for it. He's gone but surely won't be forgotten............

54 posted on 04/17/2003 10:32:36 AM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: ko_kyi
I'm sorry, I tried it and without bread it was tough. Anything that takes away my pizza and beer is bad! A may stay alive longer, but I won't live!
55 posted on 04/17/2003 10:32:47 AM PDT by CurlyBill (Let's go Caps!!! Let's go Caps!!!)
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To: azjatojarhd1ea
Read the latest from the leading edge research being done at Harvard on nutrition and diet and you will see that the traditional "food pyramid" put forth by the FDA is in process of revision to be very closely aligned with Atkin's view

This is so not so. If you want to read a book on real nutrition, read Dr. Walter Willett's Ead, Drink, and Be Healthy. He's Chairman of the Dept of Nutrition at Harvard and developed the food pyramid below (notice how he separates complex carbs from the simple ones). It doesn't look much like Atkins to me.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/pyramids.html

Healthy Eating Pyramid
56 posted on 04/17/2003 10:36:37 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Retrofire
I've lost about 40 lbs in the last nine months on Atkins, eating stuff I like and doing an absolute minimum of exercise.

If I could stop drinking two cases of beer a week for the next three months , I'd look like a college senior (an old one).

Rest in peace, Doctor.

57 posted on 04/17/2003 10:36:51 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: E.G.C.
For those who are not fimilar with his diet, It empasizes Proteins over carbohydrates. It was a concept born 30 years ago.

Actually, it emphasizes good fats over carbohydrates. Low carb is essentially a high fat way of eating, with the fat/protein/carb caloric percentage breaking down to about 70-75% fat/20-25% protein/3-5% carbohydrates.

The type of fat is important, too. Hydrogenated fats (i.e., transfats) are bad for you (raise LDL and lower HDL), monosaturated fats are best (raise HDL and lower LDL), and saturated fats are body neutral (raise both HDL and LDL, but you get heart protection from the stearic acid present).

Although Dr. Atkins (may he rest in peace) was the most famous advocate of low carbing, the concept has been around for more than 130 years. It was first described in the "Letter on Corpulence" by William Banting in 1869.

Prior to the use of injectable insulin, low carb eating was prescribed for Type II diabetics - I have a book on diabetic treatment from 1919 (even use a few of the recipes from it!).

Low carb eating is still the best way (IMHO) for Type IIs, as well as for women suffering from PCOS or anyone suffering from insulin resistance (Syndrome X). I've found it to be effective for getting rid of binging tendencies, too, as low carbing gets you off the blood sugar roller coaster that causes hunger spikes (I used to firmly believe that binge eating was a psychological disorder, but I'm not sure about that anymore - it's completely cured my "need" to binge eat).

I started low carbing in January 1998, on the advice of my doctor, and I've lost about 190 pounds. No, that's not a typo. My cholesterol levels are low-normal, my EKG is perfect and my kidneys are exactly where they're supposed to be! I still have Type II diabetes, which, unfortunately, cannot be cured (yet), but my average daily blood sugars are usually under 100 - even when I first wake up in the morning. Although I still have this chronic disease, I no longer exhibit symptoms.

The definition of "low carb" is carb consumption of under 100 grams a day - or under 400 calories' worth. I usually keep to the 20-30 carb range, and get most of my carbs from fresh non-starchy vegetables.

My average daily food intake goes something like:

Breakfast: 2 eggs scrambled in 1 tablespoon butter (or half butter, half olive oil), decaf coffee with half and half. On the weekends, I might add some bacon or sausage and make it a brunch.

Lunch: During the week, it's usually about 4-8 ounces of meat with a salad, or a large Cobb salad with blue cheese dressing or olive oil and vinegar. On the weekends, I eat a later and larger breakfast and skip lunch.

Dinner: Steak, lamb, chicken or fish - about 8-10 ounces, with two servings of vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower or cabbage drizzled with a mix of butter and olive oil.

I seldom eat desserts, although I occasionally enjoy some sugar-free gelatin, or one of my own creations (I'm rather well known in the low carb Internet community for my dessert recipes).

Here's a great website for anyone interested in learning more about low carbing (and also a conservative Christian website): The Low Carb Retreat

Maven
58 posted on 04/17/2003 10:37:18 AM PDT by Maven
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To: E.G.C.

59 posted on 04/17/2003 10:37:26 AM PDT by yonif
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To: metesky
And how do you work 'beer' into an Atkin's diet?
60 posted on 04/17/2003 10:39:20 AM PDT by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor.)
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