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Children's Nursery Rhyme Triggers Racial Discrimination Lawsuit
CNSNews.com ^ | April 16, 2003 | Marc Morano

Posted on 04/17/2003 6:18:32 AM PDT by Pern

(CNSNews.com) - A Southwest Airlines flight attendant's use of a popular children's rhyme - "Eenie, meenie, minie, moe" - has resulted in a federal racial discrimination lawsuit against the airline filed by two African American women asking for unspecified financial damages.

One of the two women suing over the allegedly offensive nursery rhyme claims hearing the rhyme caused her to be bedridden for three days and suffer from "unexplained memory gaps," according to court documents.

The trial was supposed to start Tuesday in Kansas City, Kan., but U.S. District Court Judge Kathryn Vratil delayed the case until Sept. 29.

Southwest Airline passengers Louise Sawyer and Grace Fuller allege they suffered racial discrimination on the flight in February 2001 when flight attendant Jennifer Cundiff said over the plane's intercom, "Eenie, meenie, minie, moe; pick a seat, we gotta go." The two women say they were the only passengers standing in the aisle at the time.

Sawyer and Fuller said that as soon as they heard the rhyme, they were reminded of the racist version that starts with the phrase: "Eenie, meenie, minie, moe; catch a n***** by his toe ..."

A more modern version of the nursery rhyme substitutes the offensive phrase with the words, "Catch a tiger by the toe." The rhyme is traditionally used by children to pick someone who will be "it." According to at least one word and phrase historian, the original rhyme using the n-word dates back to about the mid-19th century.

Sawyer and Fuller, who are sisters, had also originally alleged physical and emotional distress as a result of the nursery rhyme but earlier this year, Judge Vratil dismissed that aspect of the lawsuit, narrowing the complaint to the issue of discrimination.

"The court agrees with the plaintiffs that because of its history, the phrase 'eenie, meenie, minie, moe' could reasonably be viewed as objectively racist and offensive," Vratil stated in court papers. "The jury, however, must decide whether Cundiff's remark was racist or simply a benign and innocent attempt at humor."

Cundiff, who is white, disputes that Sawyer and Fuller were the only ones standing on the crowded flight. Cundiff said she had been using the rhyme on several different flights as a humorous way to get passengers to sit. Southwest Airlines employees are known for their folksy manner and casual atmosphere.

Scott A. Wissel, the Kansas City, Mo., attorney representing Sawyer and Fuller, declined to comment for this article.

But according to court documents, Sawyer said she was "infuriated by the [nursery rhyme] comment" and said fellow passengers giggled after it was said, making her feel alienated.

'Unexplained Memory Gaps'

Fuller believes Cundiff intentionally singled out her and her sister. "It was like I was too dumb to find a seat," Fuller complained in the court papers.

Fuller, who has epilepsy, said she was so unnerved by the nursery rhyme that her hands trembled during the trip and she has experienced "unexplained memory gaps" about the flight ever since.

Fuller also maintains that the nursery rhyme incident caused her to be bedridden for three days because she suffered a "grand mal seizure." However, Fuller said she could not medically verify the incident because as a result of lacking health insurance, she did not seek medical help for the seizure.

Cundiff wrote a report about the incident as part of a Southwest Airlines' internal investigation.

"The statement I made on Flight 524 was not racist or discriminating, and I am offended that because I have white skin, suddenly I am a racist," Cundiff wrote. "Maybe those that run around pointing fingers yelling racist should stop and turn that finger around."

Southwest agreed with Cundiff and does not believe the phrase was racist or that she acted inappropriately. Even though Southwest did not ask her to stop saying the rhyme, Cundiff said she stopped because of the controversy.

Wissel said he is trying to get the courts to prohibit Southwest Airlines employees from using the nursery rhyme and force the airline to provide employee training to prevent future racial controversies.

Wissel's clients, Sawyer and Fuller, are seeking an unspecified financial amount in compensatory and punitive damages.

'Ridiculous Lawsuit'

The lawsuit has provided critics of the American legal system more ammunition for their tort reform battle.

"Seems sort of a ridiculous lawsuit, but this is the rise of this litigious culture, where people look to sue at the most insignificant remark," said Steve Lilienthal, spokesman for the Free Congress Foundation (FCF). The group just hosted a seminar last week on Capitol Hill focusing on what it considers the explosion of frivolous lawsuits in America.

"There is no real racist connotation in the phrase. How can you view [that phrase] as being racist? It just doesn't make sense. Most people would look at this lawsuit and be dumbfounded," Lilienthal said.

He sees this lawsuit as part of a larger cultural problem, "one more sign of people who are simply looking to sue," Lilienthal explained. "There is a whole grievance industry set up based on the increasing use of litigation."

This is not the first time the "eenie, meenie, minie, moe" nursery rhyme has come under fire. In 2002, government officials in University City, Mo., a suburb of St. Louis, printed a calendar that had a cover photo of the feet of five children, one bare and the others with shoes with a caption reading, "Eeny ... meeny ... miny ... moe" (alternate spelling). Most of the kids in the photo were African American.

After a city employee complained that the calendar was racially offensive, the city reprinted all 18,000 copies of the calendar with the photo deleted, according to the Kansas City Star.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: eenie; lawsuit; lawsuitabuse; meenie; memoryloss; minie; moe; questionofsanity; racebaiting; racialdivision; racism
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To: Lijahsbubbe
"Perhaps the women have heard alot in their lifetime. Like walking thru a store and hearing someone say"...yada yada yada.
61 posted on 04/17/2003 8:22:15 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Pern
Suggestion for the new annoucement:

Eenie, meenie, minie, me
Sit down and don't be niggardly

62 posted on 04/17/2003 8:23:32 AM PDT by TexRef
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Are you for real?

In this country, I should be able to call anyone a "nigger" to their face and not face threat of lawsuit. I should face the threat of being ostracized by my friends or fired from my job or getting my butt kicked across town because its very very rude to say that to someone, but the justice system has no business enforcing manners.

The two ladies suing are clearly just trying to scam money out of SW, the lawyers are trying to scam money, and you are sticking up for these ridiculous thieves. Disgusting.

Uh oh, I called your actions disgusting. Do you feel alienated? Don't sue me!
63 posted on 04/17/2003 8:26:40 AM PDT by CaptainJustice (Dangerous Jesus Lover)
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To: eddie willers
Speculating on why she filed the lawsuit is not the same as claiming to know her economic status or whether she's lazy or ambitious.

Since it's already assumed she's dishonorable, why not examine the flip side? Is that impossible to believe?
64 posted on 04/17/2003 8:39:05 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: CaptainJustice
So they're clearly trying to scam, huh? Well Jesus lover, no one really knows the thoughts or intents of their heart but God, now do they?

By the way, I haven't shown you any actions, just opinion. Discrimination laws were instituted because minorities were not defended. Why as a good example, I don't see too many people on this thread saying anything against the stereotypes being thrown around here. Why aren't you equally digusted that she was said to be on crack, on welfare, and lazy?

65 posted on 04/17/2003 8:54:53 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Pern
Sawyer and Fuller said that as soon as they heard the rhyme, they were reminded of the racist version that starts with the phrase: "Eenie, meenie, minie, moe; catch a n***** by his toe ..."

Yeah, and every time she passes a KFC or a watermelon stand she's going to claim that she was "reminded" by them of past racist references to food?
66 posted on 04/17/2003 8:57:54 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Pern
Fuller also maintains that the nursery rhyme incident caused her to be bedridden for three days because she suffered a "grand mal seizure." However, Fuller said she could not medically verify the incident because as a result of lacking health insurance, she did not seek medical help for the seizure.

Did these sisters graduate from the Jackson/Sharpton School of Con-Artistry?
67 posted on 04/17/2003 9:00:21 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Lijahsbubbe
I never said everybody who files a lawsuit is on welfare, but many people who file frivilous ones are.

I was not focusing on her skin color, but on her behavior.

Your focus was first and foremost on her skin color. Look in the mirror before you start blithely calling people you don't know "racists."

68 posted on 04/17/2003 9:08:53 AM PDT by dead
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To: capt. norm
Suppose, instead of saying the WORDS, she "hummed" in cadence to the rhyme: "Mm Mm Mm Mm Mm Mm Mm" Would the woman still have gotten upset?
69 posted on 04/17/2003 9:10:53 AM PDT by calvin sun
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To: Puddleglum; YourAdHere
Well I can proudly say I did not watch a single episode of Celebrity Mole.

With shame, I must add that I watched every episode of "I'm a Celebrity! Get Me Out of Here!"

70 posted on 04/17/2003 9:11:54 AM PDT by dead
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Drug use is far more frequently the cause of memory blackouts than hearing somebody sing a nursery rhyme.

I guess you didn't know that.

71 posted on 04/17/2003 9:14:25 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead
Stress affects memory also, and no, I don't know anything about crack.
72 posted on 04/17/2003 9:18:23 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe
and no, I don't know anything about crack.

Pick up a book or a newspaper sometime, and you might learn about the world around you.

Crack is a form of cocaine, that is smoked in greater percentages by people who are on welfare filing frivilous lawsuits than it is smoked by people who have jobs and don't look for easy money through the legal system.

It also causes memory blackouts.

73 posted on 04/17/2003 9:21:05 AM PDT by dead
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To: twinzmommy
I had NO idea that that nursery rhyme had any kind of racist anything to it!

I'm a 45 yo white southern gal and was taught the "tiger" version of the rhyme. I even remember a Little Golden Book I had with pictures of tigers. Those lazy women are just trying to make a quick buck off the airlines, nothing more. I hate that these law suits waste my tax dollars and the courts' time, and that I will have to pay for it on my next airline ticket purchase. Give them a one way plane ride to France!

74 posted on 04/17/2003 9:27:08 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Lijahsbubbe
I really don't understand why she chose that rhyme myself. It doesn't fit the situation.

Eenie, meenie, miney, moe (or however it's spelled) is a rhyme used to select someone. The flight attendant was simply asking the women to quickly select a seat because they needed to go. It's really pretty simple. Just as it's quite simple to see that these women are either overly sensative or looking for some easy cash. Either way, their lawsuit is a disgusting disgrace.

75 posted on 04/17/2003 9:31:21 AM PDT by FourPeas (Iran is not a simple sentence.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Bigots like you prove her point. You have no idea what she does for a living.

We do know she isn't above posturing, lying, be a racist and blackmail to get money rather than working for it, don't we? Also, it doesn't seem to matter than she is hurting not only the one attendant - but all stockholders in the airlines -

Doesn't sound like a paragon of virtue to me.

But seriously, folks, this is why I was so disturbed about the Trent Lott debacle and the nominating of a Hispanic judge (not touted as just a qualified man - but Hispanic), Republicans using race to further their goals. And the posts on here calling Democrats racists because they haven't confirmed him, when all they were doing was practicing their usual partician politics. Everytime, anyone uses race for their own ends = it just strengthens insanity like this. We certainly need to think before we feed the monster just to get what we want.

76 posted on 04/17/2003 9:32:18 AM PDT by nanny
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To: Lijahsbubbe
I really don't understand why she chose that rhyme myself. It doesn't fit the situation.

Yes, it does fit the situation. It's about picking and choosing, as in hurry up and pick a seat so the plane can depart.

77 posted on 04/17/2003 9:32:43 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: dead
Read your post #18. You said filing a frivolous lawsuit indicates the lifestyle of being on welfare. Now you say it's 'most' or 'many'. Did you assume the lady who filed the McDonald's coffee lawsuit was on welfare, couldn't get her lazy ass out of bed, except to get a welfare check, and is on crack?

Seems like you're the one who knows all about crack. Funny how that was the first thing that came to your mind. You must think about it alot.
78 posted on 04/17/2003 9:41:24 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: nanny
No, we don't know that. You don't know anything about this woman. But I don't see you disturbed that she's been accused of being on welfare, on crack and has a lazy ass.

But I see you think you know she's a liar, blackmailer, and doesn't want to work for her money.

You don't know her.

Gotta go, will be back to respond later in the day.

79 posted on 04/17/2003 9:47:55 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: jonathanmo
Excuse me. Did that decision say that n*, like tigers were dangerous animals????? Animals????? That decision sounds racist to me! Sue them! Meanwhile I gotta keep an eye on that 'respectable looking' family of obviously 'dangerous animals' up the street from me. Mom is weeding the flower bed right now, no telling what sort of *dangerous* behaviour she'll resort to next!
80 posted on 04/17/2003 9:49:25 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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