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Troops in search for prisoners 'buried alive in concrete grave'
The Times ^ | April 16, 2003 | Nick Parker

Posted on 04/15/2003 3:57:28 PM PDT by MadIvan

BRITISH troops were racing against time last night to free prisoners believed to have been buried alive by Saddam Hussein’s fleeing henchmen.

Army engineers were called in after British officers heard scratching beneath a wrecked statue of Saddam in al-Faw. Local people said they had seen two coachloads of prisoners being sealed into a secret chamber under the site.

Hundreds of Iraqis kept a vigil yesterday as engineers with pneumatic drills and a bulldozer worked to break through a yard of concrete believed to have been poured into a stairwell leading to the dungeon.

Several British troops said they had heard a response after they stopped digging, called for quiet and knocked on the ground.

The sound of a series of scratching noises has been distinct at least twice since work started on Monday afternoon.

Lieutenant-Colonel Simon Wolsey, of 29 Commando Royal Artillery, which called in the digging teams, said: “We stopped work and knocked on the floor after ordering complete silence and I definitely heard something.

“It sounded like someone scratching at the concrete from below. A medic who was with us used his stethoscope and confirmed he heard the noise. Locals are adamant that they saw coachloads of prisoners, possibly Kuwaitis from the last war, being brought here before the coalition forces arrived.

“We have an obligation to help if there is even the slightest chance of someone being alive down there.”

Men from 59 Commando Engineers were working in shifts inside the statue’s 30ft-high hollow plinth.

Others, backed by the bulldozer, were trying to burrow in from outside.

The steel figure of Saddam, which vanished during fighting, used to dominate a huge marble, pillared amphitheatre in al-Faw town which was dedicated to the tyrant.

British troops stepped in to help after finding local people on the site tearing at the rubble with their bare hands.

Staff Sergeant George Lamplough, 35, who was among the digger teams, said: “I’ve just worked 12 hours solid trying to get through the concrete, and it’s tough going.

“We can’t be sure we’ll find anything, but we’ve shown the locals that we believe what they’ve told us and that we’re willing to help.

“Noises have definitely been heard when we’ve stopped to listen, by some of us as well as the locals. So we’ll press on as long as necessary.”

Abu Alal, 47, a shopkeeper and the town’s self-appointed mayor, said yesterday: “We are certain that people are trapped underground and are very grateful to the British for their help.

“It would be a wonderful miracle if someone came out of there alive after all this time.”

The lavish amphitheatre was opened by Saddam 13 years ago and was once adorned with fountains clad in gleaming marble.

But Mr Alal said he recalled teams of foreign engineers arriving on the site and is convinced that a secret bunker complex was installed.

He pointed out masses of heavy-duty cables leading underground and said that two of the classical-style pillars were hollow air shafts. A heavy digging tool was later fitted to a bulldozer to aid the army teams last night.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alfaw; baathists; basra; blair; bunker; buriedalive; bush; dungeons; genevaconvention; humanrights; iraq; iraqaftermath; iraqifreedom; pows; topplesaddam; uk; underground; us; war; warcime; warcrimes
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To: blam
Why the link? Aren't these two different prisons?
61 posted on 04/15/2003 4:55:48 PM PDT by madison10 (Think first, type later.)
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To: MeeknMing
I would say Saddam and his henchmen are like animals but that would be an insult to animals.

Evil...that's all that comes to mind...pure evil!

62 posted on 04/15/2003 4:58:10 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; blam
Pure evil is right.

With the things we know they did,I can't imagine they never burried anyone alive.

There have been so many Iraqis hearing things underground that I thought they'd probably heard enough tales to make them expect it to happen.

With our guys,there's less chance of mass hysteria from living with the Iraqis fears (and hopes).

Wish the article had said if the concrete was (green) or not.

63 posted on 04/15/2003 5:18:30 PM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: Cordova Belle
The Seattle "letters to the editor" sound a lot like the crap printed in "letters" to the L.A. Times. Same mindset, different city.
64 posted on 04/15/2003 5:20:20 PM PDT by CarmelValleyite
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To: goodnesswins
My God, those views are indicative of the intellectual dishonesty that is the left in this country. Sometimes you have to come to terms with good, bad, evil, and apathy. You can't hide from it forever.

There are some real good folks in the Pacific Northwest. No wonder they flee places like Seattle and Portland for places like Grant's Pass.

65 posted on 04/15/2003 5:22:07 PM PDT by blackdog (Peace, love, and understanding.....$10 bucks a hit in America.)
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To: goodnesswins
After 9/11 and the many OTHER terrorist incidents around the world, many aimed at U.S. interests, I don't give a rat's a** about the so-called "feelings of the rest of the world," do you?
66 posted on 04/15/2003 5:22:27 PM PDT by CarmelValleyite
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To: MadIvan
I don't know if this is the same location, but another thread just broke that 123 emaciated prisoners have been found in a underground, cemented hell-hole.

Answered prayers!

Leni

67 posted on 04/15/2003 5:23:14 PM PDT by MinuteGal (THIS JUST IN ! Astonishing fare reduction for FReeps Ahoy Cruise! Check it out, pronto!)
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To: MinuteGal
EASTER WEEK!!!

God bless them all.

68 posted on 04/15/2003 5:26:22 PM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: CarmelValleyite
NO....I have tried to explain what "LEADERSHIP" is.....and I think MAYBE they are listening.....but, I'll know more after this Thursday.
69 posted on 04/15/2003 5:28:31 PM PDT by goodnesswins (CNN...the MOST TRUSTED in News......by CRIMINALS!)
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To: blackdog
How is Grant's Pass these days?
70 posted on 04/15/2003 5:29:30 PM PDT by goodnesswins (CNN...the MOST TRUSTED in News......by CRIMINALS!)
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To: MadIvan
Uh, would the peaceniks like to tell us again why we shouldn't have taken out this regime?

It's none of our business.
Empire building.
They never attacked us!

*Squaaawk! Squaaaak!*

71 posted on 04/15/2003 5:32:01 PM PDT by Publius6961 (p>)
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To: MinuteGal
Different hell hole. Which leads me to wonder how many there are.

Regards, Ivan

72 posted on 04/15/2003 5:32:35 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
It's a shame the Times article hadn't identified the province or town where this drama is happening, unless I missed it.
73 posted on 04/15/2003 5:36:22 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: MadIvan
bttt
74 posted on 04/15/2003 5:36:36 PM PDT by ellery
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To: Publius6961
"No war in Iraq! Keep Iraqis enslaved!"
75 posted on 04/15/2003 5:37:22 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Army engineers were called in after British officers heard scratching beneath a wrecked statue of Saddam in al-Faw.

There you go.

Regards, Ivan

76 posted on 04/15/2003 5:39:07 PM PDT by MadIvan
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bttt
77 posted on 04/15/2003 5:40:07 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Become a Monthly Donor to Free Republic. Please?)
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To: MinuteGal
Link? (to the other thread)
78 posted on 04/15/2003 5:44:07 PM PDT by visualops (Let's go freeple! Get on the monthly!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
bump
79 posted on 04/15/2003 5:46:08 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (mnGod Bless Our Troops!)
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To: madison10
"Why the link? Aren't these two different prisons?"

Don't know. We never did find out what this 'breaking news' item was about. I suspect they are the same and ongoing incidents.

80 posted on 04/15/2003 5:47:34 PM PDT by blam
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