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Troops in search for prisoners 'buried alive in concrete grave'
The Times ^ | April 16, 2003 | Nick Parker

Posted on 04/15/2003 3:57:28 PM PDT by MadIvan

BRITISH troops were racing against time last night to free prisoners believed to have been buried alive by Saddam Hussein’s fleeing henchmen.

Army engineers were called in after British officers heard scratching beneath a wrecked statue of Saddam in al-Faw. Local people said they had seen two coachloads of prisoners being sealed into a secret chamber under the site.

Hundreds of Iraqis kept a vigil yesterday as engineers with pneumatic drills and a bulldozer worked to break through a yard of concrete believed to have been poured into a stairwell leading to the dungeon.

Several British troops said they had heard a response after they stopped digging, called for quiet and knocked on the ground.

The sound of a series of scratching noises has been distinct at least twice since work started on Monday afternoon.

Lieutenant-Colonel Simon Wolsey, of 29 Commando Royal Artillery, which called in the digging teams, said: “We stopped work and knocked on the floor after ordering complete silence and I definitely heard something.

“It sounded like someone scratching at the concrete from below. A medic who was with us used his stethoscope and confirmed he heard the noise. Locals are adamant that they saw coachloads of prisoners, possibly Kuwaitis from the last war, being brought here before the coalition forces arrived.

“We have an obligation to help if there is even the slightest chance of someone being alive down there.”

Men from 59 Commando Engineers were working in shifts inside the statue’s 30ft-high hollow plinth.

Others, backed by the bulldozer, were trying to burrow in from outside.

The steel figure of Saddam, which vanished during fighting, used to dominate a huge marble, pillared amphitheatre in al-Faw town which was dedicated to the tyrant.

British troops stepped in to help after finding local people on the site tearing at the rubble with their bare hands.

Staff Sergeant George Lamplough, 35, who was among the digger teams, said: “I’ve just worked 12 hours solid trying to get through the concrete, and it’s tough going.

“We can’t be sure we’ll find anything, but we’ve shown the locals that we believe what they’ve told us and that we’re willing to help.

“Noises have definitely been heard when we’ve stopped to listen, by some of us as well as the locals. So we’ll press on as long as necessary.”

Abu Alal, 47, a shopkeeper and the town’s self-appointed mayor, said yesterday: “We are certain that people are trapped underground and are very grateful to the British for their help.

“It would be a wonderful miracle if someone came out of there alive after all this time.”

The lavish amphitheatre was opened by Saddam 13 years ago and was once adorned with fountains clad in gleaming marble.

But Mr Alal said he recalled teams of foreign engineers arriving on the site and is convinced that a secret bunker complex was installed.

He pointed out masses of heavy-duty cables leading underground and said that two of the classical-style pillars were hollow air shafts. A heavy digging tool was later fitted to a bulldozer to aid the army teams last night.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alfaw; baathists; basra; blair; bunker; buriedalive; bush; dungeons; genevaconvention; humanrights; iraq; iraqaftermath; iraqifreedom; pows; topplesaddam; uk; underground; us; war; warcime; warcrimes
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I think the peace-niks should be tried for sedition.
121 posted on 04/16/2003 2:58:23 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: MinuteGal
Wouldn't it be something if prisoners were raised alive in Easter Week?

Praying hard.

Amen to that Sister Freeper.

122 posted on 04/16/2003 3:07:04 AM PDT by happygrl (Praying without ceasing)
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To: happygrl
Well?

Did you find the thread about the other folks burried alive yet? :o)

123 posted on 04/16/2003 3:20:09 AM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: Free Trapper
Uh, there are links to these threads all over the forum.

What's with the impertinent tone ?

124 posted on 04/16/2003 4:06:37 AM PDT by happygrl (Praying without ceasing)
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To: happygrl
Sorry if it came out that way.:o(

When I saw your post saying how good it would be if some folks were saved durring Easter week I thought you might like to see the (good) news first.

125 posted on 04/16/2003 4:22:51 AM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: goodnesswins
how can the seattle area survive with so many really stupid evil people in it?
126 posted on 04/16/2003 5:27:31 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: goodnesswins
How can you be friends with a liberal? doesn't the overwhelming urge to slap some sense into them (either verbally or when that fails physically) take all the joy out of the relationship?
127 posted on 04/16/2003 5:36:35 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: goodnesswins
"stay away from all that stuff....NOT ME!!!!! LOL....I consider myself an "educator" and no one can stop me!"

I hear you!. . .let us hear how lunch goes :^)><

128 posted on 04/16/2003 6:23:55 AM PDT by cricket
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To: MadIvan
Uh, would the peaceniks like to tell us again why we shouldn't have taken out this regime?

Nancy Pelosi had a secret plan to end all this and at far lesser expense...

129 posted on 04/16/2003 6:34:37 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: adam_az
BTTT!
130 posted on 04/16/2003 6:57:57 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( Midnight at the Oasis......)
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To: redhead
My opinion is that Saddam knew he could not give up, because we would either kill him later, or prosecute him for crimes - and he would live his life in prison.

I believe he used a plastic surgeon to alter his appearance (then probably killed him) - and escaped to another country to spend his billions. The same goes for his sons....

He wanted us to think we got him and his sons so we would stop looking for them....
131 posted on 04/16/2003 7:02:54 AM PDT by M. Peach (eschew obsfucation)
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To: MadIvan
The actions of the antiwar weenies, which effectively would have left the sadistic regime of Saddam in place and the Iraqi people in chains, is no different than standing around and doing nothing while a woman is raped.

None of our business = they never attacked us.

Someone else will help her = let the useless UN do it.

No, I don't hear anything = ignoring the pleas and testimony of the Iraqi people, either here or in Iraq.

Maybe someone could talk the rapist out of the rape (after the fact) = diplomacy.

They make me sick to my stomach.

132 posted on 04/16/2003 9:52:49 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: MadIvan
Saddam and his cronies are ghouls, to say the least. It would be a pity if he were dead and escaped the ridicule of mortal justice before meeting the damnation of eternal justice.

Where are the give-peace-a chance, anti-war protesters?

133 posted on 04/16/2003 10:21:48 AM PDT by semaj
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To: John O
How can I be friends with a liberal? I'm converting her (and her family) slowly but surely.....some are open, and this friend is.....other "friends" dumped me....because I was conservative. So, the really, true, closed mind, liberals will not associate with conservatives, I've found.
134 posted on 04/16/2003 10:52:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins (CNN...the MOST TRUSTED in News......by CRIMINALS!)
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To: goodnesswins
How can I be friends with a liberal? I'm converting her (and her family) slowly but surely

AHH a missionary! I understand now, carry on!

135 posted on 04/16/2003 12:20:01 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: bcoffey
Re:
"Perhaps a more productive way to elicit contributions from the other 99,000 is not to carpet bomb every thread but to use that time and energy to ASK THEM why they aren't contributing...."

Good Idea...
In a word: "UNEMPLOYED".

Hope to be able to contribute some day, though.
Sorry 'bout that.

136 posted on 04/16/2003 6:04:22 PM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Whack, Fal-De-La!; Babylon is fallen!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I once read that Hell was experiencing all of the pain you have inflicted on others. Saddam is responsible for a lot of pain.
137 posted on 04/16/2003 6:10:22 PM PDT by Samwise (All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.)
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To: MadIvan
Ivan: you have received many compliments on your posting prowess....I add mine. You are my "most forwarded" poster to friends that either won't or can't get FR. This includes several liberals.

I think we are turning minds...together. Keep up the good work friend. Cheers, and fine foamy pint to you sir!

138 posted on 04/16/2003 8:14:25 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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