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Islamic Library Burned to the Ground [Fisk ALERT]
ArabNews - Saudi Arabia ^ | 4-15-03 | Robert Fisk

Posted on 04/14/2003 2:40:24 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

BAGHDAD, 15 April 2003 — So yesterday was the burning of books. First came the looters, then came the arsonists. It was the final chapter in the sack of Baghdad. The National Library and Archives — a priceless treasure of Ottoman historical documents including the old royal archives of Iraq — were turned to ashes in 3,000 degrees of heat. Then the Islamic Library of Qur’ans at the Ministry of Religious Endowment was set ablaze. I saw the looters.

One of them cursed me when I tried to reclaim a book of Islamic law from a boy who could have been no more than 10 years old. Amid the ashes of hundreds of years of Iraqi history, I found just one file blowing in the wind outside: Pages and pages of handwritten letters between the court of Sherif Hussein of Makkah — who started the Arab revolt against the Turks for Lawrence of Arabia — and the Ottoman rulers of Baghdad.

And the Americans did nothing. All over the filthy yard they blew, letters of recommendation to the courts of Arabia, demands for ammunition for Ottoman troops, reports on the theft of camels and attacks on pilgrims, all of them in delicate hand-written Arabic script. I was holding in my hands the last Baghdad vestiges of Iraq’s written history. But for Iraq, this is Year Zero; with the destruction of the antiquities in the Museum of Archaeology on Saturday and the burning of the National Archives and then the Qur’anic library of the ministry, the cultural identity of Iraq is being erased.

Why? Who set these fires? For what insane purpose is this heritage being destroyed? When I caught sight of the Qur’anic library burning — there were flames 100 feet high bursting from the windows — I raced to the offices of the occupying power, the US Marines’ civil affairs bureau, to report what I had seen. An officer shouted to a colleague that “this guy says some Biblical (sic) library is on fire.” I gave the map location, the precise name — in Arabic and English — of the fire, I said that the smoke could be seen from three miles away and it would take only five minutes to drive there. Half an hour later, there wasn’t an American at the scene — and the flames were now shooting 200 feet into the air.

There was a time when the Arabs said that their books were written in Cairo, printed in Beirut and read in Baghdad. Now they burn libraries in Baghdad. In the National Archives were not just the Ottoman records of the caliphate, but even the dark years of the country’s modern history, hand-written accounts of the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, an entire library of Western newspapers — bound volumes of the Financial Times were lying on the pavement — and microfiche copies of Arabic newspapers going back to the early 1900s.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: archives; fallofbaghdad; fisk; godsgravesglyphs; iraqhistory; libraries; looting; order; purge; socialist; vermin; whiner
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But for Iraq, this is Year Zero;

Fisk's only paradigm is Communism; here he makes a Khmer Rouge reference.

And we're not supposed to notice that Fisk values historical artifacts over the liberty of living people. In the classic Stalinist/totalitarian mindset, the private life is dead: there is no individual, only classes and nations. Thus, as long as the nation lives on, the life of the individual is irrelevant (paraphrasing Hitler).

Hussein held these items hostage (otherwise he could have protected them), and the blame is his.

21 posted on 04/14/2003 2:58:59 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: try phecta tom
Excuse me, I have to take a Fisk.

Don't forget to wipe your Clymer.

22 posted on 04/14/2003 3:00:16 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Well, he probably didn't really burn the library at Alexandria, but Caliph Omar did comment on burning books in general: "if they contradict what is in the Koran they are heresy and should be burned; if they agree with it they are superfluous." He wasn't, by reputation, one of the nicer Caliphs...
24 posted on 04/14/2003 3:03:42 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Technogeeb
An interesting statement. The child wasn't burning the book, he was taking it? And Fisk tried to get it from him? This foreign "journalist" is trying to take a book on law from a child. "Here, give me that!"

So was it looted first? Or just burnt? I find it very strange people would burn a library full of antique books when supposedly they were stealing everything that wasn't nailed down. Maybe there was more to this building than met the eye?

25 posted on 04/14/2003 3:03:52 PM PDT by I still care (America is great because it is good. When it ceases to be good, it will cease to be great.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

26 posted on 04/14/2003 3:05:52 PM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: Paul Atreides
Mind you, if it had been Mount Vernon burned to the ground, he would have been elated.

Fisk dateline 2010, "as the election of Hillary Clinton and the subsequent people's revolution in Amerika have been a hard to understand movement, we are now provided with a symbolic moment perfectly characterizing the revolution and its glory in the burning of the Library of Congress.... "

"Several members of the worker's revolution set ablaze this insidious institution which housed the propaganda of the Amerikan fascist regime for over a century. You could see the joy in the people's faces as they grabbed original copies of the so-called Declaration of Independence and set them afire along with copies of the reprehensible fascist dogma known as the Federalist papers. Various oppressed peasants were able to redeclare property such as 18 and 19th century furniture that the fascists had claimed for themselves....."

"It was a final and welcome destruction to the plague that had become rugged individualism and superstitious beliefs in "God-given" rights."

27 posted on 04/14/2003 3:07:51 PM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: Petronski
Thank you, almost forgot
28 posted on 04/14/2003 3:13:27 PM PDT by try phecta tom ((Harvey RULES. Paul not the rabbit)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Islamic Library Burned to the Ground "

More good news!
30 posted on 04/14/2003 3:14:11 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: I still care
An interesting statement. The child wasn't burning the book, he was taking it? And Fisk tried to get it from him? This foreign "journalist" is trying to take a book on law from a child. "Here, give me that!"

Yes, but it somehow sounds more noble when Fisk says it.

So was it looted first? Or just burnt?

So far, everything that I've seen burned has been "looted" first. The only things that appear to be burning are symbols of Hussein's regime.

32 posted on 04/14/2003 3:20:08 PM PDT by Technogeeb
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Iraqi people want to attack and destroy all even remotely associated with the hated Sadaminites, and I cheer the on at every level.

Let them have their pound of flesh after suffering so much for so long, I cannot blame them.
33 posted on 04/14/2003 3:29:12 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Why? Who set these fires? For what insane purpose is this heritage being destroyed?

I will never be able to comprehend the mentality of those who celebrate the burning of books. Who would destroy the records of history so no one could read them? That is about as small minded as a human mind can descend.

34 posted on 04/14/2003 3:29:30 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: seamole
So, as with the National Antiquities Museum, why were the artifacts and documents left in their normal place and not moved to a protected spot? We're told all the time that Baghdad is honeycombed with tunnels. Surely there was room down there. Why didn't the archivists and curators take action? Looks like the entire Iraqi government military and civilian was decapitated.

Instead of blaaming the Americans maybe Fisk should blame Iraqi officials who failed to act even though they knew a war was coming.

35 posted on 04/14/2003 3:32:07 PM PDT by calico joe
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To: calico joe
Most German art was preserved in WW II because it was kept in vaults in mountain caves.
36 posted on 04/14/2003 3:33:08 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Tsk, tsk, Fisk,
Robert, you just don't seem to grasp the historic nature of this operation, it has often been said to destroy a country you must first destroy it's history.
I call this a good start.
37 posted on 04/14/2003 3:33:16 PM PDT by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: elbucko
"For what insane purpose is this heritage being destroyed?"

And who was complaining when the Iraqi's plundered Kuwaiti museums, looting and destroying many priceless artifacts (many of which were lost forever). What goes around comes around.

38 posted on 04/14/2003 3:33:44 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: MosesKnows
Ba'athists and supporters of Saddam Hussein would certainly have reason to do things that might tend to discredit the invaders.
39 posted on 04/14/2003 3:33:51 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: LizardQueen
If you want to know why this was done, ask the damn looters. No American told them to go burn their own heritage down.

This is a good point. Why would these people burn down their own heritage. Did he ask them? I doubt it. Do they see it as part of Saddam's heritage? Do they hate him that much? Fisk should have asked why. He should spend a little time trying to figure out where all this bottled up rage is coming from. And then he should ask himself why he wanted them to remain under Saddam's evil thumb.

40 posted on 04/14/2003 3:36:29 PM PDT by knuthom
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