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Bush Supports New Extension Of Assault-Weapons Ban
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 4-12-03 | Shannon McCaffrey

Posted on 04/12/2003 12:34:04 PM PDT by Unwavering Conservative

Bush Supports New Extension of Assault-Weapons Ban

By Shannon McCaffrey Knight Ridder News Service

    WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration is bucking the National Rifle Association and supporting a renewal of the assault-weapons ban, set to expire just before the presidential election.

    "The president supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told Knight Ridder.

    Tossing out the ban on semiautomatic weapons is a top priority for the NRA. President Bush said during his presidential campaign that he supported the current ban, but it was less clear whether he would support an extension.

    The White House comment comes just before the NRA's annual convention and as the gun debate overall shows signs of fresh life after several years of near hibernation. Republicans now control the House and the Senate and are using their newfound power to breathe life into the stalled pro-gun rights agenda. This week, they pushed through a bill in the House to give gun makers and dealers sweeping immunity from lawsuits.

    The assault-weapons ban is considered a crown jewel by the gun-control movement, and even though its expiration is more than a year away it is already being watched closely.

    The White House comment surprised those on both sides of the gun issue.

    "That's lousy politics," said Grover Norquist, an NRA board member who leads the conservative pro-Bush group Americans for Tax Reform.

    Joe Sudbay of the Violence Policy Center said it "creates a huge problem for Bush with the NRA."

    "The NRA said they would be working out of the Oval Office when Bush was elected. This creates an interesting situation for them," he said.

    Matt Bennett of Americans for Gun Safety applauded Bush's stance but urged the president to use his political clout to push for Congress to act. If Congress does nothing, the ban could just expire.

    Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, said Bush's support was somewhat irrelevant.

    "Ultimately, I think this issue is going to be decided by the Congress," LaPierre said.

    If it is, the NRA has reason to be optimistic.

    This week's action on the immunity legislation for dealers and gun makers reflects the interest of Republicans to resurrect the pro-gun rights agenda.

    Congress had been poised to act on the bill last fall, but the deadly sniper attacks in the Washington area prompted a delay. The measure has enough co-sponsors in the Senate to pass that chamber unless Democrats dig in their heels and filibuster.

    Supporters of the immunity bill say it shields gun makers from bankruptcy because of frivolous lawsuits that became popular during the Clinton administration.

Lawsuits filed by cities against gun manufacturers -- modeled on similar litigation against the tobacco industry -- have so far been unsuccessful but have kept gun makers tied up in court.

    The active gun debate stands in contrast to several years of inaction.

    Democrats largely abandoned the gun issue in the 2002 midterm election after some determined that it had been an albatross for Democratic presidential hopeful Al Gore in 2000.

    Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., elected to Congress on a gun-control platform after her husband was killed and her son wounded by a deranged gunman on a Long Island commuter train in 1993, acknowledged that some Democrats are nervous about the gun issue nowadays.

    "But it's coming back. I think you're going to see it popping up a lot this session with the Republicans in control," she said


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2ndam; assaultweapons; assaultweaponsban; bang; banglist; congress; expiration; extension; gop; guncontrol; gunrights; renewal; rkba; secondamendment
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To: Unwavering Conservative
And the GOP yanks the football away from conservative Charlie Brown yet again...

The only thing surprising, is that people are surprised.

141 posted on 04/14/2003 7:46:59 AM PDT by OWK
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To: Beelzebubba
Just to add my two cents to your post, if the Pubbies are driving us toward the cliff at 100 mph, and the Rats at 120 mph, I'd rather get there quicker, so we can get about cleaning up the mess that much sooner. I'll never vote for a Rat, but Bush long ago lost my vote in 2004. This just affirms my decision.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

142 posted on 04/14/2003 7:47:16 AM PDT by wku man
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To: 45Auto
"Better to die on one's feet, then to live on our knees."

The best Shakespeare quote ever.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

143 posted on 04/14/2003 7:49:10 AM PDT by wku man
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To: Unwavering Conservative
Bush Supports New Extension Of Assault-Weapons Ban




I will not support any candidate who takes this stand.

Period.
144 posted on 04/14/2003 7:50:22 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (MY VOTE IS FOR SALE)
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To: WhiteGuy
A woman on her way to market came upon some young boys tormenting a snake with rocks and sticks. She chased the boys away and picked up the snake and took it home with her. She nursed it back to health and they lived together for a while.

One day as the woman reached out to feed the snake it bit her. "You have bitten me and you are poisonous and now I shall die. I took you in and cared for you. Why did you do this?"

The snake replied, "Because I'm a snake. This is what I do. And you knew I was a snake when you first took me in."

145 posted on 04/14/2003 7:53:58 AM PDT by OWK
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To: ccmay
Don't be an idiot. Dance with the one what brung ya.

This advice is better told to G.W., since "we" are the one who "brung" him. Without the votes of gun owners, he would not have won in 2000, and he needs to understand that without our votes in 2004, he won't be re-elected. The anti-gunners aren't going to vote for Bush no matter what, so he has nothing to gain (and everything to lose) by caving in to the Left on this issue.

People can make all sorts of claims that it is "stupid" to not vote for Bush when the alternative is worse, but the fact remains that they will not vote for someone who betrays their fundamental rights. Bush supporters might not like it, but they need to learn the same lesson that caused his father to lose in 1992 and Dole to lose in 1996; and that is that a very large percentage of the gun rights vote goes only to those that support gun rights.

For those that make claims about "what about the war on terrorism; surely you don't want someone like Gore as president?" the answer might shock you. A lot of gun owners (correctly) see the gun issue as more important than saving the lives of another 3000 New Yorkers. Their principles are such that a fundamental Constitutional issue like the right of citizens to protect themselves is as important the day to day policies of the country, even in something as vital as national defense; since ultimately it is the same issue.

Imagine if the candidates of both major political parties refused to do anything to stop the terrorists. Would you be willing to vote for the candidate that wanted tax cuts even though it would mean another airliner into a skyscraper? Although I'm sure there are some that would (unfortunately, the only requirements I've seen some people on FR place on their candidates is that they have an "R" after their names on the ballot), I would hope the majority would see that they are being given a false choice, and refuse to support any president who is unqualified due to his unwillingness to defend the Republic. In the same way, any president who refuses to support the 2nd amendment is in clear violation of his oath of office to uphold and defend the Constitution, and thus is unqualified for that office.

146 posted on 04/14/2003 8:18:07 AM PDT by Technogeeb
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To: Unwavering Conservative
am most likely gonna sit out the 2004 election, unless Tancredo runs for President

See ya, loser.

147 posted on 04/14/2003 8:24:42 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: WhiteGuy
I don't blame you at all for feeling that way.

I will not vote for any candidate who back-stabs the RKBA constituency.
148 posted on 04/14/2003 11:13:00 AM PDT by Unwavering Conservative
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To: Unwavering Conservative
MASH HERE: SUNSET THE 'ASSAULT WEAPONS' BAN
149 posted on 04/14/2003 11:41:12 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Henrietta
If Bush upholds continuing this assault weapons ban, I will not vote for him in 2004.

Neither will I. I've cut the Repubs a lot of slack because the alternative is so bad, but this is my line in the sand.

150 posted on 04/14/2003 11:43:31 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Rulling Lord
Well would you rather have a party who is honest about it or a party that says one thing and then does another?

Rhetorical question, right?

The Libertarian party was more then willing to have the boreders closed after the attacks on 11Sep2001. Then they wanted to stop all visitors from the middle east from gaining entry without a background check.

Really? Can you give any documentation? What is their view today?

152 posted on 04/14/2003 1:02:10 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: ccmay
"...it's a vote for imperfect good instead of pure evil."

That's a good point. If, as you imply, Bush is waiting for the House to let this noxious bill fade away, and thus not have to deal with it, then he is either extremely shrewd or he is taking a hell of a risk with our freedoms. I certainly hope it's the former. Bush is certainly the best friend -- and best leader -- America has had since Ronald Reagan. He is in a position to do so much for the defense of the Constitution, and thus our rights. I do believe he takes his oath of office seriously (not like that ingrate whom he succeeded), but, on the other hand, I hope he doesn't "go wobbly" on us.
153 posted on 04/14/2003 1:24:35 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: TLBSHOW
BTTT
154 posted on 06/23/2003 12:06:33 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Unwavering Conservative
Cutting off your collective noses, because W says he'll sign it, isn't the way to go. He has to say that, much like he chokes on that "Islam Is A Religion of Peace" crap, which takes the gun control issue off the table for the lib-dem scum.

I read that Tom DeLay is going to kill the AWB in the house committee, that there aren't enough votes for it, or something like that. I pray that it's true, and that the evil AWB will never reach W's desk.

If that wouldn't happen, and he does sign it, I'll still vote for him, as the alternatives are too terrible to ponder. Brrrrrrrrr!

155 posted on 06/23/2003 12:17:52 PM PDT by Hinoki Cypress
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To: Unwavering Conservative
"The NRA said they would be working out of the Oval Office when Bush was elected. This creates an interesting situation for them," he said."

One idiot employee made that statement at an NRA function prior to the elections of 2000. That was never an official statement by the NRA.

156 posted on 06/23/2003 12:25:39 PM PDT by Destructor
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To: The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
Since it is the "friend" doing the "bads" it cannot make a difference.
157 posted on 06/23/2003 1:14:32 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: wastoute
Bush's father thought he could get re-elected without gun owners, too...

That simple message needs to be delivered to the White House - loudly, clearly and often.

158 posted on 06/23/2003 1:21:12 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: Unwavering Conservative
this will be debated again soon.
159 posted on 01/30/2004 12:54:41 PM PST by votelife (Elect a Filibuster Proof Majority)
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