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Forget about Saddam; it's Robbins and Sarandon we must fight
The Seattle Times ^ | 4/11/03 | Steve Kelly

Posted on 04/11/2003 8:12:58 AM PDT by Seattle

The juxtaposition would be funny if it weren't so serious.

Scenes of joy in Baghdad were on the front pages of every newspaper in the country yesterday.

Iraq, a very literate country, was celebrating in the streets. The population was filled with the hope that maybe, just maybe, it could celebrate the freedoms that have been denied it for a generation.

Freedoms like the freedom of speech.

Meanwhile, on this nation's sports pages yesterday, baseball's Hall of Fame president, Dale Petroskey, was declaring that, because of the politics of actors Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins, the Hall was canceling its planned celebration of the 15th anniversary of the release of the baseball movie "Bull Durham."

Petroskey, who just happens to be a former assistant White House press secretary under Ronald Reagan, said in a letter to Sarandon and Robbins: "We believe your very public criticism of President Bush at this important — and sensitive — time in our nation's history helps undermine the U.S. position, which ultimately could put our troops in even more danger."

The decision is all bull and no Durham.

Petroskey said he didn't want Robbins politicizing the event, then he politicized it.

McCarthyism lives.

Does Petroskey think Iraqi soldiers were hunkered in their bunkers outside Basra telling each other, "Sarandon and Robbins are against this war. We must fight on."?

There is a saying that truth is the first casualty of war. Apparently, people like Petroskey believe free speech is the second casualty.

Imagine if Petroskey were the NBA commissioner. Dallas' Steve Nash, who has voiced his sensitive disagreements with the war, probably would be banned from the playoffs.

And Golden State's Adonal Foyal, maybe the smartest man in the NBA, would be suspended for having the audacity to criticize the U.S. government.

Aren't the freedoms Sarandon and Robbins exercise part of what the United States says it is trying to bring to Iraq?

If John Rocker still can pitch in the big leagues — I don't know if he can pitch anymore, but he certainly now has the right to try with Tampa Bay — then can't we celebrate the best baseball movie ever made, even if some find the politics of two of its stars offensive?

Petroskey's Hall is full of miscreants. If he saw the movie "Cobb," he might be inclined to pull down the bust of Ty Cobb the way that U.S. tank pulled down the statue of Saddam Hussein on Wednesday.

If Cobb is in the Hall of Fame, there should be room for Bull Durham.

The movie is such a perfect portrayal of life in baseball's bush leagues. Kevin Costner is the perfect embittered baseball lifer. Robbins' Nuke LaLoosh is like every wild prodigy who ever came into the game.

It's a smart movie that takes some sharp shots at the culture of sports.

It deserves this celebration. We deserve to see its stars and writer-director Ron Shelton and hear them talk about this movie 15 years later.

But Petroskey, a 21st-century Joe McCarthy (the former senator, not the former manager), has decided the beliefs of some of its stars are too volatile for the Hall.

This was supposed to be the celebration of a movie. It was about the art, not the politics, of the artists.

Maybe Petroskey never saw the movie. Maybe he was misinformed and was told that LaLoosh was named Weapons of Mass Destruction LaLoosh.

While Iraqis cautiously leave their houses and come back into the streets, believing maybe the worst of the war is over, Petroskey is fighting his own war against dissent. Maybe he should poll all living Hall of Fame members. Are they for or against this war? Are they Republicans or Democrats?

Maybe he should make all of them sign a loyalty oath.

"As an institution we stand behind our president and our troops," he said in his letter to Robbins and Sarandon.

So as they celebrate the hope of freedom in Baghdad, Dale Petroskey denies it in Cooperstown. It seems you're either with Petroskey or against him. And if you're against him, the doors to the Hall will be slammed in your face.

Steve Kelley: 206-464-2176 or skelley@seattletimes.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: celebrity; crybabies; hollywierd; hollywood; hollywoodenemyofusa; holyywood; robbins; sarandon; sedition; whiner
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To: Seattle
McCarthyism lives.

So they're Commies too?

61 posted on 04/11/2003 8:38:56 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: anniegetyourgun
>>"Mr. Kelly....it's called calling shame upon the shameful. AND YOU JOIN THE RANKS OF THE SHAMEFUL....heavily populated by leftists like yourself."

It's also called being a U.S. wanker! Just like the human shields.
62 posted on 04/11/2003 8:40:05 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (Again, protestors have NO RIGHT TO BE HEARD, only a freedom to speak)
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To: freebilly
In the movie, The Babe agrees to be injected with some experimental anti-cancer serum. Though he knows it will likely kill him, he hopes "dem doctors what with all their learning" will gain knowledge that could help save others.
63 posted on 04/11/2003 8:40:18 AM PDT by dead
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To: freebilly
OK, "The Rookie" was more about Baseball.

I liked that one too.

64 posted on 04/11/2003 8:41:27 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (Again, protestors have NO RIGHT TO BE HEARD, only a freedom to speak)
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To: Joe Whitey
"but it does matter whether the reason has validity"...

Since when does a PRIVATE org have to defend it's reasons as valid to you me or anyone else??

"It makes Petroskey and the HOF look like poilitcal bullies"...

Oh no...not bullies. Please no don't beat up on the helpless actors who are nothing but a wing of the KGB in this country.
65 posted on 04/11/2003 8:43:00 AM PDT by Ga Rob (I'm not the cause of your problems.....you are!!)
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To: TomB
a memebership

My words, prexactly....

66 posted on 04/11/2003 8:43:17 AM PDT by freebilly (I think they've misunderestimated us....)
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To: Joe Whitey
"There was no validity to the disinvite, same as there was no validity here." I disagree......Mr. Petroskey decided he didn't want to hold a party with the Party POOPERS, Sarandon and Robbins. Whoever is holding the Party can do whatever they want!
67 posted on 04/11/2003 8:43:41 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Thank the Military for your freedom and security....and thank a Rich person for jobs.)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
And "Field of Dreams" was terrific....
68 posted on 04/11/2003 8:45:10 AM PDT by freebilly (I think they've misunderestimated us....)
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To: Joe Whitey
There was no validity to the disinvite, same as there was no validity here.

Nobody has to "justify" the cancellation of an invitation like this (in either case). People complained a lot about the Jennings/Keith incident, but there was nothing anyone could do because 99% of those who complained never watch Peter Jennings anyway.

The Hall of Fame had enough wisdom to look at other recent events (the boycott of French products, the steep decline in ratings at the Academy Awards, etc.) and realize that the last thing they needed was a "Dixie Chicks moment" that alienated a large segment of their potential visitors.

69 posted on 04/11/2003 8:45:56 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: freebilly
a memebership

My words, prexactly....

I just bought a membership for my son who has a birthday coming up, you can't beat it for 20 bucks. Hopefully I'll have some time to take him up there this summer.

70 posted on 04/11/2003 8:47:03 AM PDT by TomB
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To: Alberta's Child
If Major League Baseball can suspend John Rocker for comments that he made on his own time to a sports magazine reporter, then the Baseball Hall of Fame can do whatever the hell it wants with regard to Mr. Robbins.

EXACTLY

And add Fuzzy Zeller being dropped by KMART because of his remarks and Jimmy the Greek being dropped by the TV net work because of his remarks and the General Manager of the Dodgers for his remarks
71 posted on 04/11/2003 8:47:04 AM PDT by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: Ga Rob
They could have just cancelled it without comment.

Thus, giving a comment is free speach in itself. It's not free speach they want, UNOPPOSED "free" speach.

In their eyes, celebreties have the right to free speach. You have the responsibility to listen. If you have a disagreement with them, you don't have their rights.

Some are more equal than others.

72 posted on 04/11/2003 8:48:05 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (Again, protestors have NO RIGHT TO BE HEARD, only a freedom to speak)
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To: My Favorite Headache
How about "Damn Yankees?"
73 posted on 04/11/2003 8:48:46 AM PDT by Betteboop
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To: Alberta's Child
"Baseball isn't American anymore -- I'd say it's more "Latin American" than "American" these days. But the vast majority of visitors to the Hall of Fame are still American, and nobody with an IQ over 70 would even think of alienating them."

My Spanish teacher from Cuba would bristle to hear you say that ...her contention is that "Amercia" is all of North America, not just the USA, and that the USA has taken "over" the name "America" wrongly when it truely applies to Canada and Mexico as well...lol.

Baseball is still American....even with players from Cuba, Dominican Republic, Venequela, etc...its still American....its American ideals, and its American attitudes....

74 posted on 04/11/2003 8:50:11 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Catphish
The Hall of Fame is just excercizing their FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION. Just as Robbins chooses to say what he says, they also have the right to choose who they feature at an event. It just so happens that it is currently bad business to give this clown a microphone, The Hall of Fame is staying out of the business of politics by not giving him a forum. Kudos to the Hall of Fame!
75 posted on 04/11/2003 8:51:58 AM PDT by Great_Dame
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To: TomB
I'm all the way out here on the left coast, but my kids went to the HOF two years ago. I'm still jealous.
76 posted on 04/11/2003 8:54:04 AM PDT by freebilly (I think they've misunderestimated us....)
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To: Seattle
I wonder if he defended John Rocker's right to free speech when he was suspended without pay for a month?
77 posted on 04/11/2003 9:00:38 AM PDT by sharkhawk
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To: Seattle
By this sportswriter's logic, the US should have allowed TOKYO ROSE to periodically do a radio and TV show in America during WWII, you know, just so we can "all get along."

No freakin way. We should shun these spoiled movie stars until the war is over, and then, maybe then, we can listen to their rantings.
78 posted on 04/11/2003 9:01:38 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: Seattle
It's not censorship if you decide you don't want a couple of left-wing political weenies at your celebration of baseball.

Unfortunately, some time in the 1960s the leftists and the hippies fell in love with baseball. Field of Dreams and all that. Unlike football, baseball appears to be slow, zenlike, nonviolent, almost noncompetitive. The sort of thing you can enjoy while laid back and smoking weed.

Well, so far baseball has more or less survived its yuppie owners and its players' union, so maybe it can survive the leftist fans, too.
79 posted on 04/11/2003 9:04:12 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Tim Robbins and Michael Moore have freedom of speech. But no one is required to give them a microphone. If the Hall of Fame could reasonably expect Robbins to talk about Baseball, then they would probably let him come. But Robbins (and Moore) tend to politicize everything. So, if the Hall doesn't want the occasion politicized, they pull back their microphone.

It's their right.

100% correct. Perhaps the Hall of Fame doesn't want to become associated with the sort of looney-left pronouncements that spew from the likes of Mr. and Mrs. Sarandon.

The decision might've been made out of concern that Tim and Susan would spark something really ugly. Maybe even "Dixie Chicks ugly". Back in '91, Woody Harrelson had been invited to ride in a New Orleans Mardi Gras parade as the "celebrity guest". Then he went public with his feelings about Gulf War I and shortly thereafter found himself un-invited from the party. The people who had originally invited Woody just didn't want to deal with the liability issues, should Woody stop a brick or two with his head.

80 posted on 04/11/2003 9:04:56 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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