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Forget about Saddam; it's Robbins and Sarandon we must fight
The Seattle Times ^ | 4/11/03 | Steve Kelly

Posted on 04/11/2003 8:12:58 AM PDT by Seattle

The juxtaposition would be funny if it weren't so serious.

Scenes of joy in Baghdad were on the front pages of every newspaper in the country yesterday.

Iraq, a very literate country, was celebrating in the streets. The population was filled with the hope that maybe, just maybe, it could celebrate the freedoms that have been denied it for a generation.

Freedoms like the freedom of speech.

Meanwhile, on this nation's sports pages yesterday, baseball's Hall of Fame president, Dale Petroskey, was declaring that, because of the politics of actors Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins, the Hall was canceling its planned celebration of the 15th anniversary of the release of the baseball movie "Bull Durham."

Petroskey, who just happens to be a former assistant White House press secretary under Ronald Reagan, said in a letter to Sarandon and Robbins: "We believe your very public criticism of President Bush at this important — and sensitive — time in our nation's history helps undermine the U.S. position, which ultimately could put our troops in even more danger."

The decision is all bull and no Durham.

Petroskey said he didn't want Robbins politicizing the event, then he politicized it.

McCarthyism lives.

Does Petroskey think Iraqi soldiers were hunkered in their bunkers outside Basra telling each other, "Sarandon and Robbins are against this war. We must fight on."?

There is a saying that truth is the first casualty of war. Apparently, people like Petroskey believe free speech is the second casualty.

Imagine if Petroskey were the NBA commissioner. Dallas' Steve Nash, who has voiced his sensitive disagreements with the war, probably would be banned from the playoffs.

And Golden State's Adonal Foyal, maybe the smartest man in the NBA, would be suspended for having the audacity to criticize the U.S. government.

Aren't the freedoms Sarandon and Robbins exercise part of what the United States says it is trying to bring to Iraq?

If John Rocker still can pitch in the big leagues — I don't know if he can pitch anymore, but he certainly now has the right to try with Tampa Bay — then can't we celebrate the best baseball movie ever made, even if some find the politics of two of its stars offensive?

Petroskey's Hall is full of miscreants. If he saw the movie "Cobb," he might be inclined to pull down the bust of Ty Cobb the way that U.S. tank pulled down the statue of Saddam Hussein on Wednesday.

If Cobb is in the Hall of Fame, there should be room for Bull Durham.

The movie is such a perfect portrayal of life in baseball's bush leagues. Kevin Costner is the perfect embittered baseball lifer. Robbins' Nuke LaLoosh is like every wild prodigy who ever came into the game.

It's a smart movie that takes some sharp shots at the culture of sports.

It deserves this celebration. We deserve to see its stars and writer-director Ron Shelton and hear them talk about this movie 15 years later.

But Petroskey, a 21st-century Joe McCarthy (the former senator, not the former manager), has decided the beliefs of some of its stars are too volatile for the Hall.

This was supposed to be the celebration of a movie. It was about the art, not the politics, of the artists.

Maybe Petroskey never saw the movie. Maybe he was misinformed and was told that LaLoosh was named Weapons of Mass Destruction LaLoosh.

While Iraqis cautiously leave their houses and come back into the streets, believing maybe the worst of the war is over, Petroskey is fighting his own war against dissent. Maybe he should poll all living Hall of Fame members. Are they for or against this war? Are they Republicans or Democrats?

Maybe he should make all of them sign a loyalty oath.

"As an institution we stand behind our president and our troops," he said in his letter to Robbins and Sarandon.

So as they celebrate the hope of freedom in Baghdad, Dale Petroskey denies it in Cooperstown. It seems you're either with Petroskey or against him. And if you're against him, the doors to the Hall will be slammed in your face.

Steve Kelley: 206-464-2176 or skelley@seattletimes.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: celebrity; crybabies; hollywierd; hollywood; hollywoodenemyofusa; holyywood; robbins; sarandon; sedition; whiner
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To: dts32041
Actually the title of the movie is Pride of the Yankees.
21 posted on 04/11/2003 8:24:40 AM PDT by dts32041 (US EPWs clothed and Fed, Iraqi EPWs bullet to the head.)
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To: Seattle
McCarthyism lives.

McCarthy has been proven right time and time again. We should erect a monument to McCarthy in Washington D.C. and continue his sterling example of how to deal with the vermin that infests our nation.

22 posted on 04/11/2003 8:25:12 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Alberta's Child
You got that right, Baseball is American.

Susan and her live in are not American. They hate America. They love themselves, the love making money and they have smoked way too much pot.
23 posted on 04/11/2003 8:26:17 AM PDT by JFC
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To: Seattle
Whimper, whimper, sniff, sniff.

-Regards, T.
24 posted on 04/11/2003 8:26:41 AM PDT by T Lady (.Freed From the Dimocratic Shackles since 1992)
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To: Seattle
This victory in Iraq is causing alot of strange things to happen. I believe that this put to end the stain on our psyche that Vietnam caused. As much as the people of Iraq needed this decisive victory, we also eeded this decisive victory. We can now feel proud of our country, and shame those who don't. YAAAYYYY!!!!
25 posted on 04/11/2003 8:27:19 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: My Favorite Headache
The Natural, Bang the Drum Slowly, Pride of the Yankees, Field of Dreams...all better
26 posted on 04/11/2003 8:27:34 AM PDT by ewing
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To: Catphish
we have the same right they have, if we don't like their spewing vomit every time they open their mouth, we have the right to turn our backs on they vomit.
27 posted on 04/11/2003 8:27:51 AM PDT by JFC
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To: Seattle
Free speech does not guaranty the right to disseminate hate, lies and vitriol.
If Robbins and Sarandon can say anything that is valid and not unduly inflammatory, or even if they had a propensity to do so, nobody would be banning them from anything.
This is less to do with Free Speech and everything to do with Hate Speech.
28 posted on 04/11/2003 8:28:11 AM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool (Syria. Iran. North Korea. Decisions, decisions, decisions...)
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To: CanisRex
Adonal Foyle is a reasonably intelligent guy who repeats banal left-wing platitudes in media interviews - so dumb sportswriters think he is some kind of genius.
29 posted on 04/11/2003 8:28:19 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Seattle
Imagine if Petroskey were the NBA commissioner. Dallas' Steve Nash, who has voiced his sensitive disagreements with the war, probably would be banned from the playoffs.

--- Let me explain this ONE MORE TIME.
Petroskey is NOT PART OF THE GOVERNMENT.
He is NOT SUPPRESSING FREE SPEECH of Suzie Saranwrap or anyone else.
He is a PRIVATE CITIZEN, and head of a PRIVATE ORGANIZATION. He is therefore entitled to have a party, or to cancel a party AT HIS OWN DISCRETION.
He has NO AUTHORITY over Suzie Saranwrap and her speechifying, other than withdrawing a platform that is UNDER HIS OWN CONTROL.

Why do I have to explain this over, and over, and over, and over...

30 posted on 04/11/2003 8:28:26 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: CanisRex
Oooops, I forgot the last part of my previous post...

I always ask myself when it comes to world events...

"What exactly does Adonal Foyal think about this?"
31 posted on 04/11/2003 8:28:39 AM PDT by CanisRex
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
'The Rookie' with Dennis Quaid is also in my top 10 as well
32 posted on 04/11/2003 8:28:41 AM PDT by ewing
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To: JFC
Baseball isn't American anymore -- I'd say it's more "Latin American" than "American" these days. But the vast majority of visitors to the Hall of Fame are still American, and nobody with an IQ over 70 would even think of alienating them.
33 posted on 04/11/2003 8:29:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Catphish
Wherever you come down on the war or whatever your politics - banning an event celebrating a movie because of the actors? opinions is just absurd. It's the sort of thing the left perpetrates on college campuses. I thought conservatives had moved past that sort of thing.

Petroskey did not "ban" anything. He said "They're not using our money for this." If Sarandon and Robbins and their ilk care to hold to "15th Anniversary celebration of Bull Durham" in Cooperstown - and if they do, I guarantee you it will be a Bush-hate fest more than it is a talk about the movie - they can do it on their own time with their own funds.

34 posted on 04/11/2003 8:29:08 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Catphish
Wherever you come down on the war or whatever your politics - banning an event celebrating a movie because of the actors’ opinions is just absurd. It's the sort of thing the left perpetrates on college campuses. I thought conservatives had moved past that sort of thing.

We are all human. When Americans arer dying in battle we don't have to listen to their BS. They didn't "ban" the event, they simply cancelled it, and that IS their right, don't you get that? That is not like what happens on college campuses. Free speech doesn't exist anymore on those campuses, sad but true.

36 posted on 04/11/2003 8:29:24 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Seattle
What the left conveniently refuses to recognize is that, just as Sarandon and Robbins exercised their free speech, Petroskey exercises his. His organization has the right to invite or disinvite anyone it wants. It matters not whether the reason has any validity. Free speech, in fact, is alive and well. The exercise of my free speech includes telling my friends and the FR family that I won't give certain a-holes one more penny of my money. If Sarandon is in a movie, I don't go. I love how free speech works.
37 posted on 04/11/2003 8:29:38 AM PDT by doug from upland (Send Al Sharpton 5 bucks so he can wreak havoc in his party)
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To: Seattle
It's a darn shame when they have to listen to opinions that they don't want to hear...aaawwwwhhhh.

Hollyweird/NYC liberals have been in the Clinton's back pocket so long that they actually thought someone cared what they had to say. Reality is biting them in the arse.

38 posted on 04/11/2003 8:30:23 AM PDT by WellsFargo94
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Field of Dreams bump.

If you don't get choked up during James Earl Jones' "Baseball" speech near the end of the movie, then you ain't a baseball fan.

39 posted on 04/11/2003 8:31:19 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: Seattle
My reply to this ignorant mental midget.....

Mr. Kelley,

I'll make this brief since I am sure you will not acknowledge these facts as actual facts.

The 1st Amendment only guarantees that THE GOVERNMENT will not infringe on the Freedom of Speech. You can dispute that all you want, that does not make it incorrect. Also, Ms Sarandon and Mr. Robbins are able to speak as freely as they wish. I would like to know when their Free Speech rights have been denied to them, by the Government? Free Speech also comes with consequences, you say something you pay a price out here in the open market of the consumers ideas.

Like I said I'll be brief. I could sit here and type for days about inaccuracy of your column....but why bother.

Regards,
40 posted on 04/11/2003 8:32:02 AM PDT by Ga Rob (I'm not the cause of your problems.....you are!!)
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