But you told me that the next big step was pretending to be an extinct talking cat.
Posted on 04/11/2003 5:14:00 AM PDT by Asher
Genetic evidence links Jews to their ancient tribe
By Judy Siegel
JERUSALEM (November 20) - Genetic evidence continues to provide additional proof to the claims that the Jewish people are descended from a common ancient Israelite father: Despite being separated for over 1,000 years, Sephardi Jews of North African origin are genetically indistinguishable from their brethren from Iraq, according to The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
They also proved that Sephardi Jews are very close genetically to the Jews of Kurdistan, and only slight differences exist between these two groups and Ashkenazi Jews from Europe.
These conclusions are reached in an article published recently in the American Journal of Human Genetics and written by Prof. Ariella Oppenheim of the Hebrew University (HU) and Hadassah-University Hospital in Ein Kerem.
Others involved are German doctoral student Almut Nebel, Dr. Marina Faerman of HU, Dr. Dvora Filon of Hadassah-University Hospital, and other colleagues from Germany and India.
The researchers conducted blood tests of Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Kurdish Jews and examined their Y chromosomes, which are carried only by males. They then compared them with those of various Arab groups - Palestinians, Beduins, Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese - as well as to non-Arab populations from Transcaucasia - Turks, Armenians and Moslem Kurds.
The study is based on 526 Y chromosomes typed by the Israeli team and additional data on 1,321 individuals from 12 populations. The typing of the Jewish groups was performed at the National Genome Center at HU's Silberman Institute of Life Sciences.
The Fertile Crescent of the Middle East was one of the few centers in which the transition from hunting-gathering to permanent settlement and agriculture took place. Genetic studies suggest that migrating Neolithic farmers dispersed their technological innovations and domesticated animals from the Middle East towards Europe, North Africa and Southwest Asia.
Studies of Y chromosomes have become powerful tools for the investigation of the genetic history of males, since these chromosomes are transmitted from fathers to sons.
Surprisingly, the study shows a closer genetic affinity by Jews to the non-Jewish, non-Arab populations in the northern part of the Middle East than to Arabs. These findings are consistent with known cultural links that existed among populations in the Fertile Crescent in early history, and indicate that the Jews are direct descendants of the early Middle Eastern core populations, which later divided into distinct ethnic groups speaking different languages.
Previous investigations by the HU researchers suggested a common origin for Jewish and non-Jewish populations living in the Middle East. The current study refines and delineates that connection.
It is believed that the majority of today's Jews - not including converts and non-Jews with whom Jews intermarried - descended from the ancient Israelis that lived in the historic Land of Israel until the destruction of the Second Temple and their dispersal into the Diaspora.
The researchers say that a genetic analysis of the chromosomes of Jews from various countries show that there was practically no genetic intermixing between them and the host populations among which they were scattered during their dispersion - whether in Eastern Europe, Spain, Portugal or North Africa.
A particularly intriguing case illustrating this is that of the Kurdish Jews, said to be the descendants of the Ten Tribes of Israel who were exiled in 723 BCE. to the area known today as Kurdistan, located in Northern Iraq, Iran and Eastern Turkey. They continued to live there as a separate entity until their immigration to Israel in the 1950s. The Kurdish Jews of today show a much greater affinity to their fellow Jews elsewhere than to the Kurdish Moslems.
(Source: The Jerusalem Post Newspaper)
But you told me that the next big step was pretending to be an extinct talking cat.
He doesn't have to stake anything on that website... he isn't making any extraordinary claims about the data presented. He presented as an interesting website.
Yet more proof. Notice: Easter Island.
Coincidence? I think not.
More...
Mars...
Now that's lost.
Good one, Smiley Don.
Excuse me for butting in, but while you cite a few examples of word usage, where does it say JEWS are exclusively THE "chosen people of the Creator of the Universe...? That appears to be your point.
You make that assertion but again you can't support it. Opinions are like you know what's, everyone has one. Nothing exlusive about that.
Suggest you check out this helpful little site. Understanding the DEFINITIONS is vital to the discussion.
"Now tell us, just WHAT IS your agenda?""
British Israelism is a cultic doctrine tied in with neo-Nazism, Armstrongism, hate-for_Israelism and ignorant-white-boy-supremacism.
On top of that, I hate hate hate "Replacement Theology" which says that the church has replaced Israel. It is a cultic spawn from the pit of hell.
I do hope I've made myself clear.
I am not the one you originally asked the question "What is your agenda?", but I think that you may believe that anyone who believes that there are lost tribes believes in British Israelism. I do not believe in British Israelism but I do believe as the Bible clearly states that the Israelites from the Northern Kingdom were dispersed throughout all of the world. All the world includes the British Isles and by extension the USA etc.
British Israelism takes facts in the Bible and twists them to service their national and/or racist pride. All of the organizations you listed above also have the common denominator that they all would say that they are founded on Christianity, which obviously they are not. This does not mean that because they twist what being a Christian means that we thereby must give up being Christians because Christianity must be evil. The same thing can be said about some of the doctrines that they use that are correct but they drastically twist to fit in with their own schemes.
I hate the theology of Israel Replacement. I love the Jews and believe that they are God's chosen people. The Church has not replaced the Jews, but rather at the end of time Christ will convert the remnant of the Jews who are left after many of them as well as much of the whole world's population is destroyed during the tribulation period, also known as the time of Jacobs troubles. The Israelites will have preeminence in the world as citizens of Israel. All the promises made to Abraham and the fathers about their descendants being given the land of Israel will be fulfilled.
Most of the people of the "lost tribes" have dissipated into the world's population falling essentially into the category of gentile, most all of them not even knowing that they are actually descendants of Abraham. At the same time, for various reasons, a relatively few of the people from the ten tribes did remained in Judah, the Southern Kingdom, with the Jews.
The Southern Kingdom, known as the House of David, consists largely of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and their Levites. The Northern Kingdom, known as the House of Israel, consisted, before it was carried off by Assyria almost a hundred and forty years before Judah was carried away by Babylon, of the other tribes and their Levites. All that being said, I do believe that most of the members of the "ten lost tribes" are still out there dispersed throughout the whole world and have lost their identities as Israelites, but still are descendants of Abraham.
At the end of time The Father, who knows all things, who knows who are the true Israelites, will gather them from the four corners of the earth and many will become aware of the fact that they are actually Israelites for the first time. The Jews, who The LORD allowed to keep the knowledge of their true identity as His chosen people, are now also being gathered to Israel.
Some of the same tenants that those who believe in British Israelism believe are true and are in The Bible, but they have taken them into their false belief system to try to satisfy their need to feel better than others. Jews are the chosen people of God. Understanding that ten of the tribes largely have been temporarily lost and will be regathered at the end of time doesn't mean that The Church has replaced Israel. Nor does it mean that the British, i.e. white race, has preeminence's over all others and that the Jews are inferior. It does means that you or/and I could be a daughter or son of Abraham and not realize it. Knowing this should cause a greater love of Jews, not a hatred and also help us to understand that The LORD is keeping His promise to Abraham and the fathers concerning their seed and the land of Israel.
Realize that Satan is best at taking truth and turning it into a lie. He usually starts out with truth but simply ends up twisting it until it fits his evil schemes. This way he gets lies out and also discredits truth.
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Amos 9:9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as [corn] is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
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Hosea 1:6 And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And [God] said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away.
Hosea 1:7 But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen.
Hosea 1:8 Now when she had weaned Loruhamah, she conceived, and bare a son.
Hosea 1:9 Then said [God], Call his name Loammi: for ye [are] not my people, and I will not be your [God].
Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, [that] in the place where it was said unto them, Ye [are] not my people, [there] it shall be said unto them, [Ye are] the sons of the living God.
Hosea 1:11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great [shall be] the day of Jezreel.
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Zec 12:7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify [themselves] against Judah.
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Ezekeil 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
Ezekiel 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
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John 7:35 Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles?
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Hbr 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
“67 posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 12:55:45 PM by fishtank “
Wow, you must have been catching on your FR threads over the holidays.
Time flies!!!
That was eight years ago!!!!
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