***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 21 - LIVE THREAD***

Multiple ^ | April 9, 2003 | Various

[An.American.Expatriate]

Operation Iraqi Freedom

This thread is dedicated to the brave men and women of the

 Armed Forces of the United States of America.

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"Wish You Were Here"

For all the free people that still protest.
You're welcome. We protect you and you are protected by the best.
Your voice is strong and loud,
but who will fight for you? No one standing in your crowd.
We are your fathers, brothers, and sons,
wearing the boots and carrying guns.
We are the ones that leave all we own,
to make sure your future is carved in stone.
We are the ones who fight and die,
We might not be able to save the world, Well, at least we try.
We walked the paths to where we are at
and we want no choice other than that.
so when you rally your group to complain,
take a look in the back of your brain.
In order for that flag you love to fly
wars must be fought and young men must die.
We came here to fight for the ones we hold dear.
If that's not respected, we would rather stay here.
So please stop yelling, put down your signs,
and pray for those behind enemy lines.
When the conflict is over and all is well,
be thankful that we chose to go through hell.

Corporal Joshua Miles and all the boys from 3rd Battalion 2nd Marines,
Kuwait 3/9/2003

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Links to the past threads

Day 1	Day 8	Day 15
Day 2	Day 9	Day 16
Day 3	Day 10	Day 17
Day 4	Day 11	Day 18
Day 5	Day 12	Day 19
Day 6	Day 13	Day 20
Day 7	Day 14

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Mhking's live cam links 

Live Video/Audio Feeds: (If you can't reach a feed by clicking on it, make sure to try copying the address, and pasting it in the appropriate browser -- WMV=Windows Media Player; Real=Real Player/RealOne; MP3=WinAmp/Audion/other streaming MP3 player; QT=QuickTime) FR: Final Update: Streaming Video/Audio Links (Includes info & HTML/Javascript code on how to create your own multi-feeds page)
"Mother Of All War Websites" (Additional links to live audio/video feeds)
VirtualTuner.com - Showdown in Iraq
WWI-TV Portal (WorldWide Internet-TV Portal Site)
Abu Dhabi TV (Real - Arabic)
BBC/Baghdad Cam(Real)
BBC News 24 (Real - 56)
BBC News 24 (Real - BB)
CablePulse 24 - Toronto (WMV)
CBS/Baghdad Cam (Real)
CBC RadioOne - Toronto (QT)
CN8 Philadelphia (Real)
CNN+ (Spain) (WMV)
CNN Baghdad Cam (WMV)
CNN Radio (WMV)
CNN via KGW/Portland (Real - mostly down)
DW-TV Berlin (Real - German/English)
IraqiTV (Real)
IraqiTV (WMV - #1)
IraqiTV (WMV - #2)
IraqiTV (WMV - #3)
ITN News Channel - London (Real - Audio Only)
MSNBC/NBC (WMV/Feeds page)
MSNBC (WMV - Audio Only - Headlines & Breaking News)
MSNBC Bagdad Cam (WMV)
N-TV Berlin (Real - In German Where Available)
NTV Baghdad Cam (Real)
NWCN, Seattle/Portland (Real)
Reuters Feedroom (Real - Raw Video Feeds)
Sky News (56K - WMV/Copy/Paste)
Sky News (BB - WMV/Copy-Paste)
SNN6 Sarasota, FL (Real)
WSVN-TV/DT Miami (WMV - Fox Affiliate)

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Cboldt's Goody Bag

Baghdad City Maps

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/baghdad_nima_2003.jpg <-- 1.6 Mb
http://www.stripes.com/02/dec02/baghdad.pdf <-- 440 Kb

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Good Morning.

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Special thanks to Null and Void for keeping these threads running on the weekends, Mo1 for the screamer, the AdminMods for their tolerance, mhking for the video links, Ragtime Cowgirl for her Exclusive Live Transcription Service™, Fledermaus for his 15 minutes of fame, and, of course, Belly Girl...

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[GOPyouth]

Fox showing a torture jail.

[dsmtoday]

What is NTV bagcam showing now? Looks like the scene from the fight a couple days ago when those black-clad fayadeen were running along the river (one guy in his underwear)

[Tree of Liberty]

Yep, that'd be him.

[GOPyouth]

Thanks for those pics. I thought I saw that plane roll upside-down, but wasn't sure. Luckily the pilot made it out ok.

[fellowpatriot]

As far as the emails go, right or wrong, these people are just expressing their first amendment rights which is something else our founding fathers rightly preserved for us.

Which is what Shep did. He brought up comments from viewers and he exercised his right to speak and indirectly showed how ignorant they were to write such a comment.

And he has every right to do so because he is on American soil!

The point is, these reporters have placed themselves in a very precarious situation as there is a real war going on over there - it's not a hollywood production.

Have you ever wondered why he's still on the air?

No, I don't wonder. I think it might have to do with the fact that our troops are fighting a war at the moment and he's not at the top of their list - yet.

At this point there is a credibility problem. On one hand you have CNN/Fox/MSNBC/BBC/Al-Jazeera/etc. showing video footage of troops inside Hussein's palace and rolling down the streets. At the same time you have Baghdad Bob on tv saying "there are no troops here." This guts the credibility of the Iraqi government with their own people. Even if they don't have the other news outlets, they see the tanks in their city, and they see the ONLY governmental official saying it's not true.

Yes, there is definitely a credibility problem - for our side. The people who see The Baghdad Bob Show are not the ones living in Baghdad - and what they are seeing in addition to Baghdad Bob's daily report is the video showing their camera man or reporter getting blown away by one of our tanks.

Again, how does this help our side?

[Tree of Liberty]

It was an F-15E Strike Eagle, twin seater.

[bootyist-monk]

Looked like new footage. Humvees where the bad guys where yesterday.

[goldstategop]

I don't know but I hazard a guess any one whose family still doesn't have a gun pointed at their heads is hightailing it with them in their underwear out of Baghdad.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Humvees and the good guys! - on the other side of the river/

Yes, same place (shown by Lebonese TV on the hotel) as the loop they were playing before, and a little down from where the guys were running..

IN-car Nascar film now?

[bootyist-monk]

And now, driving video.

[GOPyouth]

Mine is all jacked up now. I'm getting footage of inside a car, but it's very jumpy.

[fellowpatriot]

Did Achmed Vila and his friends decide to get the heck out of Dodge?

[Timesink]

Is that the reporter Fox has shown some?

Yes. Fox has two Simons with British accents, so don't get them mixed up. Simon the Good is in Kuwait or Jordan and actually works for Fox. Simon the Bad is the one that looks like the world's worst Sam Waterston impersonator who's actually in Baghdad and works for Sky.

[this_ol_patriot]

Sky News: EU: UN must have a role in the political scheme in Iraq.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Roadblock!

[goldstategop]

In their wet dreams.

[cgk]

The credit for posting the pics on FR goes to freeper Diogenesis. In fact there is a whole series of that A-10 sequence here including some satisfying explosions(scroll down): GOTTA SEE THIS - War for Enduring Freedom 4/9/03

[thedugal]

Sky News: EU: UN must have a role in the political scheme in Iraq.

They already do, it's called "The Opposition Party"

[Tree of Liberty]

The EU's shooting themselves in the foot. The President has already said that wouldn't be the case. By forcing the point, they show themselves to be powerless when they don't get their way.

[AFPhys]

Oh... and add one more thing, too...

East Baghdad seems to be offering very little resistance to Marine advance, and in fact there is precious little evidence of Iraqi resistance anywhere today, it seems.