***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 21 - LIVE THREAD***

Multiple ^ | April 9, 2003 | Various

[GOPyouth]

Fox showing a torture jail.

[dsmtoday]

What is NTV bagcam showing now? Looks like the scene from the fight a couple days ago when those black-clad fayadeen were running along the river (one guy in his underwear)

[Tree of Liberty]

Yep, that'd be him.

[GOPyouth]

Thanks for those pics. I thought I saw that plane roll upside-down, but wasn't sure. Luckily the pilot made it out ok.

[fellowpatriot]

As far as the emails go, right or wrong, these people are just expressing their first amendment rights which is something else our founding fathers rightly preserved for us.

Which is what Shep did. He brought up comments from viewers and he exercised his right to speak and indirectly showed how ignorant they were to write such a comment.

And he has every right to do so because he is on American soil!

The point is, these reporters have placed themselves in a very precarious situation as there is a real war going on over there - it's not a hollywood production.

Have you ever wondered why he's still on the air?

No, I don't wonder. I think it might have to do with the fact that our troops are fighting a war at the moment and he's not at the top of their list - yet.

At this point there is a credibility problem. On one hand you have CNN/Fox/MSNBC/BBC/Al-Jazeera/etc. showing video footage of troops inside Hussein's palace and rolling down the streets. At the same time you have Baghdad Bob on tv saying "there are no troops here." This guts the credibility of the Iraqi government with their own people. Even if they don't have the other news outlets, they see the tanks in their city, and they see the ONLY governmental official saying it's not true.

Yes, there is definitely a credibility problem - for our side. The people who see The Baghdad Bob Show are not the ones living in Baghdad - and what they are seeing in addition to Baghdad Bob's daily report is the video showing their camera man or reporter getting blown away by one of our tanks.

Again, how does this help our side?

[Tree of Liberty]

It was an F-15E Strike Eagle, twin seater.

[bootyist-monk]

Looked like new footage. Humvees where the bad guys where yesterday.

[goldstategop]

I don't know but I hazard a guess any one whose family still doesn't have a gun pointed at their heads is hightailing it with them in their underwear out of Baghdad.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Humvees and the good guys! - on the other side of the river/

Yes, same place (shown by Lebonese TV on the hotel) as the loop they were playing before, and a little down from where the guys were running..

IN-car Nascar film now?

[bootyist-monk]

And now, driving video.

[GOPyouth]

Mine is all jacked up now. I'm getting footage of inside a car, but it's very jumpy.

[fellowpatriot]

Did Achmed Vila and his friends decide to get the heck out of Dodge?

[Timesink]

Is that the reporter Fox has shown some?

Yes. Fox has two Simons with British accents, so don't get them mixed up. Simon the Good is in Kuwait or Jordan and actually works for Fox. Simon the Bad is the one that looks like the world's worst Sam Waterston impersonator who's actually in Baghdad and works for Sky.

[this_ol_patriot]

Sky News: EU: UN must have a role in the political scheme in Iraq.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Roadblock!

[goldstategop]

In their wet dreams.

[cgk]

The credit for posting the pics on FR goes to freeper Diogenesis. In fact there is a whole series of that A-10 sequence here including some satisfying explosions(scroll down): GOTTA SEE THIS - War for Enduring Freedom 4/9/03

[thedugal]

Sky News: EU: UN must have a role in the political scheme in Iraq.

They already do, it's called "The Opposition Party"

[Tree of Liberty]

The EU's shooting themselves in the foot. The President has already said that wouldn't be the case. By forcing the point, they show themselves to be powerless when they don't get their way.

[AFPhys]

Oh... and add one more thing, too...

East Baghdad seems to be offering very little resistance to Marine advance, and in fact there is precious little evidence of Iraqi resistance anywhere today, it seems.