***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 21 - LIVE THREAD***

Multiple ^ | April 9, 2003 | Various

[An.American.Expatriate]

Operation Iraqi Freedom

This thread is dedicated to the brave men and women of the

 Armed Forces of the United States of America.

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"Wish You Were Here"

For all the free people that still protest.
You're welcome. We protect you and you are protected by the best.
Your voice is strong and loud,
but who will fight for you? No one standing in your crowd.
We are your fathers, brothers, and sons,
wearing the boots and carrying guns.
We are the ones that leave all we own,
to make sure your future is carved in stone.
We are the ones who fight and die,
We might not be able to save the world, Well, at least we try.
We walked the paths to where we are at
and we want no choice other than that.
so when you rally your group to complain,
take a look in the back of your brain.
In order for that flag you love to fly
wars must be fought and young men must die.
We came here to fight for the ones we hold dear.
If that's not respected, we would rather stay here.
So please stop yelling, put down your signs,
and pray for those behind enemy lines.
When the conflict is over and all is well,
be thankful that we chose to go through hell.

Corporal Joshua Miles and all the boys from 3rd Battalion 2nd Marines,
Kuwait 3/9/2003

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Links to the past threads

Day 1	Day 8	Day 15
Day 2	Day 9	Day 16
Day 3	Day 10	Day 17
Day 4	Day 11	Day 18
Day 5	Day 12	Day 19
Day 6	Day 13	Day 20
Day 7	Day 14

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Mhking's live cam links 

Live Video/Audio Feeds: (If you can't reach a feed by clicking on it, make sure to try copying the address, and pasting it in the appropriate browser -- WMV=Windows Media Player; Real=Real Player/RealOne; MP3=WinAmp/Audion/other streaming MP3 player; QT=QuickTime) FR: Final Update: Streaming Video/Audio Links (Includes info & HTML/Javascript code on how to create your own multi-feeds page)
"Mother Of All War Websites" (Additional links to live audio/video feeds)
VirtualTuner.com - Showdown in Iraq
WWI-TV Portal (WorldWide Internet-TV Portal Site)
Abu Dhabi TV (Real - Arabic)
BBC/Baghdad Cam(Real)
BBC News 24 (Real - 56)
BBC News 24 (Real - BB)
CablePulse 24 - Toronto (WMV)
CBS/Baghdad Cam (Real)
CBC RadioOne - Toronto (QT)
CN8 Philadelphia (Real)
CNN+ (Spain) (WMV)
CNN Baghdad Cam (WMV)
CNN Radio (WMV)
CNN via KGW/Portland (Real - mostly down)
DW-TV Berlin (Real - German/English)
IraqiTV (Real)
IraqiTV (WMV - #1)
IraqiTV (WMV - #2)
IraqiTV (WMV - #3)
ITN News Channel - London (Real - Audio Only)
MSNBC/NBC (WMV/Feeds page)
MSNBC (WMV - Audio Only - Headlines & Breaking News)
MSNBC Bagdad Cam (WMV)
N-TV Berlin (Real - In German Where Available)
NTV Baghdad Cam (Real)
NWCN, Seattle/Portland (Real)
Reuters Feedroom (Real - Raw Video Feeds)
Sky News (56K - WMV/Copy/Paste)
Sky News (BB - WMV/Copy-Paste)
SNN6 Sarasota, FL (Real)
WSVN-TV/DT Miami (WMV - Fox Affiliate)

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Cboldt's Goody Bag

Baghdad City Maps

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/baghdad_nima_2003.jpg <-- 1.6 Mb
http://www.stripes.com/02/dec02/baghdad.pdf <-- 440 Kb

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[TheLion]

Lots of people are now learning about propaganda. The very obvious Iraqi propaganda and the more subtle (not to us, of course) propaganda of our elitest media represented by CNNBCABCBS.

[Merdoug]

John Galt is making his speech on the radio near the end of the book. I think he's about thru.

[retrokitten]

O'Reilly said there are links on his site. Also, www.operationuplink.org is run by the VFW. They donate phone cards to the troops and vets.

[TheLion]

I would be very careful giving money to charities. Many will just pocket the money. I haven't seen one of these links.

[Wyatt's Torch]

though her anti-religious nature bothers me sometimes

It bothers me as well. There have been some very interesting threads here debating the feasibility of being both a religous person and an objectivist.

[LouisianaJoanof Arc]

Hi all. I can't believe all the messages here today and am not going to have time to read them all.

Just wanted to pass along a funny regarding Tommy Franks today. When the war first started, a retired army coworker (Desert Storm Vet)said to me that he had concerns about the war because Franks was weak and almost relieved from his duties during Desert Storm because of it.

I have been harassing him ever since but today I had the pleasure of telling him that "Frank's sure looks brave to me, driving through the middle of Baghdad and taking it over took guts, not to mention military brilliance."

He blushed and agreed. It made my day!

[oceanview]

Yes, you are correct, but there must be some honest charities out there doing this. Anyone have a link to the page listing these on the oreilly site, I can't find anything.

[retrokitten]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/889438/posts

[Wyatt's Torch]

You could have read the first 10 pages of the speech and skipped the last, what, 50 and gotten the jist. The end gets a little wierd but doesn't detract. Enjoy.

[ztiworoh]

Well, I think Rand goes to the extremes in her writing to make a point, for me, Ive found religion to be a VERY individual experience and one that has helped me to succeed, so I could assume it is objectivist in that sense; I am devoutly Catholic, but recent events have proven that the Church as an organization has its flaws, as does anyother group of humans, be they political, religious, or for other purposes.

Blindly following the group and forgetting the religion is quite possibly the worst thing a person can do for their spiritual life, as they begin to worship the men who run the earthly organization and not the faith behind that organization, so in that sense, it is possible to be a religious objectovist because my religion is of my personal choice and I follow an inner faith above any earthly group

[TheLion]

I would tend to trust the one's that O'Reilly is linking. He will probably make sure they follow-up!

[glock rocks]

that's my favorite book. it's a life changing eye opener for many.

that particular speech runs about 300 pages, i recall :o}

[TheExploited]

My handle is also from AS

[dogbyte12]

Just posted the latest "wisdom of Patrick Buchanan here.

This may shock some of you, but he is concerned about the jews advising President Bush.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Thank you, Jonathon!

If you're gonna post things like i love you mom on this day, we're going to have to bring back belly girl and poster boy to keep from crying again.

m-a, well done, mom. (^:

[Wyatt's Torch]

I could not have said it better and I wouldn't have said it any differently. You are wise beyond your years.

[retrokitten]

If you're gonna post things like i love you mom on this day, we're going to have to bring back belly girl and poster boy to keep from crying again.

Keep scrolling down...we make up for crying time with some raging hormones a little further down the page! LOL!

[retrokitten]

Oh that is sick......

LMAO!!

[Wyatt's Torch]

There are a bunch of AS screen names. Several versions of Galt, Francisco, Owen Kellog, and many others. Not too surprising given the "slant" of this forum.

[Wild Irish Rogue]

" I switched over to MSNBC for a moment--They had a BEAUTIFUL two minute tribute to the days events--not kidding, I started to cry!"

Has any network announced whether they are going to produce a video of the highlights of their embedded reporters? I imagine the troops would enjoy seeing some of their handiwork,once they are back with their families, showered and rested. I hope Fox News does this,with all or a portion of the proceeds, going to the families of those who gave their lives for this action.